PG: 15 more games left

[YogurtProducer]

As a Magic fan, I am glad that the Raptors chose Barnes over Wagner and Suggs.

Looks like a win win.

Never a win when you get the worse player. Magic would have a brighter future if they had Scottie instead of either of those players.

Suggs will have a solid career but his upside is quite limited.

I am a guest here and am not here to argue,

I like Wagner and Suggs fit with Paolo and with Coach M. Would not change a thing.

Pretty foolish. Barnes is Suggs but taller and just overall better in every aspect.

[greekman]

when the team needed him trent didn't care. when the games mean nothing and his contract is coming up he plays like an all star. would you re sign him or let the cap space grow ?

[Los_29]

As a Magic fan, I am glad that the Raptors chose Barnes over Wagner and Suggs.

Looks like a win win.

Never a win when you get the worse player. Magic would have a brighter future if they had Scottie instead of either of those players.

Suggs will have a solid career but his upside is quite limited.

I am a guest here and am not here to argue,

I like Wagner and Suggs fit with Paolo and with Coach M. Would not change a thing.

I’m not looking to argue either. That’s fine you think they are better fits, I would agree with you. I thought you meant that Suggs and Franz were better players than Scottie.

At the end of the day, Weltman would much rather have Scottie on his team than either of those two guys. He could worry about getting the right pieces later. A Banchero/Suggs/Franz core will only go so far.

[Harry Palmer]

Never a win when you get the worse player. Magic would have a brighter future if they had Scottie instead of either of those players.

Suggs will have a solid career but his upside is quite limited.

I am a guest here and am not here to argue,

I like Wagner and Suggs fit with Paolo and with Coach M. Would not change a thing.

Pretty foolish. Barnes is Suggs but taller and just overall better in every aspect.

Guys, he’s being gracious.

Not even asking you to reply in kind, but maybe at the very least just let him be gracious?

[Los_29]

when the team needed him trent didn't care. when the games mean nothing and his contract is coming up he plays like an all star. would you re sign him or let the cap space grow ?

He’s the same guy but now he’s just getting far more minutes on a depleted roster.

GTJ could’ve been a free agent last year and everyone thought he was going to stat pad because of it. That turned out to be false. Not to mention no team is going to look at these stretch of games and give him a big contract. These are all meaningless games. Teams know what GTJ brings at this point.

[MiamiSPX]

15 games till OG is back on the raps

You guys have to let it go man.....

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Ochai's averaging 5.7 ppg on 23% shooting from three in a starter's role.

He's the tank commander.

[YogurtProducer]

when the team needed him trent didn't care. when the games mean nothing and his contract is coming up he plays like an all star. would you re sign him or let the cap space grow ?

He’s the same guy but now he’s just getting far more minutes on a depleted roster.

GTJ could’ve been a free agent last year and everyone thought he was going to stat pad because of it. That turned out to be false. Not to mention no team is going to look at these stretch of games and give him a big contract. These are all meaningless games. Teams know what GTJ brings at this point.

And I think a lot of people are getting caught up in the fact he had a horrible start to the year. He has been shooting like 43% from 3 sine January

[sbsat]

Never a win when you get the worse player. Magic would have a brighter future if they had Scottie instead of either of those players.

Suggs will have a solid career but his upside is quite limited.

I am a guest here and am not here to argue,

I like Wagner and Suggs fit with Paolo and with Coach M. Would not change a thing.

I’m not looking to argue either. That’s fine you think they are better fits, I would agree with you. I thought you meant that Suggs and Franz were better players than Scottie.

At the end of the day, Weltman would much rather have Scottie on his team than either of those two guys. He could worry about getting the right pieces later. A Banchero/Suggs/Franz core will only go so far.

The magic are not nearly potent enough offensively to do major damage. They will have to pivot a bit but they are close!

[ItsDanger]

At least they've been competitive in many games. The roster strategy still seems to be lacking in vision.

[Los_29]

I am a guest here and am not here to argue,

I like Wagner and Suggs fit with Paolo and with Coach M. Would not change a thing.

I’m not looking to argue either. That’s fine you think they are better fits, I would agree with you. I thought you meant that Suggs and Franz were better players than Scottie.

At the end of the day, Weltman would much rather have Scottie on his team than either of those two guys. He could worry about getting the right pieces later. A Banchero/Suggs/Franz core will only go so far.

The magic are not nearly potent enough offensively to do major damage. They will have to pivot a bit but they are close!

Agreed. Still lacking top end talent which is ultimately what you need to win in this league. They have good young players and all of their picks (and maybe some additional ones) so they will have the pieces to upgrade in the future.

[Kingsway_fan]

when the team needed him trent didn't care. when the games mean nothing and his contract is coming up he plays like an all star. would you re sign him or let the cap space grow ?

He’s the same guy but now he’s just getting far more minutes on a depleted roster.

GTJ could’ve been a free agent last year and everyone thought he was going to stat pad because of it. That turned out to be false. Not to mention no team is going to look at these stretch of games and give him a big contract. These are all meaningless games. Teams know what GTJ brings at this point.

And I think a lot of people are getting caught up in the fact he had a horrible start to the year. He has been shooting like 43% from 3 sine January

Hes trash. One great game in 10... let him expire.

[MiamiSPX]

They've been in most of these losses but I do think the wheels are going to completely fall off and the 20-30 point losses are coming.

[Los_29]

He’s the same guy but now he’s just getting far more minutes on a depleted roster.

GTJ could’ve been a free agent last year and everyone thought he was going to stat pad because of it. That turned out to be false. Not to mention no team is going to look at these stretch of games and give him a big contract. These are all meaningless games. Teams know what GTJ brings at this point.

And I think a lot of people are getting caught up in the fact he had a horrible start to the year. He has been shooting like 43% from 3 sine January

Hes trash. One great game in 10... let him expire.

Definitely had more than one great game in his last 10. But anyway, great insight. Thanks for your contribution.

[YogurtProducer]

He’s the same guy but now he’s just getting far more minutes on a depleted roster.

GTJ could’ve been a free agent last year and everyone thought he was going to stat pad because of it. That turned out to be false. Not to mention no team is going to look at these stretch of games and give him a big contract. These are all meaningless games. Teams know what GTJ brings at this point.

And I think a lot of people are getting caught up in the fact he had a horrible start to the year. He has been shooting like 43% from 3 sine January

Hes trash. One great game in 10... let him expire.

13.7ppg on 43% from 3 and 58TS% in the new year but hey... this team does not need shooting.

[TorontoBarneys]

My stance on GTJ remains largely the same: bringing him back really depends on what you can get him back for.

$20m/per is still steep I think, but I'd bring him back for $15m/per. I think he's similar or slightly better impact compared to Olynyk, so warrants that kind of money (or slightly better).

[ontnut]

And I think a lot of people are getting caught up in the fact he had a horrible start to the year. He has been shooting like 43% from 3 sine January

Hes trash. One great game in 10... let him expire.

13.7ppg on 43% from 3 and 58TS% in the new year but hey... this team does not need shooting.

As long as he's paid as a 3pt specialist and his role is made clear to him, I'm fine with bringing him back. I don't want to be paying him for any kind of "potential" at this point. Give him the McDermott contract at best. 3 years $41m. The McD contract was bad at the time, but with the cap going up, that might be fair value these days, plus it's easily tradeable (see: Brown, Bruce).

[YogurtProducer]

My stance on GTJ remains largely the same: bringing him back really depends on what you can get him back for.

$20m/per is still steep I think, but I'd bring him back for $15m/per. I think he's similar or slightly better impact compared to Olynyk, so warrants that kind of money (or slightly better).

I for one want to see a IQ/GTJ/Dick/Barnes/Olynyk lineup just to see how Barnes looks with 4 great-elite shooters around him

[rapsincr]

the problem with GTJ is much like boucher, he doesnt do enough things within the system to be worth his next contract here imo. if he just stuck to shooting threes, moving the ball more, and trying on defense(like he has recently) i would be ok bringing him back, but the guy believes he can do more than he actually can and hurts us more than he helps us. the other issue is you cant bring him off the bench because he legit stinks in that role so you have to start him and i dont believe hes a starter on a team that is actually serious about winning.

[2019nbachamps]

GTJ doesn’t contribute to winning. If he doesn’t accept our low ball then let him walk. There is no market for him. He’s probably going to bounce around the league next.