Porter under investigation for prop betting involving himself

libertyYYZ · Post #501 » by **libertyYYZ** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:13 pm

12x growth in legal sports gambling in 4 years. That's 86.5% annualized over this period. The sports leagues are happy, but it's just a cash siphon on families and individuals with their own issues.

refshateRaps · Post #502 » by **refshateRaps** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:37 pm

The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

YogurtProducer · Post #503 » by **YogurtProducer** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:40 pm

refshateRaps wrote:The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

kwajo · Post #504 » by **kwajo** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:07 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

I agree on the advertising bit.

Frankly I never understood why so many people are against broad taxation to pay for services that are essential to our society but are okay with predatory gambling and lottery practices that are proven to target population with low economic mobility. Sure there is a 1 in ~14,000,000 chance you might win the 6/49, but for most people it is a tax they get suckered into by advertising and the hope of breaking out of an economic system that devalued them in the first place.

TorontoBarneys · Post #505 » by **TorontoBarneys** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:24 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

I find greasy takeout shawarma addicting as well. Can we also do away with fast food advertising?

Well, we know the answer to that. :lol:

(I agree with you btw, not using your post to be snide.)

lolwut · Post #506 » by **lolwut** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:52 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

I find greasy takeout shawarma addicting as well. Can we also do away with fast food advertising?

Well, we know that answer to that.
(I agree with you btw, not using your post to be snide.)

You do raise a good point about where to draw the line for what is "addictive" and what isn't. Many things that are bad for us in large doses also happen to be quite addictive. Sugar is one of the most addictive substances, and is terrible for your body and wallet in large quantities, but are we going to do anything about Coke and Pepsi ads? Are we going to ban sugary juice boxes for kids? How much taxpayer money are we spending each year on diabetes?

Trying to create legislation based on the "addictiveness" of products is probably a huge legal rat hole.

Potential · Post #507 » by **Potential** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:55 pm

Read on Twitter

Bruin · Post #508 » by **Bruin** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:55 pm

If he’s guilty, Idiot ruined his career for something so stupid.

YogurtProducer · Post #509 » by **YogurtProducer** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:06 pm

lolwut wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

I find greasy takeout shawarma addicting as well. Can we also do away with fast food advertising?

Well, we know that answer to that.
(I agree with you btw, not using your post to be snide.)

You do raise a good point about where to draw the line for what is "addictive" and what isn't. Many things that are bad for us in large doses also happen to be quite addictive. Sugar is one of the most addictive substances, and is terrible for your body and wallet in large quantities, but are we going to do anything about Coke and Pepsi ads? Are we going to ban sugary juice boxes for kids? How much taxpayer money are we spending each year on diabetes?

Trying to create legislation based on the "addictiveness" of products is probably a huge legal rat hole.

I think most people can see the differences between what alcohol, drugs, and gambling can do to a person/family vs what Pepsi can do.

Last time I checked, not many people are going into intense debt to feed their Pepsi addictions, nor are they putting their health anywhere near as at risk as you do with alcohol or cigarettes.

But as we advance as a society, I am sure we will get to the point where we start to phase out things like soft drinks. It would be been incomprehensible in the 50s to suggest smoking be banned - yet some places are doing just that.

brownbobcat · Post #510 » by **brownbobcat** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:10 pm

Potential wrote:

Read on Twitter

he gone

rapsincr · Post #511 » by **rapsincr** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:05 pm

betting in sports is just gonna make this kind of thing way more prominent with athletes, especially fringe pros that know they might not get a next paycheck.

the NBA should also be looking at referees way more closely imo. too much shady stuff goes on with those guys game in and game out.

Tha Cynic · Post #512 » by **Tha Cynic** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:08 pm

rapsincr wrote:betting in sports is just gonna make this kind of thing way more prominent with athletes, especially fringe pros that know they might not get a next paycheck.

the NBA should also be looking at referees way more closely imo. too much shady stuff goes on with those guys game in and game out.

They'll do everything to not look at the refs. Didn't they stop the investigation on Donaughy? If it comes out that they're shady (which I'm sure some are) it would hurt the league and their ability to make money off betting.

rapsincr · Post #513 » by **rapsincr** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:11 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:
rapsincr wrote:betting in sports is just gonna make this kind of thing way more prominent with athletes, especially fringe pros that know they might not get a next paycheck.

the NBA should also be looking at referees way more closely imo. too much shady stuff goes on with those guys game in and game out.

They'll do everything to not look at the refs. Didn't they stop the investigation on Donaughy? If it comes out that they're shady (which I'm sure some are) it would hurt the league and their ability to make money off betting.

ever since tim donaghy, i see refs completely different and question everything.

MiamiSPX · Post #514 » by **MiamiSPX** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:18 pm

They did their best to make Donaghy out to be a rogue, lone ranger. But we all know (looking at you Foster, and Malloy).

Scase · Post #515 » by **Scase** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:26 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
refshateRaps wrote:The Government: 'We are taking measures to prevent people from the dangers of cigarettes'

Also the Government: 'How about some weed, lotto or a parlay?'

To be fair, at least weed is not allowed to advertise.

Now, why is alcohol and the lottery allowed I have no clue.

IMO - anything addictive should just be nuked from public advertising. Weed, Alcohol, Gambling. I can live with the lotteries as at least generally the "profits" on those are used for good (Hospital home lotteries, etc.)

I find greasy takeout shawarma addicting as well. Can we also do away with fast food advertising?

Well, we know the answer to that.
(I agree with you btw, not using your post to be snide.)

Literally everything can be argued to be addictive to some people, ban everything!

That said I would be fine with a ban on alcohol, gambling, cigarettes. Arguably fast food should be as well. Things that straight up destroy your body/life for the average person, I wouldn't be totally against it.

Slippery slope and all that though.

2019nbachamps · Post #516 » by **2019nbachamps** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:30 pm

Silver wouldn’t say this without strong evidence. He said something similar before Ja Morant’s big suspension this summer. Porter is in big trouble.

HangTime · Post #517 » by **HangTime** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:35 pm

They finally have a reason to ban Draymond if they want.

How much did he cost the sportsbooks during the Klay Thompson return game.
People bet heavy on all his under props, and played only a few seconds.

DelAbbot · Post #518 » by **DelAbbot** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:36 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
Potential wrote:

Read on Twitter

he gone

He banned

Spates · Post #519 » by **Spates** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:39 pm

Feels a little hypocritical.

tecumseh18 · Post #520 » by **tecumseh18** » Wed Apr 10, 2024 9:55 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
brownbobcat wrote:
Potential wrote:

Read on Twitter

he gone

He banned

He perma-banned.

Although I'm not sure the league has to do anything. What NBA team would ever give him a contract going forward? What players would want to play with him, would pass the ball to him?

This isn't some minor infraction, like beating your gf within an inch of her life, or pushing her downstairs, or raping a woman. And then paying them to shut up.