Is this going to be another historically bad east??

[vini_vidi_vici]

Updated last years total numbers were..

EvsW/WvsE/E h2h W%
166/284/36.8 W%

Right now were looking at..

18/37/32.7 W%

Yes its early, and usually I wouldnt make a thread like this, but there are only 4 teams with an above .500 record (TOR/CHI/MIL/MIA). The teams I thought (and boy was I wrong) who improved this offseason are the ones struggling and have the higher amount of games played vs the West.

BOS 0-4 (Okay maybe BOS hasnt improved much, but I thought with Rondo).
CLE 2-4
DET 1-5
CHA 1-6

Conversely, OKC is the only sub .500 team at 1-4, and there are 3 .500 teams (LAC/UTAH/MIN).

Now its only 12.2% of the total games played against each other (using last years numbers, 450 total game, vs 55 this year), but is this a trend? Do you think it can improve?? Or are we going to see an even worse outcome than last year??

[Steelo Green]

Who cares, as long as the Raptors are at the top of the hill come playoff time.

[Rejected]

I think the sixers are the only god awful teams. I think there are a lot of not great teams but its not like they appear to be tanking, they just arnt good enough to play .500 ball. There are more bad teams at the bottom of the west this year.

[OakleyDokely]

Eastank Conference

[Zeno]

It's going to be worse than last year. The only Western team that wouldn't make the playoffs in the East is the Lakers and I'm not sure because they're 2-0 against the East. OKC will get they're guys back and will have time to reach the 36? wins necessary to make it. If the salary cap is really about competitive balance than maybe there needs to be a sliding salary cap to make some of these Eastern teams more competitive in free agency. Or have a different set of rules for each conference so it isn't so easy to notice the imbalance like they do in baseball with the DH. Maybe East plays FIBA rules. West plays NBA current rules.

[K1NG]

A championship is a championship

[Ganan23]

I mean this says it all... EC FTW

[Albatross31]

Eastank Conference

Darn it, I guess we're coming in last in the Eastank Conference this year

[MoneyBall]

There are five teams currently above .500... you forgot the Wizards.

[youngtea]

I know for years as a fan most of us have been saying the east is weak and one day is it will turn around and the west will be weak. It hasn't happened yet and I don't think it will. The West has superiors owners, GMs and coaches in place. They have strong foundations to success.

[vini_vidi_vici]

There are five teams currently above .500... you forgot the Wizards.

Washington is 0-1 according to ESPN.

Lost to the Mavs last night.

[MoneyBall]

There are five teams currently above .500... you forgot the Wizards.

Washington is 0-1 according to ESPN.

Lost to the Mavs last night.

My bad, I thought you meant overall record, not just vs the west.

[COY0607]

Why do people even care how good or bad a conference is overall

It makes very little difference to my NBA experience


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[dTox]

Why do people even care how good or bad a conference is overall

It makes very little difference to my NBA experience


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As a fan of the NBA, not only the Raptors, I want competitive games. Especially when the Raps aren't playing, I would like to see 2 good teams go at it more often as possible

[TheSamMitchell]

No, looking at the standings, Philly is the only team that has a goal of tanking. Same thing in the West, most teams are trying to win right now.

[mrdressup]

The thing is this. You basically have the league split in two when it comes to post season accessibility and it creates two stark realities. At any given recent time you have had only one or two teams who are title contenders in the East (not necessarily so in the West), the second tier are actually making an solid effort to be competitive and make the playoffs WHITHIN their conferences. The pressures have not been the same for a while now, and they are not the same currently. It is those many years of Spurs and Lakers teams that have made the West teams better at getting better by sheer necessity. It creates a better understanding of what is needed.

I can almost assure you that if we were in the West management would have a totally different set of pressures on them and we would surely have a different record. We' d have to address things that we can get away with now, at the very least. I think you have to concede that necessity is the mother of invention. For one, in the East it's very easy to satisfy yourself with less because the 2nd round is reachable without blowing the ownership's bankroll. Organic growth really does appear like a sane option when everyone else is around you is doing it. Maybe that's a big part of keeping the East down.

East is the East. We have to determine if we are ready to try and raise ourselves to the level of winning the East and then the whole thing. Depending on what pressure we put on ourselves we will act differently. We can't really worry about how bad our neighbors are if we are intent on competing with the other side's best.

I could see the commissioner worrying about parity and such, but we need only to stay focused on the goal.

[cammac]

I hate going to the general board and listen to the cocky western teams and yesterday was hoping both Washington and even Cleveland would win. I was hoping that Raptors, Washington, Chicago and Cleveland would have records in the top 8 in both divisions.

Our record will be good and some of the Western teams aren't as good as there records Houston and some are not as good as projected. I still think the Eastern teams I listed can be in the top 8 or 9 in the League with SAS, Memphis, GS, Dallas & Portland. With all being over 500 against the west.

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[RapsAndJays21]

Don't care if we dominate a bad East. The Blue Jays tried to take advantage of a weak AL East two years ago, and couldn't accomplish anything either. I'm glad the Raptors can take advantage of what looks like weak competition. They will face their fare share of good teams down the line.

[vini_vidi_vici]

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Just posted in there.

Seems some are rational atleast.