Can the Raptors beat the Cavs in a 7 game series now? *Read Poll

[UneducatedFan86]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

[VinBaker6]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

Patterson is better than Frye, Norm over JR since he's been out a while.

Irrelevant though, they have LeBron.

[T-d0t]

even if you know they can't, never bet against your team! Raps in 4

[Psubs]

Side question for those who answer no: What was the point of making these trades if we still have no chance against Cleveland?

Ibaka will be retained. Tucker not sure. It keeps the window open for the next 4 seasons.

[Ipsofact0]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

I can't understand why anyone thinks Kyrie is better than Lowry.

Also LOL at love being better than Ibaka...love is utter trash

[bon]

Minus K Love I'd say chances are 30-40%. A fighter's chance

[Par36]

Votes no.

It's possible but still Cavs are the favorite unless the love injury remains through the playoffs.

[adhir]

I'm still not sure about what has happened over the last 6 weeks. These moves are all great, but is PPat returning really gonna get thsi team back to being the 2nd best team in the east? Or will we still struggle and loose to the Orlando's, Phoenix's of the world as we have been.

[dagger]

Side question for those who answer no: What was the point of making these trades if we still have no chance against Cleveland?

You keep adding to your asset base to get closer and closer. And the Ibaka deal certainly was done with next season as well as this season in mind.

[Steelo Green]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

I see our name suits you very aptly once again.

[UneducatedFan86]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

I can't understand why anyone thinks Kyrie is better than Lowry.

Also LOL at love being better than Ibaka...love is utter trash

Kyrie killed us in the playoffs last year. 24.2 pts on nearly 50% shooting (48.3%), 3.3 Rebs, 4.5 Ast, 1.2 Stls, .7 Blk. We didn't have an answer for him. Plus I think you're underrating Kyrie's overall game just because he plays with Lebron. Not saying that he would be able to lead his team to the Finals but with the right pieces, he could of lead a team to the playoffs. Edit: Forgot to say, I still think Lowry is the better franchise PG and the better PG for our team, but in the playoffs... things change for Lowry. Not always for the best.

Also... Love has been playing ridiculous this season. It's taken him some time to get adjusted to this role with the Cavs but I think it came together this year. It just sucks he got hurt.

2016-17: PTS TRB AST FG% FG3% FT% eFG% PER WS
Love 20 11.1 1.9 42.9 38.4 87.6 51.6 22 5.6
Ibaka 15.1 6.8 1.1 48.8 38.8 84.6 54.7 17.6 4.0

You can argue about defense but Love is also a rebounding machine and an amazing outlet passer. So it really helps the Cavs' transition game.

[UneducatedFan86]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

I see our name suits you very aptly once again.

I see that you still have nothing constructive to say . If you want to disagree with me. Fine. Do it. Do not try to take a stupid cheap shot at my username.

[Coconut]

Did LeBron die? If not, then no.

[VanWest82]

Side question for those who answer no: What was the point of making these trades if we still have no chance against Cleveland?

You keep adding to your asset base to get closer and closer. And the Ibaka deal certainly was done with next season as well as this season in mind.

I wouldn't read too much into Masai's statement about wanting to re-sign Ibaka. I'm sure he'd like to just as he wanted to bring Biyombo back. But the combination of our free agents (Lowry, Pat, Ibaka, Tucker) + our bloated cap situation + the fact that Lowry and Ibaka have the same agent makes the prospect both coming back extremely unlikely. Everyone on here claiming we can just trade away big contracts (JV, Carroll, etc.) for nothing in order to open up the required room is living in fantasy land; as are the fans who believe MLSE will pay well into eight figures in tax. And just because a team might have cap space that doesn't mean they want to use it on another team's leftovers (without being handsomely compensated).

[RBlazeLM]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

you trippin'

[Red_Claw]

I think that were one Lebron James injury away from being the best team in the east.

[RaptorNews]

Lebron is the greatest basketball player of the last twenty years

So no

[TackyRapsFan]

Referees will see to it that LeBron goes through. Always do.


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[Westside Gunn]

They will three the Raptors to death. Love, James, Korver, Frye, Irving, Smith, it just keeps going.

If Lowry is in his choke mode, you can forget about it. I'm still not convinced it won't be a Cavs Warriors finals

[Steelo Green]

Kyrie > Lowry
Korver << Demar
Lebron >>>> Carroll
Love > Ibaka
Thompson > Jonas

Bench:
Smith > Powell
Shumpert = Tucker
Frye > Patterson
Williams < Joseph (potentially)
Sanders >> Bebe/Poltel (potentially)

They still have us beat on paper; especially if they add Williams and Sanders.

I see our name suits you very aptly once again.

I see that you still have nothing constructive to say . If you want to disagree with me. Fine. Do it. Do not try to take a stupid cheap shot at my username.

Oh, I thought it was obvious that the compare a player method to rank teams against one another was one of the, if not the worst analysis in basketball.

A team could lose on every comparison but one and still be the much worse team for example if Lebron James is on the other side.