Arguments that dwayne casey is right for us
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We seem to always focus on the negative. but lets focus on positives. There was arguments that earth is flat and some points were very convincing. So please try to come up with with reasons why dwayne casey is alright for us and has a potential to win a championship with the right players.
Ill start.
He got us to the ECF and was the only coach who won against cavs in EC play off series.
Ill start.
He got us to the ECF and was the only coach who won against cavs in EC play off series.
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He has funny reactions that turn into great gifs once BrunoSkull does his thing.
Harold_and_Kumar wrote:What if the 10 incher was overrated and the 4 incher was too small for any playing time, but the 7 incher was a perfect fit for our roster and the 5 incher was good for specific situations, like backdoor cuts?
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- we're winning and he's our winningest coach
- he wants to be here
- he has ties to Vancouver / Seattle
- he knows how to work with MLSE. A skill many coaches have troubles with. Plus he has their support and they value his input
- he works well with the media
- he works with players who have had troubled pasts (Lowry, JJ, etc.)
- he is respected by his fellow coaches as a defensive guru (although he's never had a defensive personnel except for now)
- he wants to be here
- he has ties to Vancouver / Seattle
- he knows how to work with MLSE. A skill many coaches have troubles with. Plus he has their support and they value his input
- he works well with the media
- he works with players who have had troubled pasts (Lowry, JJ, etc.)
- he is respected by his fellow coaches as a defensive guru (although he's never had a defensive personnel except for now)
Ska needs to make a comeback.
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We have a team of mostly late 1st rounders, 2nd rounders. Casey was also not highly regarded. The rotation outside of JV is overachieving self made men. They are made for each other
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
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Winningest coach in Raptors history, he arguably helped turn Demar and Kyle into superstars, he's improved every single year he's been with us and when he has the right tools can put a very formidable defence together.
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He gets the team to play hard almost all the time. With the right combination of talented players and injury luck - a Casey coached team looks likely to consistently have strong regular seasons and be seeded high. That's something.
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We're 7th in dtrg since ibaka and tucker got here. I guess he is a better defensive coach with the right people around him. Still want him fired however.
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Keep positive,
Phil Jackson HOF for his Triangle Offense strategy
Cassey will get HOF for his Empty the Clip strategy
Phil Jackson HOF for his Triangle Offense strategy
Cassey will get HOF for his Empty the Clip strategy
"Sabonis should sit on Myles' shoulders and they would count as one player" - Dax_Webster
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Of course we want to stay with out captor - he treats us so well. Look at all this catfood we get to eat while locked in this cage! You don't know what the next guy will do, he might only feed us birdseed!
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I agree OP.
Look what he turned Lowry and Demar into. Hard working very improved players. Lowry was a headcase and fat before Toronto. DeMar no jumper. Perennial all-stars, potentially both top 20 players. Some of it is the player but a big factor is the motivation steadiness continuity expectations of the coach.
Look at Powell.
Look what he got out of Biz, what is Biz doing now?
He is a steady hand that preaches defence. He keeps roles and subs in check.
His all-star starting point guard is out right now. How would Wiz be without Wall? Celtics without Isaiah? Would you blame Brad Stevens and say he is a bad coach if IT went down and the Celtics were in a slump and the offence looked stagnant? Of course not. But this is Caseys fault. The guy is playing Joseph/Wright/VanFleet, and obviously defences are collapsing on DeMar cause they don't have Lowry to worry about. Both of those guys obviously aren't close to the smarts and 3pt shooting Lowry gives us.
Anyway. I don't mind Casey at all. We needed a trade and we happened to make it at a time KL went down. It sucks. Either Lowry gets back and is himself and we go on a run in the playoffs. Or he isn't himself and hopefully Lowry and Ibaka will be back at the start of next season to really challenge for the East.
If we have this same squad back next year and we don't go to the next level, that's the only way I see Masai making a coaching change. But for who? Would have to be for a playoff tested coach, cause we would be in win now mode in 2018. Any lack of success this post-season the excuse will be late mid-season trade combined with the obvious Lowry injury, team couldn't build chemistry. We still could make noise this post-season, but if we don't Casey deserves this healthy roster with Ibaka before making a HC change. He has gotten a lot out of the talent he has been given for many years, and now when we finally we add Ibaka, we lose Lowry. It's not on Casey at all.
Look what he turned Lowry and Demar into. Hard working very improved players. Lowry was a headcase and fat before Toronto. DeMar no jumper. Perennial all-stars, potentially both top 20 players. Some of it is the player but a big factor is the motivation steadiness continuity expectations of the coach.
Look at Powell.
Look what he got out of Biz, what is Biz doing now?
He is a steady hand that preaches defence. He keeps roles and subs in check.
His all-star starting point guard is out right now. How would Wiz be without Wall? Celtics without Isaiah? Would you blame Brad Stevens and say he is a bad coach if IT went down and the Celtics were in a slump and the offence looked stagnant? Of course not. But this is Caseys fault. The guy is playing Joseph/Wright/VanFleet, and obviously defences are collapsing on DeMar cause they don't have Lowry to worry about. Both of those guys obviously aren't close to the smarts and 3pt shooting Lowry gives us.
Anyway. I don't mind Casey at all. We needed a trade and we happened to make it at a time KL went down. It sucks. Either Lowry gets back and is himself and we go on a run in the playoffs. Or he isn't himself and hopefully Lowry and Ibaka will be back at the start of next season to really challenge for the East.
If we have this same squad back next year and we don't go to the next level, that's the only way I see Masai making a coaching change. But for who? Would have to be for a playoff tested coach, cause we would be in win now mode in 2018. Any lack of success this post-season the excuse will be late mid-season trade combined with the obvious Lowry injury, team couldn't build chemistry. We still could make noise this post-season, but if we don't Casey deserves this healthy roster with Ibaka before making a HC change. He has gotten a lot out of the talent he has been given for many years, and now when we finally we add Ibaka, we lose Lowry. It's not on Casey at all.
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He's as good a coach as Phil Jackson is a GM.
Everybody is losing their freaking minds. Nutbars and wingnuts have infested this forum. We've become a public lavatory without cleaning staff.
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alienchild wrote:He's as good a coach as Phil Jackson is a GM.
Yikes i know yall hate casey but this is overboard
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Warrior fans are turning on kerr already. If you guys think there's some perfect coach out there that'll do everything armchair gms want you're in for a huge reality check
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Courtside wrote:Of course we want to stay with out captor - he treats us so well. Look at all this catfood we get to eat while locked in this cage! You don't know what the next guy will do, he might only feed us birdseed!
Stockholm really is lovely this time of year.
Anyway, IF Lowry comes back strong this season, all arguments will be settled by the end of the playoff run.
But surely, a good offensively-minded assistant coach could encourage more ball movement (and with it, more off the ball movement). It really is embarrassing to be looking to score ALL our points off of isos or in transition. Chris Webber is looking smarter and smarter (and maybe better and better as a potential coach) the longer KL is out.
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alienchild wrote:He's as good a coach as Phil Jackson is a GM.
Essentially the fans on RealGM hate him, but hes actually doing a decent job with what he has
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i don't think coaching makes that great a difference in the nba, especially day to day during the season and even more especially in game adjustments. that stuff gets smoothed out over time, sometimes you're lucky, other times it doesn't break your way. over a few seasons worth of games, talented teams will be good and talentless teams bad. stylistic choices do matter of course, eg how fred hoiberg is a bad nba coach working with a badly constructed roster moving in the wrong direction
but if i was managing a team i wouldn't want to live or die by a small advantage in fourth q execution or great sub patterns from a virtuoso coach, i would want to see the gradual construction of a program like the jazz had under sloan or the spurs have under pop and buford that can repeatedly produce solid players out of prospects and get the most out of a given guy's talents. i mean even pop frequently says he does 90% of his work before gameday. it's really important to have a strong level of player buy-in
casey has done that in his tenure so far. if you can see a coach who can slot in without disrupting the organization's flow while being a better in game coach ok, fire him. the jackson -> kerr transition was a wild success. but kerr had a vision when he was managing the suns, and he helped put it in place better as coach in gs. but upending the whole program without a clear upgrade or a strong unifying vision eeeeh i dunno
but if i was managing a team i wouldn't want to live or die by a small advantage in fourth q execution or great sub patterns from a virtuoso coach, i would want to see the gradual construction of a program like the jazz had under sloan or the spurs have under pop and buford that can repeatedly produce solid players out of prospects and get the most out of a given guy's talents. i mean even pop frequently says he does 90% of his work before gameday. it's really important to have a strong level of player buy-in
casey has done that in his tenure so far. if you can see a coach who can slot in without disrupting the organization's flow while being a better in game coach ok, fire him. the jackson -> kerr transition was a wild success. but kerr had a vision when he was managing the suns, and he helped put it in place better as coach in gs. but upending the whole program without a clear upgrade or a strong unifying vision eeeeh i dunno
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Casey is like anyone on the roster. If there's a clear upgrade available, you make the change. But you can't do what Chi did when they let go of an established coach like Thibs and hired someone inferior, because he was the "hot" new guy.
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I've compiled a list of my arguments
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