Fairview4Life wrote:Scase wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:
No problem. Keep arguing about the meaning of the word "tanking". It's definitely going to get resolved.
No worries, keep chiming in with useless posts. That's definitely going to win people over to your side.
We went 16-25 with Siakam for a .390 winning percentage. Which for a whole season is 32-50.
We went 5-11 after he was traded up until barnes was injured, for a .312 winning percentage. Which for a season is 26-56.
Wow such a dramatic dip.
I'm sorry, I am not exactly sure what point you're trying to make. The team was bad, but didn't want to be, and then they traded their best players and got worse...which is not tanking?
Does it have to come from the Process region of Philadelphia to count? And why is this an important hill for everyone to die on?
The team got
marginally worse.This is what you seem to be missing. The team didn't bottom out and be horrendous going for as good as a pick as possible. They traded for players in their 4/5th years to be the core moving forward, not rookies/prospects or high picks. I never stated it was a hill to die on, you felt the need to be antagonistic about the definition of the word tank.
billy_hoyle wrote:Scase wrote:Fairview4Life wrote:
No problem. Keep arguing about the meaning of the word "tanking". It's definitely going to get resolved.
No worries, keep chiming in with useless posts. That's definitely going to win people over to your side.
We went 16-25 with Siakam for a .390 winning percentage. Which for a whole season is 32-50.
We went 5-11 after he was traded up until barnes was injured, for a .312 winning percentage. Which for a season is 26-56.
Wow such a dramatic dip.
I'm not really understanding the argument. Is Memphis tanking this season?
1. We've clearly held guys out, significantly lowering our chances to win, since the trades.
2. The trades themselves completely neutered our ability to withstand a Barnes injury. Why is that not part of the tanking calculus? We had 3 very good forwards. We traded two, getting no forwards back in return, resulting in a lineup so thin, that an injury makes us the worst team in the league... That's tanking. Again is Memphis tanking?
Are we expecting to get guys back healthy, and try and push for the playoffs as soon as next season? Ya. I would think so. That doesn't mean they aren't tanking right now.
We're overtly tanking now, since the Barnes/Jak injuries. Prior to that you could easily argue it's a retool.
The trades didn't neuter the ability to withstand anything. We were at a .390 winning percentage with the entire lineup prior to the trades. Take Barnes out of that lineup and the wins crater, take Barnes out of this one, and they crater. It's the same thing. Bad team before, marginally worse team now.
Memphis lost damn near their entire team to injuries, they are just bad due to that. They definitely have leaned into it more as of late with some dubious scratches. We only held people out since the major injuries, if no injuries occurred, we'd be playing a full starting lineup as we did right before the injuries.
We don't have a horrendous roster, we have one that is good enough to eek out enough wins to keep out of the absolute bottom of the league.
Tanking is about
intent, half a season of bad basketball is not tanking,
TO ME, it's bad basketball.