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Edey @ #32?

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Should Raps target Zac Edey @ #32

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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#61 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:07 pm

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HiJiNX wrote:I haven’t watched him play at all this season but I was never high on him, even when he was in high school. He’s a bench player in the NBA, assuming he sticks. When you’re that height you either have to be able to shoot or be so lethal 15 feet in that it justifies the weaknesses in a very fast and switchable NBA that proves challenging for big plodding guys.


You have to appreciate the confidence while claiming ignorance. fwiw, he averages 11.2 FTA/game this year in college. He is lethal 15 ft in, to the extent he gets fouled more than Shaq and David Robinson ever did.

Your high end comparison is Walker Kessler, who averaged 2.6 FTA at Auburn when teams were incentivized to put him on the line.

Let’s see how it goes in the NBA.

You really need to stop following me around to “rebuke” my takes. It’s weird behaviour.


I spend my time here "rebuking" a lot of takes from a lot of people because I like to debate topics in the NBA. It might be that you post a lot and tend to respond to counterpoints that gives you this impression. It's not personal or intentional. Everything we do on this board is 'weird' :lol: we're grown-ups talking about a kids game like it's world politics using fake identities.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#62 » by HiJiNX » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:17 pm

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You have to appreciate the confidence while claiming ignorance. fwiw, he averages 11.2 FTA/game this year in college. He is lethal 15 ft in, to the extent he gets fouled more than Shaq and David Robinson ever did.

Your high end comparison is Walker Kessler, who averaged 2.6 FTA at Auburn when teams were incentivized to put him on the line.

Let’s see how it goes in the NBA.

You really need to stop following me around to “rebuke” my takes. It’s weird behaviour.


I spend my time here "rebuking" a lot of takes from a lot of people because I like to debate topics in the NBA. It might be that you post a lot and tend to respond to counterpoints that gives you this impression. It's not personal or intentional. Everything we do on this board is 'weird' :lol: we're grown-ups talking about a kids game like it's world politics using fake identities.

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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#63 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:33 pm

In a draft this weak, I'd be shocked if he's there at 15 tbh.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#64 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:25 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:In a draft this weak, I'd be shocked if he's there at 15 tbh.


In this draft, there will players projected to go in the 20s, 2nd round that will be taken in the the lottery and players projected in the lottery that will go late 1st, 2nd round.

I expect more freak-outs than normal here if/when the Raps go against consensus, if there is even a consensus. Draft boards from team to team will likely vary more widely than normal.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#65 » by ItsDanger » Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:09 pm

When selecting a player in this mold, have to consider the impact of drop coverage tactic (give up long 2s, contested 3s, rim is protected). Many teams aren't even good in mid range. Obviously a team like Phoenix would be an issue, but they're in the West.

One of the bigger issues really is using a player like this requires absolute buy in from the other players, sacrifice. I'm not sure if that's even possible today with so much money depending on your counting stats.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#66 » by TGM » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:40 am

Wouldn't mind Edey at 32. But people should have their expectations managed. If you go back and watch him play athletic 5s he streams to struggle to guard and finish.

When he played Chet, it was a very tough match-up for him. He is great posting up for position, but unless he gets position his quickness is non-existent and he gets blocked face-up often despite his height.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#67 » by disoblige » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:18 am

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Everything we do on this board is 'weird' :lol: we're grown-ups talking about a kids game like it's world politics using fake identities.


Basketball or sports isnt a kids game. More like a fun fitness hobby for anyone. Most kids don’t even have the strength to shoot a ball into a official hoop at a distance.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#68 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:28 am

I’d rather take a gamble on Hansen Yang.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#69 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:30 am

TGM wrote:Wouldn't mind Edey at 32. But people should have their expectations managed. If you go back and watch him play athletic 5s he streams to struggle to guard and finish.

When he played Chet, it was a very tough match-up for him. He is great posting up for position, but unless he gets position his quickness is non-existent and he gets blocked face-up often despite his height.


Like a more skilled Hasheem Thabeet but still might not be mobile enough to be better than Zubac or Boban.

#31, I want to try and hit on someone like Desmond Bane, Gilbert Arenas or Jimmy Butler!!!

Maybe with the 2nd day of drafting teams have time to let the dust settle and more likely a team trades two 2nds for #31 if they think someone they liked dropped.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#70 » by ItsDanger » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:56 am

TGM wrote:Wouldn't mind Edey at 32. But people should have their expectations managed. If you go back and watch him play athletic 5s he streams to struggle to guard and finish.

When he played Chet, it was a very tough match-up for him. He is great posting up for position, but unless he gets position his quickness is non-existent and he gets blocked face-up often despite his height.

That was 3 yrs ago, not sure how relevant it is now. Chet was the PF in that lineup.

In that game:

Edey 16 pts, 16 rebounds, 3 blocks, +3
Chet 12 pts, 8 rebounds, 6 blocks, -11

I'd say at worse that was kind of even.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#71 » by Randle McMurphy » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:14 am

Waste of a pick. He's not mobile or skilled enough to play significant minutes in this version of the NBA. Maybe 20-30 years ago it would have worked.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#72 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:26 am

right now, take the best talent available cuz this team needs a bench and some starters. can't pick just based off of positional needs. Raptors need everything right now.
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Re: Edney @ #32? 

Post#73 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:39 am

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It's the 2nd time I've seen it within hours. I think the reddit guy had both names different than this guy, so it's not even the same guy.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#74 » by SharoneWright » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:48 am

It’s spelt Zachille O’Neal
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#75 » by CazOnReal » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:08 am

Depends on if Chomche is available
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#76 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:52 am

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Everything we do on this board is 'weird' :lol: we're grown-ups talking about a kids game like it's world politics using fake identities.


Basketball or sports isnt a kids game. More like a fun fitness hobby for anyone. Most kids don’t even have the strength to shoot a ball into a official hoop at a distance.


There's 3 hoops on my street, and I don't see adults using them :lol: Most adults don't have the ankles, knees and back to play basketball. But the emphasis of that statement is sports are relatively trivial.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#77 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:05 pm

Soneone in the West will take him too early to try and be a future match-up for Wembanyama. There's going to be too much FOMO around this kid. He's already 22 though. Maybe he stayed because he got paid more, but he wouldn't have gone first round last year when he was POY. Or wasn't projected to have gone in the first round.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#78 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:56 pm

I see some Roy Hibbert in him as well. But Hibbert didn't age well as the NBA moved towards a faster paced game. I think there's a role for him in the NBA , the question is, how big.

I can see a scenario where he's a valuable drop big who alters shots at the basket and finishes efficiently around the rim, but there's also a scenario where he just can't keep up with the speed of the game and he's played off the court a lot.
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#79 » by niQ » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:50 pm

I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him at 32. He'll likely be gone late first round though...
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Re: Edey @ #32? 

Post#80 » by Dalek » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:00 pm

It is from a couple years ago and since then both Chet and Zach improved, but you can see the limitations and benefits of Zach's size.



Zach has to stay close to the basket and against speed and shooting it nullifies him.

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