GSW - TOR: Warriors salary dump while staying competitive

[MiamiSPX]

I don't mind the concept, because we need a big wing defender and we don't need cap space until the summer of 2027, when Wiggins' deal expires. His expiring could be a useful trade chip at the 2026-27 deadline.

But it has to be worth it for us. Especially if the plan is to clear cap space to bring him in with little going back to the Warriors (except McDaniels for sure). Moody is absolutely not enough to save the Warriors, what, $200 mill in tax over the life of the contract.

Exactly this. I am not against it as long as GS pays us for this, and pays us bigtime. Moving Wiggins benefits GS way, way, way more than it benefits the Raptors.

[Morris_Shatford]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

[Scase]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I was mentioning earlier that Wiggins alone is a FRP, Moody isn't enough. I wonder with them being embarrassed by the Kings if they are a bit more desperate.

At a 2026 FRP top 5 protected, and it's worth it. Especially since he's likely an expiring by the time we truly want to compete.

[Merit]

It's dampened my evening even contemplating the team trying to acquire Wiggins. Though maybe he turns things around and plays well here, I don't even really know what his issues are.

And that’s the point. If we don’t know, we should probably refrain from commenting. If this trade comes to pass, I’m going to assume that the front office has a better understanding of what is happening with wigs and the type of support he needs. Unlike other assumptions, that one is more likely to stand up to scrutiny.

Your sig says it all. You know very little about basketball.

First you make a comment about nothing. Then you resort to personal attacks. Why don’t you instead choose to explain why my perspective is one you disagree with? Bring some stats and evidence too.

Yeah, I do believe in Masai. He brought us a chip. Only thing you’re bringing is a hot take with no substance.

[Merit]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I think we would be discussing it if he wasn’t Canadian, but the storyline wouldn’t be as appealing. Is wiggins the only choice? No. If the Raps get someone better - all good. Would I rather have wiggins than GTJ? Absolutely. Would it be cool if we had both for depth reasons? For sure.

If I’ve learned anything about the Raptors it’s that they are all about value. I believe wiggins contract expires when Scottie is due for a raise. He can take a hometown discount or leave.

Masai identified backup PG, a wing defender and a backup big as targets. All could come via the draft, but Wiggins redemption arc in Toronto is a storyline worth considering.

[Drakeem]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

Yes? He's still wing depth, and we get a decent 3 and D prospect along with some second rounders we can add as a sweetner for a deal. Not saying we should take it, but I don't think it's not worth a thought.

[tecumseh18]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I think we would be discussing it if he wasn’t Canadian, but the storyline wouldn’t be as appealing. Is wiggins the only choice? No. If the Raps get someone better - all good. Would I rather have wiggins than GTJ? Absolutely. Would it be cool if we had both for depth reasons? For sure.

If I’ve learned anything about the Raptors it’s that they are all about value. I believe wiggins contract expires when Scottie is due for a raise. He can take a hometown discount or leave.

Masai identified backup PG, a wing defender and a backup big as targets. All could come via the draft, but Wiggins redemption arc in Toronto is a storyline worth considering.

Gotta admit, the RJ turnaround makes this seem more enticing (as long as Warriors give us Moody AND a FRP). Perhaps there's something about home cooking that helps Toronto-area athletes.

[ArthurVandelay]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I think we would be discussing it if he wasn’t Canadian, but the storyline wouldn’t be as appealing. Is wiggins the only choice? No. If the Raps get someone better - all good. Would I rather have wiggins than GTJ? Absolutely. Would it be cool if we had both for depth reasons? For sure.

If I’ve learned anything about the Raptors it’s that they are all about value. I believe wiggins contract expires when Scottie is due for a raise. He can take a hometown discount or leave.

Masai identified backup PG, a wing defender and a backup big as targets. All could come via the draft, but Wiggins redemption arc in Toronto is a storyline worth considering.

Gotta admit, the RJ turnaround makes this seem more enticing (as long as Warriors give us Moody AND a pick). Perhaps there's something about home cooking that helps Toronto-area athletes.

I asked previously, but no response. I’ll try again…

Does anyone know where his dad is living these days? Is he in the GTA?

I thought I heard his family had moved to Minny after he was drafted.

Reason I ask is because if the leaves of absence are related to his dad, being close to his dad full time might eliminate those leaves. Plus being close to him would take a weight off his mind. But if his dad isn’t in the GTA, then that idea/thinking is for naught.

[tdotrep2]

If we could get wiggins + moody for the detroit pick I'd do it... not sure if the warriors would tho.

[Morris_Shatford]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

Yes? He's still wing depth, and we get a decent 3 and D prospect along with some second rounders we can add as a sweetner for a deal. Not saying we should take it, but I don't think it's not worth a thought.

I am not particularly oppose to Wiggins, I just think the value is unappealing.

Lets take the "who" out for a second;
In this scenario the Raps are taking on around 86m in salary over three years in the face of a punishing CBA for teams over the tax and are getting a prospect you get for a season before you have to pay or walk away from, and a pair a seconds.

I am simply saying that if the Raps are looking to take on that sort long term salary on contract(s) that aren't exactly great, I feel like we could likely do better than a prospect with a year left on his rookie deal and some seconds.

[DreamTeam09]

GS cannot aggregate salary with another player.
All deals would have to be one for one, they would have to attach picks to get off of salary.

[HiJiNX]

It's dampened my evening even contemplating the team trying to acquire Wiggins. Though maybe he turns things around and plays well here, I don't even really know what his issues are.

And that’s the point. If we don’t know, we should probably refrain from commenting. If this trade comes to pass, I’m going to assume that the front office has a better understanding of what is happening with wigs and the type of support he needs. Unlike other assumptions, that one is more likely to stand up to scrutiny.

Your sig says it all. You know very little about basketball.

Let’s play nice y’all. Let’s be respectful please.

[Zeno]

GS cannot aggregate salary with another player.
All deals would have to be one for one, they would have to attach picks to get off of salary.

With Paul and Klay’s number’s coming off the books, they are nowhere near the 2nd apron so they can put salaries together in trade this offseason, lower their salary commitments further and then perhaps resign Klay or Paul if they want to though obviously at greatly reduced rates. Dumping Poole’s contract really saved their ass.

[DreamTeam09]

GS cannot aggregate salary with another player.
All deals would have to be one for one, they would have to attach picks to get off of salary.

With Paul and Klay’s number’s coming off the books, they are nowhere near the 2nd apron so they can put salaries together in trade this offseason, lower their salary commitments further and then perhaps resign Klay or Paul if they want to though obviously at greatly reduced rates. Dumping Poole’s contract really saved their ass.

.I got that info from Bobby marks, maybe he was talking about pre-draft trades.

[Zeno]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I was mentioning earlier that Wiggins alone is a FRP, Moody isn't enough. I wonder with them being embarrassed by the Kings if they are a bit more desperate.

At a 2026 FRP top 5 protected, and it's worth it. Especially since he's likely an expiring by the time we truly want to compete.

Let’s say we keep the pick this year and draft Clingan and then at the draft trade Yak to GS for Wiggins, Moody and a top 6 protected 2025. Would you do that trade?

[mihaic]

I'd rather try to sign Oubre, but he will probably stay with sixers. They have cap space.

I liked his game for a long time now. He plays hard.

[anotherhomer]

bruce brown for Wiggins plus moses moody makes a lot of sense, but i doubt warriors do it

inversely, wiggins plus pick for bruce brown makes a lot of sense too

[HangTime]

Brown,
McDaniels,
Boucher

For

Paul,
Wiggins,
2025 FRP,
option to swap either our own or Indiana's 2026 FRP
with theirs

Maybe Paul can teach our guards some things, and then we buy him out after training camp, if he wants out.

[Landomar]

It looks like Golden State just has to let Chris Paul and Klay Thompson come off the books. Without those two, they have a nine man roster that is comfortably below the luxury tax.

Curry / Payton
Podziemski / Moody
Wiggins
Green / Kuminga
Jackson-Davis / Looney
= 142 million + 11 million for 6 minimum contracts, so let's call it 153 million

The luxury tax threshold is around 171 million. That gives them 18 to 20 million in flexibility. If Klay Thompson accepts a contract for a lower number than that, then they literally just have to let Chris Paul walk and they are fine.

[Scase]

If Wiggins wasn't Canadian would we even be discussing this?

I am not against the idea of taking on bad salary in exchange for assets, but Moody and a pair of seconds for three more years of Wiggins at 26, 28, and 30m isn't exactly the most enticing offer or best use of expiring contracts and future cap space.

I was mentioning earlier that Wiggins alone is a FRP, Moody isn't enough. I wonder with them being embarrassed by the Kings if they are a bit more desperate.

At a 2026 FRP top 5 protected, and it's worth it. Especially since he's likely an expiring by the time we truly want to compete.

Let’s say we keep the pick this year and draft Clingan and then at the draft trade Yak to GS for Wiggins, Moody and a top 6 protected 2025. Would you do that trade?

I would do that so fast GSWs entire FOs heads would spin.