Salary based on actual performance

OhMyBosh · Post #1 » by **OhMyBosh** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:51 pm

Not sure if anyone ventured onto the reddit NBA page lately, but I thought this post was interesting enough to share here.

Here's a comparison of actual salary and salary based on performance (win shares):

(right click to open image in new window to see full chart)

It's worth nothing that all our top performers were paid less than what they should actually be earning, or in other words, overachievers. Last year, we didn't overpay anyone to get significant production from them. The toughest pill to swallow is Landry Fields, but we've been writing him off since day 1.

For the full list of 30 teams: http://imgur.com/a/pw5kb

protothe · Post #2 » by **protothe** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:57 pm

Poor Landry.

Worst part is, he must've got some money from Sony as well for that local Playstation Vita promotion they had on Raptors TV.

IMAN5 · Post #3 » by **IMAN5** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:05 pm

protothe wrote:Poor Landry.

Worst part is, he must've got some money from Sony as well for that local Playstation Vita promotion they had on Raptors TV.

Landry Fields probably lost Sony money. After seeing his commercials there was no way I was gonna get one.

Matty · Post #4 » by **Matty** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:10 pm

Love the value we're getting out of JV. Where are the haters again?

youngtea · Post #5 » by **youngtea** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:14 pm

Matty wrote:Love the value we're getting out of JV. Where are the haters again?

Who hated on JV? Get them. :starwars

OakleyDokely · Post #6 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:22 pm

Andrea Bargnani will be paying the Knicks to play this year.

J-Roc · Post #7 » by **J-Roc** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:27 pm

DJ Augustin or the Bulls owe us $1,267,000.

Raps in 4 · Post #8 » by **Raps in 4** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:28 pm

Looks like Lowry is still underpaid, even with his new contract.

protothe · Post #9 » by **protothe** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:32 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Andrea Bargnani will be paying the Knicks to play this year.

Still more valuable than Derrick "The Statue" Rose

Spacing · Post #10 » by **Spacing** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:35 pm

$70M and we don't have a superstar....

Still not bad... just hate paying bench players $6M+

Spacing · Post #11 » by **Spacing** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:45 pm

protothe wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Andrea Bargnani will be paying the Knicks to play this year.

Still more valuable than Derrick "The Statue" Rose

Derrick's great.... at playing in Team USA Mini Camps.

He's just not a regular season kinda guy.

daswunderboy · Post #12 » by **daswunderboy** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:52 pm

Kind of misleading. I mean, Landry is below his value by so much because we don't play him, plus he was hurt. This is a function of playing time and production. If you don't get playing time, you aren't going to produce.

Mind you, I'm not an advocate of playing Landry more, nor am I saying he deserves his contract.

protothe · Post #13 » by **protothe** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:52 pm

Spacing wrote:$70M and we don't have a superstar....

Still not bad... just hate paying bench players $6M+

I agree with you but we weren't in contention to sign a "superstar" this year, or any other year for that matter, until we show consistency.

In the meantime, nearly all of our players are very tradeable as we don't have any bad contracts. Even the ones that appear bad are expiring this year and can be used for teams wishing to dump salary.

daswunderboy · Post #14 » by **daswunderboy** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:53 pm

Spacing wrote:$70M and we don't have a superstar....

Still not bad... just hate paying bench players $6M+

Yeah, you must have to skimp on meals and entertainment when you shell out for those bench players.

...wait, you're just some guy on the internet who isn't responsible for player salaries? Weird. Could swear with your comment it personally effected you...

vaff87 · Post #15 » by **vaff87** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:53 pm

youngtea wrote:
Matty wrote:Love the value we're getting out of JV. Where are the haters again?

Who hated on JV? Get them.

MADD. Well, probably.

Steelo Green · Post #16 » by **Steelo Green** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:55 pm

Spacing wrote:
protothe wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Andrea Bargnani will be paying the Knicks to play this year.

Still more valuable than Derrick "The Statue" Rose

Derrick's great.... at playing in Team USA Mini Camps.

He's just not a regular season kinda guy.

It's hilarious reading predictions regarding Chicago. Obviously if Rose becomes MVP Rose, then Chicago will be a top team in the conference, but are people banking more on a guy who has pretty much not played in two years, and in the ten games he played last year was pretty bad and a ways away from being his old productive self, or banking on a team with two sophomores starting in the playoffs, a 24 year old all-star and a huge amount of depth who were a shot away from the semis?

Spacing · Post #17 » by **Spacing** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:57 pm

daswunderboy wrote:
Spacing wrote:$70M and we don't have a superstar....

Still not bad... just hate paying bench players $6M+

Yeah, you must have to skimp on meals and entertainment when you shell out for those bench players.

...wait, you're just some guy on the internet who isn't responsible for player salaries? Weird. Could swear with your comment it personally effected you...

lol what? Are you new to the term Salary Cap? or have any understanding of how NBA finance works?

Oh wait, you're just some guy on the Internet who probably lives in his mom's basement.

Spacing · Post #18 » by **Spacing** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:58 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:It's hilarious reading predictions regarding Chicago. Obviously if Rose becomes MVP Rose, then Chicago will be a top team in the conference, but are people banking more on a guy who has pretty much not played in two years, and in the ten games he played last year was pretty bad and a ways away from being his old productive self, or banking on a team with two sophomores starting in the playoffs, a 24 year old all-star and a huge amount of depth who were a shot away from the semis?

I'm actually one of those people that think Chicago got better by adding Gasol and even Rose at 50% is better than no rose at all

I just like poking fun at his absences.

JN · Post #19 » by JN » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:00 pm

Almost all of the negative value contracts are due to smaller negative contracts obtained to offset BC's larger mistakes (Bargnani, Gay). And of course Fields.

m83588333 · Post #20 » by **m83588333** » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:00 pm

Spacing wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:It's hilarious reading predictions regarding Chicago. Obviously if Rose becomes MVP Rose, then Chicago will be a top team in the conference, but are people banking more on a guy who has pretty much not played in two years, and in the ten games he played last year was pretty bad and a ways away from being his old productive self, or banking on a team with two sophomores starting in the playoffs, a 24 year old all-star and a huge amount of depth who were a shot away from the semis?

I'm actually one of those people that think Chicago got better by adding Gasol and even Rose at 50% is better than no rose at all

I just like poking fun at his absences.

Gasol is better than Boozer but not by much. Rose vs DJ is no contest but comeback Rose vs playing out of his mind DJ is a lot closer.