Where would you slot Dick into the 2024 NBA draft?

[bonjovi0308]

It has been repeated numerous times that this upcoming draft is a very inferior one. Before the start of this NBA season, some scout/front office commented that had Dick waited for 1 more year and to declare this year, he could be a top 5 pick. As we all know how has he played in the NBA so far, and assuming he could re-enter this upcoming draft again, where do you think he will be picked??

If Dick only warrants a top 5 slot but not the 1st overall, then I guess this draft does not seem to be as bad as many people made it to be. This is also probably the reason why the Raps wanted to tank once Scottie went down with injuries, because a top 6 pick in this draft could still be a Dick equivalent?

[S.W.A.N]

TOR
Gradey Dick SG/SF | Kansas 6'7.25"

19.6 yrs
.581 TS% 20.5 USG 4.9 OBPM 2.9 DBPM 7.7 BPM

15.5 PTS 5.7 REB 1.8 AST 0.3 BLK 1.6 STL

Dick was mocked in the 6-10 range most of the year and then fell to 13.

In this draft he'd probably be mocked 3-8.
Sarr (size)
.569 TS% 21.9 USG
19.2 PTS 9.0 REB 2.1 AST 3.1 BLK 0.9 STL

Risacher (size and defensive projections)
.575 TS% 22.0 USG
16.7 PTS 5.3 REB 1.5 AST 0.6 BLK 1.4 STL


Topic (size for position)

Are the three guys that I think would likely be consistently mocked ahead of Dick in most draft sites.... but there would always be teams that value defense or other intangibles over Gradey's shooting but I think he'd be pretty high and wouldn't be surprised if people say his range would even go as high as #2

[ArthurVandelay]

Hmmmm

Where would I slip Dick in?

Hmmmmm

[DemHeavyHands]

I would slot Dick in the 2-hole personally

That’s how weak this draft is

[OAKLEY_2]

TOR
Gradey Dick SG/SF | Kansas 6'7.25"

19.6 yrs
.581 TS% 20.5 USG 4.9 OBPM 2.9 DBPM 7.7 BPM

15.5 PTS 5.7 REB 1.8 AST 0.3 BLK 1.6 STL

Dick was mocked in the 6-10 range most of the year and then fell to 13.

In this draft he'd probably be mocked 3-8.
Sarr (size)
.569 TS% 21.9 USG
19.2 PTS 9.0 REB 2.1 AST 3.1 BLK 0.9 STL

Risacher (size and defensive projections)
.575 TS% 22.0 USG
16.7 PTS 5.3 REB 1.5 AST 0.6 BLK 1.4 STL


Topic (size for position)

Are the three guys that I think would likely be consistently mocked ahead of Dick in most draft sites.... but there would always be teams that value defense or other intangibles over Gradey's shooting but I think he'd be pretty high and wouldn't be surprised if people say his range would even go as high as #2

6 to 10. I mean I look at Furphy who is a definite sleeper pick in 2024 and I do not see a ton of difference in skillsets. Furphy is bigger and a better defender. Having twin Gradeys by getting Furphy at the Pacers pick might salvage our draft if we convey the lotto pick. If we convey the lotto pick we should be making deals to get the player we like not all the ones we dislike. Gradey's turnaround might improve Furphy's stock.

[Indeed]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

[Psubs]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Ahead of Cody Williams. I think would be on par with Reed Sheppard. Anywhere from #2 to 8.

I would say he'd be like the Mike Miller of the 2000 draft selected #5 overall. Close to the 2nd best player in that draft.

This year, Sarr would be the Kenyon Martin of this draft.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2000.html

[Psubs]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Draft stock for Coulibaly would be Risacher and Cason Wallace would be Stephon Castle with less size but with 3pt shooting.

[ForeverTFC]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Based on how everyone performed this year? Top 10. But it's too early.

[Indeed]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Ahead of Cody Williams. I think would be on par with Reed Sheppard. Anywhere from #2 to 8.

I would say he'd be like the Mike Miller of the 2000 draft selected #5 overall. Close to the 2nd best player in that draft.

This year, Sarr would be the Kenyon Martin of this draft.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2000.html

The size of Dick would be ahead of Sheppard, because the replacement of Sheppard is easier to find than Dick, so I have him ahead, and I am a little skeptical that Sheppard would go as high as #2, as I think teams may also prefer size.

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Draft stock for Coulibaly would be Risacher and Cason Wallace would be Stephon Castle with less size but with 3pt shooting.

I agree on Coulibaly being compared to Risacher.
I think Castle is overrated, doesn't show enough of ball creation, so I don't see the comparison. Wallace maybe more closer to Risacher than Castle. That being said, I have Dick over Castle.

[Indeed]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Based on how everyone performed this year? Top 10. But it's too early.

Most of the people don't see him better than most of the players drafted ahead of him, while 4 more raised above him, so hard to see how he can be a top 10 in this draft.
1 Victor Wembanyama > Dick
2 Brandon Miller > Dick
3 Scoot Henderson > Dick
4 Amen Thompson > Dick
5 Ausar Thompson > Dick
6 Anthony Black
7 Bilal Coulibaly > Dick
8 Jarace Walker
9 Taylor Hendricks
10 Cason Wallace > Dick
11 Jett Howard
12 Dereck Lively II > Dick
13 Gradey Dick
14 Jordan Hawkins
15 Kobe Bufkin
16 Keyonte George > Dick
17 Jalen Hood-Schifino
18 Jaime Jaquez Jr. > Dick
19 Brandin Podziemski > Dick
20 Cam Whitmore > Dick

[YogurtProducer]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Based on how everyone performed this year? Top 10. But it's too early.

Most of the people don't see him better than most of the players drafted ahead of him, while 4 more raised above him, so hard to see how he can be a top 10 in this draft.
1 Victor Wembanyama > Dick
2 Brandon Miller > Dick
3 Scoot Henderson > Dick
4 Amen Thompson > Dick
5 Ausar Thompson > Dick
6 Anthony Black
7 Bilal Coulibaly > Dick
8 Jarace Walker
9 Taylor Hendricks
10 Cason Wallace > Dick
11 Jett Howard
12 Dereck Lively II > Dick
13 Gradey Dick
14 Jordan Hawkins
15 Kobe Bufkin
16 Keyonte George > Dick
17 Jalen Hood-Schifino
18 Jaime Jaquez Jr. > Dick
19 Brandin Podziemski > Dick
20 Cam Whitmore > Dick

Not convinced GMs take George, JJJ, or Whitmore over Dick. George has been meh he just has been given usage, JJJ is older and at his ceiling, and Whitmore has 28 assists in his career (with 8 being in the last 2 games).

On the flip side, Scoot, Amen, Ausar, and Bilal are all just "potential" picks but they really haven't been that good or proven they are regular NBA players yet. You still take them over Dick now, but I think in 5 years at least 2 of those guys are viewed as colossal busts.

[Tor_Raps]

Hmmmm

Where would I slip Dick in?

Hmmmmm

Its 2024 bro, you have 230304 pronouns, I mean draft slots, to choose from. Answer isn't that obvious anymore

[wegotthabeet]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Ahead of Cody Williams. I think would be on par with Reed Sheppard. Anywhere from #2 to 8.

I would say he'd be like the Mike Miller of the 2000 draft selected #5 overall. Close to the 2nd best player in that draft.

This year, Sarr would be the Kenyon Martin of this draft.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2000.html

even though 2000 is the worst draft in the last 40 years it still produced roughly 15 solid NBA rotation players, just no real stars.

goes to show that every draft has at least 15 players that stick around for at least three contracts.

[Scase]

Before the 2023 draft, I think it would be ahead of Knecht and Sheppard and Furphy, which would be 4 - 8, assume he keeps the age if draft in the 2024. Coulibaly would be top 3, Cason Wallace would be top 5.

In a re-draft, where would Dick rank on a 2023 draft? Mid-first?

Ahead of Cody Williams. I think would be on par with Reed Sheppard. Anywhere from #2 to 8.

I would say he'd be like the Mike Miller of the 2000 draft selected #5 overall. Close to the 2nd best player in that draft.

This year, Sarr would be the Kenyon Martin of this draft.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2000.html

even though 2000 is the worst draft in the last 40 years it still produced roughly 15 solid NBA rotation players, just no real stars.

goes to show that every draft has at least 15 players that stick around for at least three contracts.

Sure would be great to walk away from a 25 win season with the absolute peak, being a Mike Miller level player lol.

[Indeed]

Based on how everyone performed this year? Top 10. But it's too early.

Most of the people don't see him better than most of the players drafted ahead of him, while 4 more raised above him, so hard to see how he can be a top 10 in this draft.
1 Victor Wembanyama > Dick
2 Brandon Miller > Dick
3 Scoot Henderson > Dick
4 Amen Thompson > Dick
5 Ausar Thompson > Dick
6 Anthony Black
7 Bilal Coulibaly > Dick
8 Jarace Walker
9 Taylor Hendricks
10 Cason Wallace > Dick
11 Jett Howard
12 Dereck Lively II > Dick
13 Gradey Dick
14 Jordan Hawkins
15 Kobe Bufkin
16 Keyonte George > Dick
17 Jalen Hood-Schifino
18 Jaime Jaquez Jr. > Dick
19 Brandin Podziemski > Dick
20 Cam Whitmore > Dick

Not convinced GMs take George, JJJ, or Whitmore over Dick. George has been meh he just has been given usage, JJJ is older and at his ceiling, and Whitmore has 28 assists in his career (with 8 being in the last 2 games).

On the flip side, Scoot, Amen, Ausar, and Bilal are all just "potential" picks but they really haven't been that good or proven they are regular NBA players yet. You still take them over Dick now, but I think in 5 years at least 2 of those guys are viewed as colossal busts.

Interesting that you think Dick is a better player or with equivalent potential. I think he is just at most at the same level with those you mentioned.
Meanwhile, the ones that I ranked was reading a few websites

[positivetension]

Ausar missed the last few months of the season with a blood clot. That hurts his stock even if it's just a one off event. We all saw what happened with Koloko and Bosh.

[YogurtProducer]

Most of the people don't see him better than most of the players drafted ahead of him, while 4 more raised above him, so hard to see how he can be a top 10 in this draft.
1 Victor Wembanyama > Dick
2 Brandon Miller > Dick
3 Scoot Henderson > Dick
4 Amen Thompson > Dick
5 Ausar Thompson > Dick
6 Anthony Black
7 Bilal Coulibaly > Dick
8 Jarace Walker
9 Taylor Hendricks
10 Cason Wallace > Dick
11 Jett Howard
12 Dereck Lively II > Dick
13 Gradey Dick
14 Jordan Hawkins
15 Kobe Bufkin
16 Keyonte George > Dick
17 Jalen Hood-Schifino
18 Jaime Jaquez Jr. > Dick
19 Brandin Podziemski > Dick
20 Cam Whitmore > Dick

Not convinced GMs take George, JJJ, or Whitmore over Dick. George has been meh he just has been given usage, JJJ is older and at his ceiling, and Whitmore has 28 assists in his career (with 8 being in the last 2 games).

On the flip side, Scoot, Amen, Ausar, and Bilal are all just "potential" picks but they really haven't been that good or proven they are regular NBA players yet. You still take them over Dick now, but I think in 5 years at least 2 of those guys are viewed as colossal busts.

Interesting that you think Dick is a better player or with equivalent potential. I think he is just at most at the same level with those you mentioned.
Meanwhile, the ones that I ranked was reading a few websites

I think Dick has the best NBA skill - and that is shooting. Ausar/Amen are great defenders so that would be close to but their shooting is just so bad that they could end up unplayable.

Reality is they all have question marks.

Scoot has been downright dreadful.

[wegotthabeet]

Ahead of Cody Williams. I think would be on par with Reed Sheppard. Anywhere from #2 to 8.

I would say he'd be like the Mike Miller of the 2000 draft selected #5 overall. Close to the 2nd best player in that draft.

This year, Sarr would be the Kenyon Martin of this draft.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2000.html

even though 2000 is the worst draft in the last 40 years it still produced roughly 15 solid NBA rotation players, just no real stars.

goes to show that every draft has at least 15 players that stick around for at least three contracts.

Sure would be great to walk away from a 25 win season with the absolute peak, being a Mike Miller level player lol.

I’m pretty sure they traded the pick because the draft is weak. Can’t have it both ways.

[mihaic]

A large contingent here wanted Bufkin. Based on the first year, I am glad we didn't get him instead