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agkagk wrote:islandboy53 wrote:ishoy123 wrote:
The whole point of doing all the trades this year is so we don't end up with a contract like Wiggins.
Thank you.
Go take a long look at the cap, wiggins contract, age and impact as a 3 and d wing.
Otherwise, you can count on one hand the other elite 3 and d wings.
Og, wiggins, mcdaniels, maybe dort, see already a big drop off!
JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
Who might give a FRP for Brown?
No one is giving a first for the privilege of overpaying GTJr.
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
Who might give a FRP for Brown?
No one is giving a first for the privilege of overpaying GTJr.
I think the Knicks might give one of their 2 picks in the 20s for BB and I think thats what was offered earlier this season
A team like Phx might want a cheaper sg replacement over Allen who may be too expensive to keep. Whoever they draft might not be ready to compete and this is already a poor draft.
Also don't know what you consider an overpay but I don't see Gary getting much more than a mid level deal. Max 16-18 million annually.
Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:
Who might give a FRP for Brown?
No one is giving a first for the privilege of overpaying GTJr.
I think the Knicks might give one of their 2 picks in the 20s for BB and I think thats what was offered earlier this season
A team like Phx might want a cheaper sg replacement over Allen who may be too expensive to keep. Whoever they draft might not be ready to compete and this is already a poor draft.
Also don't know what you consider an overpay but I don't see Gary getting much more than a mid level deal. Max 16-18 million annually.
Maybe NYK would. They are in a weird spot.
No one is giving anything for GTJr. I thought that would be his salary after last season but he really pooped his pants this year.
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
I think the Knicks might give one of their 2 picks in the 20s for BB and I think thats what was offered earlier this season
A team like Phx might want a cheaper sg replacement over Allen who may be too expensive to keep. Whoever they draft might not be ready to compete and this is already a poor draft.
Also don't know what you consider an overpay but I don't see Gary getting much more than a mid level deal. Max 16-18 million annually.
Maybe NYK would. They are in a weird spot.
No one is giving anything for GTJr. I thought that would be his salary after last season but he really pooped his pants this year.
Yeah so if he's set to make around the midlevel a team that is paying out the ass in luxury tax might want to get a cheap bench guard they can keep on the books. Hes not a starter level sg but he still makes 40% on 3's and has played well in a playoff rotation in a larger role than he'd have on a contending team
Nassir Little and their 2024 pick for GTJ on the MLE so they don't have to pay Allen over 20 million might be a win for them. Might even do a swap of the their pick for the Det 31-32 pick so they still keep a pick but at least save on how much they have to pay the rookie.
I don't see anyone in that range playing meaningful minutes for the Suns unless they are high on Ware and think he can help them contend now
Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:
Maybe NYK would. They are in a weird spot.
No one is giving anything for GTJr. I thought that would be his salary after last season but he really pooped his pants this year.
Yeah so if he's set to make around the midlevel a team that is paying out the ass in luxury tax might want to get a cheap bench guard they can keep on the books. Hes not a starter level sg but he still makes 40% on 3's and has played well in a playoff rotation in a larger role than he'd have on a contending team
Nassir Little and their 2024 pick for GTJ on the MLE so they don't have to pay Allen over 20 million might be a win for them. Might even do a swap of the their pick for the Det 31-32 pick so they still keep a pick but at least save on how much they have to pay the rookie.
I don't see anyone in that range playing meaningful minutes for the Suns unless they are high on Ware and think he can help them contend now
PHX might just be desperate enough to go for that.
islandboy53 wrote:JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Yeah so if he's set to make around the midlevel a team that is paying out the ass in luxury tax might want to get a cheap bench guard they can keep on the books. Hes not a starter level sg but he still makes 40% on 3's and has played well in a playoff rotation in a larger role than he'd have on a contending team
Nassir Little and their 2024 pick for GTJ on the MLE so they don't have to pay Allen over 20 million might be a win for them. Might even do a swap of the their pick for the Det 31-32 pick so they still keep a pick but at least save on how much they have to pay the rookie.
I don't see anyone in that range playing meaningful minutes for the Suns unless they are high on Ware and think he can help them contend now
PHX might just be desperate enough to go for that.
Phoenix is certain to be a 1st apron team. As such, they have to send out at least as much salary as they bring back in a trade, meaning Little's $6.75 million isn't enough to bring back Trent at the MLE. At the same time, they can't receive a player in a sign and trade, which this would have to be. In short, Trent can't go to Phoenix.
JRoy wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:JRoy wrote:
Maybe NYK would. They are in a weird spot.
No one is giving anything for GTJr. I thought that would be his salary after last season but he really pooped his pants this year.
Yeah so if he's set to make around the midlevel a team that is paying out the ass in luxury tax might want to get a cheap bench guard they can keep on the books. Hes not a starter level sg but he still makes 40% on 3's and has played well in a playoff rotation in a larger role than he'd have on a contending team
Nassir Little and their 2024 pick for GTJ on the MLE so they don't have to pay Allen over 20 million might be a win for them. Might even do a swap of the their pick for the Det 31-32 pick so they still keep a pick but at least save on how much they have to pay the rookie.
I don't see anyone in that range playing meaningful minutes for the Suns unless they are high on Ware and think he can help them contend now
PHX might just be desperate enough to go for that.
What are the penalties for the first apron?
The first apron hits when a team's payroll exceeds $172 million. At this point, the following restrictions are triggered:
Teams cannot acquire a player in a sign-and-trade if that player keeps them above the apron
Teams cannot sign a player waived during the regular season whose salary was over the $12.2 million midlevel exception
Salary matching in trades must be within 110 percent, rather than 125 percent for teams not above the apron
What are the penalties for the second apron?
All of the penalties for the first apron apply to the second apron as well, which is triggered when a team's salary exceeds $182.5 million. For the 2023-24 season, one additional penalty is added when crossing the second apron:
No access to the $5 million taxpayer midlevel exception
Starting at the end of the 2023-24 season, even more restrictions will be added to the second apron. These include:
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated by aggregating the salaries of multiple players
Teams cannot include cash in a trade
Teams cannot use a trade exception generated in a prior year
First-round picks seven years out are frozen (unable to be traded)
A team's first-round pick is moved to the end of the first round if they remain in the second apron for three out of five seasons
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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
TGM wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
I’m a huge Jakob fan, but his fit on a team like the Pelicans or Grizzlies is perfect. People will be shocked what you can get for Jakob. I don’t mind keeping him either cause with a healthy team you need a good Center. He just needs to stop rolling his ankle.
ArthurVandelay wrote:TGM wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
I’m a huge Jakob fan, but his fit on a team like the Pelicans or Grizzlies is perfect. People will be shocked what you can get for Jakob. I don’t mind keeping him either cause with a healthy team you need a good Center. He just needs to stop rolling his ankle.
OKC too
agkagk wrote:
Pelicans are desperate to replace val’s shooting.
Jakob’s not a good fit next to zion.
ArthurVandelay wrote:TGM wrote:UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Poeltl and 17 for Kennard and Grizz pick
Regardless of if we get our own or not we take Clingon with the Grizz pick (assuming no Sarr). Use BB and Gary to get another first and draft a wing and/or another pg
I’m a huge Jakob fan, but his fit on a team like the Pelicans or Grizzlies is perfect. People will be shocked what you can get for Jakob. I don’t mind keeping him either cause with a healthy team you need a good Center. He just needs to stop rolling his ankle.
OKC too
Fire everyone who doesn't win the NBA championship.
Tank for 2050. Robot players.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:NZ native, Steven Adams, was initially cast as Gandalf in Lord in the Rings... until Director Peter Jackson replaced him with a younger looking actor.
MessiahUjiri wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:TGM wrote:
I’m a huge Jakob fan, but his fit on a team like the Pelicans or Grizzlies is perfect. People will be shocked what you can get for Jakob. I don’t mind keeping him either cause with a healthy team you need a good Center. He just needs to stop rolling his ankle.
OKC too
Memphis and OKC are great trade teams at the draft.
Contender wannabes who have high/excess draft assets, and a need for C.
I’m really not looking to tank again next year though, which is the implication if we trade Poeltl.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
YogurtProducer wrote:I really want us to sign Mac McClung to a 10-day here. G-League MVP, And in his one NBA start he put up 20/9/9 on 8/17 from the field.
He obviously is an athletic dude, is his defense really that bad?
Fire everyone who doesn't win the NBA championship.
Tank for 2050. Robot players.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:NZ native, Steven Adams, was initially cast as Gandalf in Lord in the Rings... until Director Peter Jackson replaced him with a younger looking actor.
MessiahUjiri wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:I really want us to sign Mac McClung to a 10-day here. G-League MVP, And in his one NBA start he put up 20/9/9 on 8/17 from the field.
He obviously is an athletic dude, is his defense really that bad?
He would be great entertainment on the 905.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
PoundTown wrote:Man, watching the heat right now and signing either Caleb Martin (UFA) or Haywood highsmith (RFA) would be a good fit with our squad.
Highsmith is like what we want agbaji to be and a bit taller and lengthier. Can guard the 1-4 and would fit well, moves off the ball well and has really hit his stride shooting the 3 ball. We need to get Scottie back to being a premier help defender, that can switch and defend well on the ball rather than using him as our lockdown guy.
