ArthurVandelay wrote:Scase wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:
You’re not having a conversation here. You pretend to be objective and open minded and claim you could be wrong, but then definitely state how another person is totally wrong and Agbaji is done yet you’ve ignored things I’ve already stated numerous times about what Agbaji needs to do to be an effective player. Your shooting stats lifted from basketball reference only confirm my previously stated opinions of what he needs to do and what the coaches need to do to ensure he is utilized to his strengths.
This is mind boggling.
I'm simply providing context to what you said, I don't see how that is stating that anything is "done".
You said he has hit 45% of his corner threes, and I provided the context of where and how he hit them. How exactly is that NOT objective, like it is a literal fact that he is only shooting well from a single place on the court.
How is raising a counter to your point not a conversation? I'm actually confused here. I never discounted what you said about the work the coaches need to do, in my own post above I said him playing outside of his game is something I hope the coaching staff can reign in.
But if you're going to use a blanket statement and say a player shoots 45% from the corner, why is it an issue for me to point out the specific details of said claim?
As of now, he offers good shooting from a singular area on the court, and good defence. I never said he's worthless, I'm being realistic. Like damn man, if you can't handle someone pointing out base level stats of a player without getting offended, I don't know what to say here.
I'm clearly stating that he CAN get better, but based on his perceived potential, it's not likely that he becomes a lights out 45% shooter from both corners of the court and a lockdown defender. How is this a controversial statement?
You can't claim it's not a conversation, just because I provided additional context to a statement. Your response here is the only thing that is mind boggling.
You’re condescending. You don’t think I know the number of corner 3s and total attempts he’s taken?
Guess what? He’s elite from one corner and a little below average from the other. Put together he hits 45% from the corners in Utah.
The conclusions you draw from these stats and your statements put forth as definitive gospel is what’s mind boggling, especially when taking a look at your post history, as others did yesterday, shows a poster who knows about as much as the rest of us.
You don’t like Masai, I get it.
You don’t like anything he’s done the last 4 years outside Barnes, I get it.
You don’t like trading 28/29th pick for 2 rotation pieces, I get it.
You don’t think Ochai has an NBA future, I get it.
Personally I haven’t written his future and am hopeful to watch him grow. I see his positives and am aware of his shortcomings. No one knows what’s going to happen. If he sticks to the corners, cutting, and defense that is a valuable NBA rotational player….but you do you man, clutch your pearls, stand on your soap box and continue telling everyone about the lost opportunity with the 28/29 pick.
Got it, I'm condescending for pointing out stats.
You don’t think I know the number of corner 3s and total attempts he’s taken?
Well since you want to be combative about something. No, I don't think you do. Precisely because he's shooting 40% from the corner this season and 43% for his career, not the claimed 45%. So if you're going to get uppity about someone bringing some basic stats to the conversation, maybe get the stats you are quoting to be right first. Stating
correct stats is not condescending.
I have no issue with Ochai, I quite literally have said multiple times I expect his likely outcome to be a guy 8-10 off the bench. That is what most people would clearly classify as an NBA career.
If you want to keep talking about ifs, be my guest, just don't get all pissy when someone talks about the opposite ifs, that are grounded in realism and not blind hope.
If you can't take other peoples opinions, then don't comment on the boards, or block/ignore. You give me **** as if I'm treating my opinion as gospel, and then in the same breath turn around and say that I have to respect your opinion? Nice and hypocritical.
