2024 Playoffs Discussion Thread

[AbC?]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

[MiamiSPX]

Maybe fans here will now realize Siakam wasn’t the problem, and never was.

raptors actually looked pretty good post-OG pre-Siakam trade....it was enjoyable for the few games we got to watch it

I think if Poetle doesn't get hurt, we turn the season around and Siakam doesn't get traded.

From the info that came out after the trade, he was getting moved no matter what. Masai was never going to max him.

[SnotoriousBIG]

You had dudes on here saying they would rather have Jerami Grant than Siakam or that Pascal was a fake All NBA player

[YogurtProducer]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

No we could not have. OG/GTJ/Barnes was the salary it required.

[Syd-TK3]

Anyone with common sense knows siakam wasn't the problem. Trading Siakam wasn't even a bad decision it's when we traded him and as a result the garbage return

[AbC?]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

No we could not have. OG/GTJ/Barnes was the salary it required.

A combination of Thad/Otto/Boucher could have made up the OG salary. Stop it.

[YogurtProducer]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

No we could not have. OG/GTJ/Barnes was the salary it required.

A combination of Thad/Otto/Boucher could have made up the OG salary. Stop it.

Would have been tough considering otto + boucher were recently signed and therefore ineligible to be traded at the time. By the time they were, there was no way we were giving Brooklyn more than what they got from Phoenix (Bridges / Johnson / 5 firsts).

So no - it was never feasible.

[AbC?]

No we could not have. OG/GTJ/Barnes was the salary it required.

A combination of Thad/Otto/Boucher could have made up the OG salary. Stop it.

Would have been tough considering otto + boucher were recently signed and therefore ineligible to be traded at the time. By the time they were, there was no way we were giving Brooklyn more than what they got from Phoenix (Bridges / Johnson / 5 firsts).

So no - it was never feasible.

They were eligible to be traded January 15th and Durant was traded in February. Good lord man give it up.

[Chandan]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

we've already hired Darko in the off season. So playoffs wasn't happening regardless of the roster.

[goinrogue]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

Omg you hate Barnes we get it.

[YogurtProducer]

A combination of Thad/Otto/Boucher could have made up the OG salary. Stop it.

Would have been tough considering otto + boucher were recently signed and therefore ineligible to be traded at the time. By the time they were, there was no way we were giving Brooklyn more than what they got from Phoenix (Bridges / Johnson / 5 firsts).

So no - it was never feasible.

They were eligible to be traded January 15th and Durant was traded in February. Good lord man give it up.

And our rumors of going after KD was in the summer - when they were ineligible to be traded.

But hey if you are Phoenix do you accept:

Barnes/GTJ/Thad/Boucher/Picks

OR

Bridges/Johnson/5 1st rounders

So unless you think we should have traded our entire draft future it was NEVER FEASIBLE. Siakam/KD/FVV/OG with no bench and no draft picks is a horrible place to be

[Chandan]

Could have had Durant-OG-FVV-Siakam for a few fun playoff runs.

Instead we got 5 years of doing literally nothing and just now starting a rebuild trying to forcefeed Barnes as a franchise caliber guy.

No we could not have. OG/GTJ/Barnes was the salary it required.

A combination of Thad/Otto/Boucher could have made up the OG salary. Stop it.

Tradeable contracts and salary ballasts are only for realgm deflection arguments. Raptors dont actually use them.

[TrustFundBaby]

I was told Siakam was a playoffs fraud who was gonna get shutdown and we needed to trade him

Glad to see Siakam showing out, get that max contract Spicy

[NinjaBro]

Unless we draft another Jokic with one of indy's picks, this will go down as an all time worst trade ever in nba history.

We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffen before it's too late! - PhilBlackson

[AbC?]

Would have been tough considering otto + boucher were recently signed and therefore ineligible to be traded at the time. By the time they were, there was no way we were giving Brooklyn more than what they got from Phoenix (Bridges / Johnson / 5 firsts).

So no - it was never feasible.

They were eligible to be traded January 15th and Durant was traded in February. Good lord man give it up.

And our rumors of going after KD was in the summer - when they were ineligible to be traded.

But hey if you are Phoenix do you accept:

Barnes/GTJ/Thad/Boucher/Picks

OR

Bridges/Johnson/5 1st rounders

So unless you think we should have traded our entire draft future it was NEVER FEASIBLE. Siakam/KD/FVV/OG with no bench and no draft picks is a horrible place to be

So it wasn’t a salary issue and the trade could have been done without OG. Cleared that up.

Barnes was the most valuable asset in either package. A proven top 5 pick, RotY with star upside is far better than 26 year old Bridges, far out picks and a couple swaps. That’s the best return the Nets could have hoped for for a disgruntled KD at the time. The raptors wouldn’t have had to give up additional picks. Trent is also younger than both Cam/Mikal and probably have positive trade value. If Masai wanted Durant, we would have gotten him. He didn’t have the balls to do it and went for Poeltl instead. Funny that trade was still doable and we could have had FVV-OG-KD-Siakam-Poeltl which is insanely good.

[sofargone]

looks like the bucks lacked dogs tonight pat bev

[YogurtProducer]

They were eligible to be traded January 15th and Durant was traded in February. Good lord man give it up.

And our rumors of going after KD was in the summer - when they were ineligible to be traded.

But hey if you are Phoenix do you accept:

Barnes/GTJ/Thad/Boucher/Picks

OR

Bridges/Johnson/5 1st rounders

So unless you think we should have traded our entire draft future it was NEVER FEASIBLE. Siakam/KD/FVV/OG with no bench and no draft picks is a horrible place to be

So it wasn’t a salary issue and the trade could have been done without OG. Cleared that up.

Barnes was the most valuable asset in either package. A proven top 5 pick, RotY with star upside is far better than 26 year old Bridges, far out picks and a couple swaps. That’s the best return the Nets could have hoped for for a disgruntled KD at the time. The raptors wouldn’t have had to give up additional picks. Trent is also younger than both Cam/Mikal and probably have positive trade value. If Masai wanted Durant, we would have gotten him. He didn’t have the balls to do it and went for Poeltl instead. Funny that trade was still doable and we could have had FVV-OG-KD-Siakam-Poeltl which is insanely good.

We were in the discussion for KD in the summer when they were ineligible to be traded.

Also - if we trade all our picks for KD we are unable to get Poeltl.

KD was NEVER a realistic option. Especially on Jan 15 when we were 19-24 and trading away Barnes + all your future picks + additional salary would have resulted in no depth, no picks, and not even 5 startable players.

In your theroretical our SL would have been FVV/OG/Siakam/KD/Achiwua with a bench of Flynn, one of Thad/Boucher/Otto, Will Barton, Juancho, and Koloko?

Like it just wasn't a real option man.

[Thaddy]

The Pacers aren't really proven. The Bucks team without Giannis is play-in tier.

[PhilBlackson]

Kyrie is poetry in motion.

It's crazy the control he has over every movement he makes. I can't stand the arrogant & jaded part of his personality but damn he's just incredible to watch. He's not going off or anything lol but it just feels like every game there's a few plays he makes where you have to be in awe in the level of creativity & skill he has.

He's gonna have one of THE best career HL's ever, it's crazy what he does with the ball in his hands sometimes.

[DelAbbot]

Unless we draft another Jokic with one of indy's picks, this will go down as an all time worst trade ever in nba history.

We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffen before it's too late! - PhilBlackson

Time for a new thread NinjaBro. I support you this time and I'm serious