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Post#861 » by Dalek » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:23 pm

Psubs wrote:Not being able to hit the 3 at minimum 33% in the NBA for a guard pretty much means you won't make the league.

Last year I was really thinking Sidy Cissoko would be good, but just like Dyson Daniels, not being able to hit from downtown makes it hard to contribute as a guard.



He looks good in every other aspect but 3pt shooting. Though GLeague also shooting FT's at 63%.

Which guards/SF's look like they won't be able to hit the 3 like an Evan Turner.

Ryan Dunn shoots 20% from 3 and only 53% FTs. He's a defensive specialist that may not be able to start. Maybe at best he's Ronnie Brewer?

Topic shoots poorly from 3 but really good FT's like almost 90%, he might eventually shoot decent from 3 like Jason Kidd and TJ McConnell after 5-10 years in the league.

Castle shoots 26.7% from 3 and 75.5% from 3. I think he's around the flip a coin whether he'll be able to shoot from 3 or become an Evan Turner with better handles.


All I have to say is Herb Jones. Career 29% on threes in college and a 60% FT. He was 33% for his first two NBA seasons, but his defense kept him on court. This year he hit 42% from three. With development things can change.

What is impossible to do is teach defensive instincts. Dunn has the ability to be a game changer from the defensive end. I don't see a great fit in Toronto, we have too many offensive question marks (Poeltl, Ochai), but I think on a team like Charlotte he could add a missing piece.

Castle has better defensive skills than Turner but I can see your comparison. I think he is closer to a Josh Hart type of guard coming in. That is a very valuable connective piece. Really, we need defense and one other decent skill. and Castle can be a good secondary playmaker, maybe even a primary in time. He does everything at a high level and has great poise and played and started for the best team in college. What I will say about the outside shooting is Hurley kind of kept guys in their role. Klingan has a bit of jumpshot but he never took one. Castle probably was asked to focus more on attacking rim and mid-range. With Karaban and Spencer spacing the floor it made sense. In the NBA, guys can really expand their games.

I am starting to feel like Topic is a wild card, but luckily he comes back soon. Once we have more film of him in the playoffs, we can get a better feel for him. Nikola Djurisic has really taken a big leap since Topic has left. I kind of wonder who is the better prospect at times.
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Post#862 » by mihaic » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:56 pm

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Psubs wrote:Not being able to hit the 3 at minimum 33% in the NBA for a guard pretty much means you won't make the league.

Last year I was really thinking Sidy Cissoko would be good, but just like Dyson Daniels, not being able to hit from downtown makes it hard to contribute as a guard.



He looks good in every other aspect but 3pt shooting. Though GLeague also shooting FT's at 63%.

Which guards/SF's look like they won't be able to hit the 3 like an Evan Turner.

Ryan Dunn shoots 20% from 3 and only 53% FTs. He's a defensive specialist that may not be able to start. Maybe at best he's Ronnie Brewer?

Topic shoots poorly from 3 but really good FT's like almost 90%, he might eventually shoot decent from 3 like Jason Kidd and TJ McConnell after 5-10 years in the league.

Castle shoots 26.7% from 3 and 75.5% from 3. I think he's around the flip a coin whether he'll be able to shoot from 3 or become an Evan Turner with better handles.


All I have to say is Herb Jones. Career 29% on threes in college and a 60% FT. He was 33% for his first two NBA seasons, but his defense kept him on court. This year he hit 42% from three. With development things can change.

What is impossible to do is teach defensive instincts. Dunn has the ability to be a game changer from the defensive end. I don't see a great fit in Toronto, we have too many offensive question marks (Poeltl, Ochai), but I think on a team like Charlotte he could add a missing piece.

Castle has better defensive skills than Turner but I can see your comparison. I think he is closer to a Josh Hart type of guard coming in. That is a very valuable connective piece. Really, we need defense and one other decent skill. and Castle can be a good secondary playmaker, maybe even a primary in time. He does everything at a high level and has great poise and played and started for the best team in college. What I will say about the outside shooting is Hurley kind of kept guys in their role. Klingan has a bit of jumpshot but he never took one. Castle probably was asked to focus more on attacking rim and mid-range. With Karaban and Spencer spacing the floor it made sense. In the NBA, guys can really expand their games.

I am starting to feel like Topic is a wild card, but luckily he comes back soon. Once we have more film of him in the playoffs, we can get a better feel for him. Nikola Djurisic has really taken a big leap since Topic has left. I kind of wonder who is the better prospect at times.

Durisic was on my list too, but I thought he will not declare for this draft
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Post#863 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:39 pm

I think Raps prefer to lose it cuz they got indy pick 16-20 + DET 31

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Post#864 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:40 pm

if there was a guy at 6, Reed Sheppard. more high calibre role player to BBQ.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#865 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:42 pm

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Potential wrote:Sheppard should be the pick if he's there he looks like jrue holiday and stockton

Problem with Sheppard is if you are drafting in the top 6, you want at least a starting calibre player, and you cannot run an IQ Sheppard back court; it will be too small.


right now at 6, you take the best player available.
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Post#866 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:43 pm

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Post#867 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:43 pm

Reed Sheppard has FK U written all over him when he plays. Amazing feel and plays both ends
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Post#868 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:44 pm

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i think he goes top 5 and won't be there when Toronto comes to pick at 6. everyone needs a high level big man, if thats what he projects to be. him winning probably helped his stock
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#869 » by Smalltown » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:45 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:10. Nwora


Gone IMO. Better off taking a swing on another reclamation project with better defence.
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Post#870 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:45 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Reed Sheppard has FK U written all over him when he plays. Amazing feel and plays both ends


yessir. even if he comes off the bench to begin his career, our bench just got a whole lot better.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#871 » by Spates » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:45 pm

This draft behooves organizations to break away from mock drafts to find success. Not many players standout from the pack.

It's insanity that mock drafts are largely abided by when the process is a crapshoot.
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Post#872 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:47 pm

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i think he goes top 5 and won't be there when Toronto comes to pick at 6. everyone needs a high level big man, if thats what he projects to be. him winning probably helped his stock

TOR has only 8.6% chance of staying at 6
Its likely either top 4 or nothing
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Post#873 » by TronoWrappers » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:52 pm

The prophicy has already been written. :reporter:

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Post#874 » by goinrogue » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:05 pm

I think the most obvious raps picks in the top 6 are Buzelis, Ron Holland and Reed Shepard.

Buzelis just seems like a Darko guy - Quick decisions with the ball, a spacer, a high IQ player. In my opinion, he’s the guy.

Ron holland - great wing defender with some offensive upside. Masai specially said we need a wing defender so he fits the bill.

Reed - great shooter, high IQ, can play back up
Point or start in a smaller lineup. Will fit really well with Scottie.

Regarding Topic, other than being Serbian, I don’t see the fit. He’s kinda ball dominant and can’t shoot.

I haven’t seen enough of Sarr to have a strong opinion.
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Post#875 » by mtcan » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:12 pm

goinrogue wrote:I think the most obvious raps picks in the top 6 are Buzelis, Ron Holland and Reed Shepard.

Buzelis just seems like a Darko guy - Quick decisions with the ball, a spacer, a high IQ player. In my opinion, he’s the guy.

Ron holland - great wing defender with some offensive upside. Masai specially said we need a wing defender so he fits the bill.

Reed - great shooter, high IQ, can play back up
Point or start in a smaller lineup. Will fit really well with Scottie.

Regarding Topic, other than being Serbian, I don’t see the fit. He’s kinda ball dominant and can’t shoot.

I haven’t seen enough of Sarr to have a strong opinion.

I think Sarr is probably a consensus #1 at this point. What happens after is anyone's guess.
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Post#876 » by Dalek » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:20 pm

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Dalek wrote:I am starting to feel like Topic is a wild card, but luckily he comes back soon. Once we have more film of him in the playoffs, we can get a better feel for him. Nikola Djurisic has really taken a big leap since Topic has left. I kind of wonder who is the better prospect at times.

Durisic was on my list too, but I thought he will not declare for this draft


I think he is declaring and his game is getting stronger lately. Definitely on a up trend:

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Post#877 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:23 pm

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i think he goes top 5 and won't be there when Toronto comes to pick at 6. everyone needs a high level big man, if thats what he projects to be. him winning probably helped his stock

TOR has only 8.6% chance of staying at 6
Its likely either top 4 or nothing


stranger things have happened. watch noone move anywhere :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#878 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:25 pm

watch the Raptors trade up for the #1 pick. that would be hilarious in itself, if the Raps don't win the lottery. we're in uncharted territories when it comes to Masai and this phase of the Raptors.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#879 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:29 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:watch the Raptors trade up for the #1 pick. that would be hilarious in itself, if the Raps don't win the lottery. we're in uncharted territories when it comes to Masai and this phase of the Raptors.

Trading up to take Sarr would be

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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#880 » by alpngso » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:29 pm

Psubs wrote:
All I have to say is Herb Jones. Career 29% on threes in college and a 60% FT. He was 33% for his first two NBA seasons, but his defense kept him on court. This year he hit 42% from three. With development things can change.

What is impossible to do is teach defensive instincts. Dunn has the ability to be a game changer from the defensive end. I don't see a great fit in Toronto, we have too many offensive question marks (Poeltl, Ochai), but I think on a team like Charlotte he could add a missing piece.

Castle has better defensive skills than Turner but I can see your comparison. I think he is closer to a Josh Hart type of guard coming in. That is a very valuable connective piece. Really, we need defense and one other decent skill. and Castle can be a good secondary playmaker, maybe even a primary in time. He does everything at a high level and has great poise and played and started for the best team in college. What I will say about the outside shooting is Hurley kind of kept guys in their role. Klingan has a bit of jumpshot but he never took one. Castle probably was asked to focus more on attacking rim and mid-range. With Karaban and Spencer spacing the floor it made sense. In the NBA, guys can really expand their games.

I am starting to feel like Topic is a wild card, but luckily he comes back soon. Once we have more film of him in the playoffs, we can get a better feel for him. Nikola Djurisic has really taken a big leap since Topic has left. I kind of wonder who is the better prospect at times.


Herb Jones reclamation project = Fred Vinson’s work

He fixed Lonzo’s shooting as well. Possibly the best shooting coach, between him and Chip England who fixed Kawhi, now in OKC.

Raptors don’t have them. Shot is easier to teach than height and athleticism but bad shooters never learn to shoot most times.

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