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JVL vs Ramsey

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JVL or Ramsey?

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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#41 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:08 pm

Sure, let's waste another year figuring it out.
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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#42 » by Duffman100 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:44 pm

Sure let’s complain about not finding untapped potential and diamonds in the rough. But then whine when we acquire people with a raw and intriguing skill base.
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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#43 » by onions17 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:01 am

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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#44 » by bluerap23 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:37 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:It's his size too, it's not just the shot. He's a decent defender at SG, but he's too small for a SF. He's average against bigger SF's and most are 6'7"-6'9". He's generously listed at 6'5". He's not an OG replacement on either end.

So, then it becomes do you see him at SG or PG. Those are more natural positions for his size. Maybe slide him to guard and have him stop shooting.


What does “generpusly listed” even mean? I need a new argument so I devalue legitimate combine measurements?

With shoes he’s listed at 6’5 75. So nearly 6’6 with a 6’10 wingspan. That’s enough size to guard 1-3. Maybe small ball 4.

Nobody is replacing OG. But Ochai can be a solid rotation player. He guarded Shai well and defend Banchero well in the first game we played them.

It means he's a SG, not a SF. 6'5" makes him not really that special as a SF. He got torched by Orlando, we didn't see the same game.

He guards down, not up. I have a hard time telling the difference between him and Ramsey, size wise tbh

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Man your argument keeps getting weirder. You are taking one of his best attributes and somehow trying to turn it into a weakness. The main reason he is viewed as having potential is because of his physical attributes and his ability to defend. The only question mark is whether he can become a league average 3pt shooter.
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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#45 » by Duffman100 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:41 am

bluerap23 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
What does “generpusly listed” even mean? I need a new argument so I devalue legitimate combine measurements?

With shoes he’s listed at 6’5 75. So nearly 6’6 with a 6’10 wingspan. That’s enough size to guard 1-3. Maybe small ball 4.

Nobody is replacing OG. But Ochai can be a solid rotation player. He guarded Shai well and defend Banchero well in the first game we played them.

It means he's a SG, not a SF. 6'5" makes him not really that special as a SF. He got torched by Orlando, we didn't see the same game.

He guards down, not up. I have a hard time telling the difference between him and Ramsey, size wise tbh

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Man your argument keeps getting weirder. You are taking one of his best attributes and somehow trying to turn it into a weakness. The main reason he is viewed as having potential is because of his physical attributes and his ability to defend. The only question mark is whether he can become a league average 3pt shooter.


He shoots 25% from 3.

No he doesn't.

He hasn't progressed with his shot, ever.

Yes he has.

He's not physically capable of guarding people.

Yes he is.

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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#46 » by Dennis 37 » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:31 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Sure let’s complain about not finding untapped potential and diamonds in the rough. But then whine when we acquire people with a raw and intriguing skill base.


That's what we do.
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Re: JVL vs Ramsey 

Post#47 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:39 pm

Neither..m time to look elsewhere...

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