Woj: HOU walks away from Asik trade table (pg9) #OmerMare

Scarface844 · Post #41 » by **Scarface844** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:02 pm

Knicks are trying to get him to, but sources are saying its a long shot. This may be why they have't traded for Lowry yet, in hopes they could get Asik for their first round pick and Shumpert.

Ari_Emanuel · Post #42 » by **Ari_Emanuel** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:03 pm

VinBaker6 wrote:That Boston defense is gonna be dirty. Rondo Bradley Green Sully and Asik. Damn

Yup. They're clearly gonna make a run at Kevin Love in the next few years too. Either with the other picks they have or with capspace when Love hits free agency. They never needed to tank.

COY0607 · Post #43 » by **COY0607** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:04 pm

Scarface844 wrote:Knicks are trying to get him to, but sources are saying its a long shot. This may be why they have't traded for Lowry yet, in hopes they could get Asik for their first round pick and Shumpert.

i dont think knicks have anything to match this celtics package

dTox · Post #44 » by **dTox** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:05 pm

dagger wrote:
lucky777s wrote:Market for Asik is weak because of that 15 mill balloon payment and he's mainly a defensive player.

If you have a PF that can play with Dwight you can get Asik cheap right now. BOS is taking advantage of that. Looks like they want to be the new Bulls. Don't be surprised if Thibs goes back to BOS next year if CHI blows things up.

I expect the first round pick to be one of the worst ones BOS has or heavily protected. HOU has no real leverage it seems. Although BOS knows how hard it is to find C's, they were looking all last year.

The market is also weak because Morey let out that there was a self-imposed Dec 19 deadline. That never helps your bargaining power. I know why they want a deal done by tomorrow, but you lose some leverage by putting yourself on the clock.

It could also have an opposite impact on a GM who is trigger happy, with the deadline approaching he may panic thinking Houston has an offer pending (which is why there was a deadline to begin with) and he ends up throwing in the farm.

IMAN5 · Post #45 » by **IMAN5** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:06 pm

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
IMAN5 wrote:
suntzuballin wrote:werent those guys 2 components of the magic team howard was on

Completely forgot, good point.

Although Bass came after Lee was already traded, both guys are familiar with Dwight.

Lee got the boot because he missed a massive alley-oop layup. Felt bad for him.

other than that one play though, he played pretty solid in the playoffs/finals in his rookie season.

Komodo · Post #46 » by **Komodo** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:06 pm

lucky777s wrote:Market for Asik is weak because of that 15 mill balloon payment and he's mainly a defensive player.

If you have a PF that can play with Dwight you can get Asik cheap right now. BOS is taking advantage of that. Looks like they want to be the new Bulls. Don't be surprised if Thibs goes back to BOS next year if CHI blows things up.

I expect the first round pick to be one of the worst ones BOS has or heavily protected. HOU has no real leverage it seems. Although BOS knows how hard it is to find C's, they were looking all last year.

Can we confirm this once and for all? I thought that was only if Chicago matched?

Post #47 » by **Schad** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:06 pm

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
Ok, so we're team #3. Would you trade Amir and Novak for that 2016 BKN pick, Lee and Bass in a flip from Houston? No 187 necessary.

Absolutely. That pick has serious upside, because the Nets could be an injury-prone, post-30 Deron, Brook Lopez, and a bunch of scrubs by that point.

BAMartian · Post #48 » by **BAMartian** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:07 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
Ok, so we're team #3. Would you trade Amir and Novak for that 2016 BKN pick, Lee and Bass in a flip from Houston? No 187 necessary.

Absolutely. That pick has serious upside, because the Nets could be an injury-prone, post-30 Deron, Brook Lopez, and a bunch of scrubs by that point.

Yeah seems like a no brainer to me

Scarface844 · Post #49 » by **Scarface844** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:07 pm

COY0607 wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:Knicks are trying to get him to, but sources are saying its a long shot. This may be why they have't traded for Lowry yet, in hopes they could get Asik for their first round pick and Shumpert.

i dont think knicks have anything to match this celtics package

Yeah no doubt. I'd look for Masai to make some moves once Asik is traded.

BAMartian · Post #50 » by **BAMartian** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:08 pm

Komodo wrote:
lucky777s wrote:Market for Asik is weak because of that 15 mill balloon payment and he's mainly a defensive player.

If you have a PF that can play with Dwight you can get Asik cheap right now. BOS is taking advantage of that. Looks like they want to be the new Bulls. Don't be surprised if Thibs goes back to BOS next year if CHI blows things up.

I expect the first round pick to be one of the worst ones BOS has or heavily protected. HOU has no real leverage it seems. Although BOS knows how hard it is to find C's, they were looking all last year.

Can we confirm this once and for all? I thought that was only if Chicago matched?

There's very little evidence to support his statement. As far as I can tell there *is* a market because lots of teams have been rumored in trade talks and I'm willing to bet that some teams are holding off on making other trades because of the possibility of landing Asik.

suntzuballin · Post #51 » by **suntzuballin** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:08 pm

is a 3rd team involed for lee why dont they keep him to back up harden and parson he solid player

Post #52 » by **Rhettmatic** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:16 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/413417180882300928[/tweet]

Every time I see Woj's goddamn avatar I'm hoping it's a Lowry trade.

#9 · Post #53 » by #9 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:16 pm

Someone should quote me on reporting monday that Rockets were interested in trading Asik to the Celtics for Bass.

kb24vskb8 · Post #54 » by **kb24vskb8** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:17 pm

What year is the first round?

Wo1verine · Post #55 » by **Wo1verine** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:18 pm

Asik would be a nice replacement for Val if we could ever trade him for a 2014 lottery pick.

Scarface844 · Post #56 » by **Scarface844** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:18 pm

#9 wrote:Someone should quote me on reporting monday that Rockets were interested in trading Asik to the Celtics for Bass.

You have any info on Lowry or any Raptors trades that might be imminent?

#9 · Post #57 » by #9 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:20 pm

Scarface844 wrote:
#9 wrote:Someone should quote me on reporting monday that Rockets were interested in trading Asik to the Celtics for Bass.

You have any info on Lowry or any Raptors trades that might be imminent?

No ironically enough, I have never posted on any Raptors rumors. How do I check my post history and quote myself anyways ?

Post #58 » by **Rhettmatic** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:20 pm

#9 wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:
#9 wrote:Someone should quote me on reporting monday that Rockets were interested in trading Asik to the Celtics for Bass.

You have any info on Lowry or any Raptors trades that might be imminent?

No ironically enough, I have never posted on any Raptors rumors. How do I check my post history and quote myself anyways ?

Here you go:

#9 wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
#9 wrote:Asik trade will be done by tomorrow night.

I broke the story on what the nets offered us for lowry

Is it a three teamer as originally rumored or just the Rox and Sixers?

Celts are the closest one. Jeff Green or Bass on the table.

Scarface844 · Post #59 » by **Scarface844** » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:21 pm

#9 wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:
#9 wrote:Someone should quote me on reporting monday that Rockets were interested in trading Asik to the Celtics for Bass.

You have any info on Lowry or any Raptors trades that might be imminent?

No ironically enough, I have never posted on any Raptors rumors. How do I check my post history and quote myself anyways ?

No clue, I just joined recently so I don't know how to check previous post history. To quote yourself I think you just press quote and copy and paste that into your reply in this thread.

#9 · Post #60 » by #9 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:23 pm

Scarface844 wrote:
#9 wrote:
Scarface844 wrote:
You have any info on Lowry or any Raptors trades that might be imminent?

No ironically enough, I have never posted on any Raptors rumors. How do I check my post history and quote myself anyways ?

No clue, I just joined recently so I don't know how to check previous post history. To quote yourself I think you just press quote and copy and paste that into your reply in this thread.

Yeah. I know about quoting, that was just one question though haha. Dec 12 and already 200 posts. Dang. I'm one of the oldest posters in here but rarely post