OT Derek Fisher: "Bargnani is 'a great basketball player"

[Stolen Identity]

Phil can effect the psyche of a player, he didn't have to be on the floor to do it.

Didn't work for Kwame Brown, who like Bargnani, was another #1 overall pick.

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

Rodman was one of the most hard working players the league has ever seen. Everything he did was hustle and it energized his teammates and the crowd. The coaches loved him for that.

Bargnani is nothing like Rodman whatsoever. It seems like an effort thing with him. A player needs to bring the effort night in and night out. The sooner the Knicks are done with Bargs, the better they will be. I honestly don't see many teams invested in him once he becomes a FA.

[samwana]

Bargnani probably has more talent than Rodman, but Rodman would eat Bargnani during warmups and Bargnani wouldn't even dare come into the game after that.

[UcanUwill]

I never thought Bargnani had poor work ethic. He just has phlegmatic reaction speed and inattentive concentration.

[JWiLL02]

Bargnani probably has more talent than Rodman, but Rodman would eat Bargnani during warmups and Bargnani wouldn't even dare come into the game after that.

Sure...if you don't consider rebounding a talent. Or defense.

I really think this is Bargnani's year though. He's what...30? Big men take longer to develop and he's a unique, true 7 footer. He needed a few extra years compared to someone like Marc Gasol. He's also 7'1, that extra inch accounts for a couple more development years.

I can see his prime lasting from 30-39 given that he doesn't rely on athleticism. Melo was smart to resign in time for Bargs' peak.

[Rapz]

Many here are in danger to eat crow this year...we'll see...

[Blast Tyrant]

Except Phil has never met someone with Caliper test score that was "off the charts." Remember this:

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

One of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen on here.

You mean the same Rodman who already had 2 titles prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in defensive win shares prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who was a 2 time defensive player of the year prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who All-NBA Defensive Team 7 times prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in rebounding 4 straight years (playing alongside David Robinson for part of that) prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in FG% prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who has the highest TRB% in NBA history by a WIDE margin?

I swear Rodman is so underrated by kids today. Watch Shaq's first game with the Lakers against the Bulls where Rodamn holds him to ZERO points throughout the 4th quarter and overtime. Nobody else could dream of doing that. Shaq had over 100 lbs on him, and 7-8 inches of height.

[Blast Tyrant]

Bargnani probably has more talent than Rodman, but Rodman would eat Bargnani during warmups and Bargnani wouldn't even dare come into the game after that.

Shut your mouth. You're saying the worst rebounder of all time is more talented than the best of all time? Wow this forum is going down hill fast.

[Indomitable]

Bargnani probably has more talent than Rodman, but Rodman would eat Bargnani during warmups and Bargnani wouldn't even dare come into the game after that.

Shut your mouth. You're saying the worst rebounder of all time is more talented than the best of all time? Wow this forum is going down hill fast.

Yeah aint this the truth

[DrCoach]

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

You're comparing one of the hardest working players to one of the seemingly laziest.

I am comparing him to one of the craziest

[DrCoach]

Phil can effect the psyche of a player, he didn't have to be on the floor to do it.

Didn't work for Kwame Brown, who like Bargnani, was another #1 overall pick.

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

Rodman was one of the most hard working players the league has ever seen. Everything he did was hustle and it energized his teammates and the crowd. The coaches loved him for that.

Bargnani is nothing like Rodman whatsoever. It seems like an effort thing with him. A player needs to bring the effort night in and night out. The sooner the Knicks are done with Bargs, the better they will be. I honestly don't see many teams invested in him once he becomes a FA.

Phil made the playoffs every year Kwame was on his team. No other team can say that about Brown

[DrCoach]

Except Phil has never met someone with Caliper test score that was "off the charts." Remember this:

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

One of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen on here.

You mean the same Rodman who already had 2 titles prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in defensive win shares prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who was a 2 time defensive player of the year prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who All-NBA Defensive Team 7 times prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in rebounding 4 straight years (playing alongside David Robinson for part of that) prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in FG% prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who has the highest TRB% in NBA history by a WIDE margin?

I swear Rodman is so underrated by kids today. Watch Shaq's first game with the Lakers against the Bulls where Rodamn holds him to ZERO points throughout the 4th quarter and overtime. Nobody else could dream of doing that. Shaq had over 100 lbs on him, and 7-8 inches of height.

You are so busy whining , you totally missed the point..Go Figure

[Gibby]

Derek looked at 30 gigs of data on pasta man.

[Blast Tyrant]

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

One of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen on here.

You mean the same Rodman who already had 2 titles prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in defensive win shares prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who was a 2 time defensive player of the year prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who All-NBA Defensive Team 7 times prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in rebounding 4 straight years (playing alongside David Robinson for part of that) prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who led the league in FG% prior to being coached by Jackson?
You mean the same Rodman who has the highest TRB% in NBA history by a WIDE margin?

I swear Rodman is so underrated by kids today. Watch Shaq's first game with the Lakers against the Bulls where Rodamn holds him to ZERO points throughout the 4th quarter and overtime. Nobody else could dream of doing that. Shaq had over 100 lbs on him, and 7-8 inches of height.

You are so busy whining , you totally missed the point..Go Figure

What was the point exactly? All I took from your post was a complete lack of understanding.

[DrCoach]

Phil Jackson said JR is alittle like Rodman...*Gasps*

http://dimemag.com/2014/09/phil-jackson ... is-rodman/

[grumpwalter]

Phil can effect the psyche of a player, he didn't have to be on the floor to do it.

Didn't work for Kwame Brown, who like Bargnani, was another #1 overall pick.

Phil coached this guy named Rodman to three titles

Rodman was one of the most hard working players the league has ever seen. Everything he did was hustle and it energized his teammates and the crowd. The coaches loved him for that.

Bargnani is nothing like Rodman whatsoever. It seems like an effort thing with him. A player needs to bring the effort night in and night out. The sooner the Knicks are done with Bargs, the better they will be. I honestly don't see many teams invested in him once he becomes a FA.

Phil made the playoffs every year Kwame was on his team. No other team can say that about Brown

it was more to do with Kobe than it was to do with Phil. Kobe had an MVP season and got robbed by Nash.

If Phil was coaching us during the BC era, he couldn't have done anything.

[ontnut]

Perhaps playing in a triangle system, staying healthy, and playing for a new contract (Bargnani will be an unrestricted free agent come July and is surely set for a massive pay decrease from his $11.5-million salary) will result in a career year for the big Italian, but that's a lot of speculation.

http://www.thescore.com/news/588648?utm ... um=twitter

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is he just trying to bring confidence to him, or is he just blind?

I don't really see how this system is supposed to help him. The triangle relies on having good court vision, off the ball movement, corner cuts and good team passing, things we all know Bargnani EXCELS at. It's going to be hilarious when Bargnani starts turning in circles and running on the spot, because he has no idea where he's supposed to be on the floor, and the ball is moving too fast for him to catchup.

[kevindurant1]

Phil Jackson is a troll man.

[youngtea]

It will be interesting to see if Phil can turn around the Knicks. The entire roster needs to be fixed, but a few key trades and they might make the playoffs and contend for the atlantic.

[DrCoach]

it was more to do with Kobe than it was to do with Phil. Kobe had an MVP season and got robbed by Nash.

If Phil was coaching us during the BC era, he couldn't have done anything.

You mean in SPITE of Kobe

Kobe is known to be a terrible teammate

Who do you think manages all those personalities?

[OvertimeNO]

I seen Grant Hill and Isiah predict the Knicks will make the playoffs but they have so many
bad defenders on that team I can't see it.

This exactly. The Knicks were 6th worst in the league in DRTG last year. Every single playoff team from the East, with the sole exception of Brooklyn, was in the upper half of the league. But yeah, sure, Bargnani will be Kukoc and Amar'e will be 20 again. Playoffs.