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Re: Top 2009 free agents 

Post#21 » by pspot » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:02 pm

nano_makaveli wrote:i say we re-sign marion and parker to a vet min, and sign the best SG we can get, parker would be great off the bench,

Calderon/Ukic
Gordon/Parker
Marion/Kapono
Bosh/Golden Graham ( Marion)
Bargs/ Jawai


is that possible? my understanding was basically if we resign marion and aren't under the cap we can use the MLE. if we let Marion walk we have cap space but no MLE.

So basically we would have to resign Marion and then Gordon comes for the full MLE which ain't happening

I think our cap space is going to be about 8 to 10 million, is that correct?
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Post#22 » by Paperclip » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:04 pm

Ugly crop, hopefully we can make a trade to take on a bigger contract like Butler.
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Post#23 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:05 pm

Gordon and Marion (if he willing to sign to a reasonable contract). Rasho would be a top priority too though.
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Post#24 » by E-TRAK » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:09 pm

why is Kwame Brown on the list lol
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Post#25 » by miruss2001 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:13 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Millsap

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Post#26 » by whiterasta80 » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:16 pm

Marvin, then J-Craw (if/when he opts out), then Marion, then Gordon. Too bad we don't get to use the MLE as well, because I'm pretty sure there will be some good talent getting stuck with the MLE this summer.
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Re: Top 2009 free agents 

Post#27 » by Indiana Jones » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:50 pm

i bet we don't get a single player on that list. BC will sign a euro.
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Post#28 » by SkywalkerAC » Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:52 pm

Marion
Joey
Delfino
Rasho

sign them all. draft a 2 or combo gaurd.
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Post#29 » by Carnage » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:01 pm

The only guys that interest me are Millsap and Williams. Millsap would be a good choice as it'll allow us to trade Bosh. Marvin Williams still has potential although I don't think he's the type of player that you can classify as ever being the premier talent on a championship team (Bosh also falls in this category).
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Post#30 » by gofret » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:04 pm

TURKOGLU anyone? i know hes old but he can create his own shot,handle the ball,rebound,hit the trey etc etc.if he was 2-3 years younger,he would be perfect fit IMO
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Post#31 » by Local_NG_Idiot » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:09 pm

pspot wrote:is that possible? my understanding was basically if we resign marion and aren't under the cap we can use the MLE. if we let Marion walk we have cap space but no MLE.

So basically we would have to resign Marion and then Gordon comes for the full MLE which ain't happening

I think our cap space is going to be about 8 to 10 million, is that correct?


And there's the rub with this deal. If the raps release everyone they can (Marion, Parker, Joey, Jawai, Solomon, & Voskhul) that leaves the raps with:

Bosh, Bargs, Jose, Kapono, Banks, Hump, Ukic and this years 1st round pick (8 players) which their salaries end up at 46mil give or take 1/2 a mil depending on where the 1st rounder lands.

High side of the 09-10 projected cap is 61-62 million, low side 59-60 depending on revenues, the economy, and player salaries (remember there are quite a few very big contracts expiring this year and those players won't get 1/2 what they make now).

So, all that said the Raps could have anywhere from 13 - 16 million.

But wait, if you execise Joey's qualifying offer that adds 3.4million to the 46 which brings down the cap amount to between 9.5 & 12.5

IF Marion resigns for say 8 and Joey is still here that will leave 1.5 to 4.5 mill to sign 2 more players to make the minimum 12 man roster.

Here's the kicker now, IF you re-sign Marion to say 12 a year and keep Joey, the MLE and LLE kick in. So if BC overpays Marion, they have more money to actually sign those last 2 players.

Why do you think Marion is open to re-signing here all of a sudden?
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Post#32 » by 99 Problems » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:18 pm

12 a year for Marion is way way too much.. We should try to re-sign him for something more reasonable like 8-9 per at most..

If we could somehow move up by packaging some of our other assets like maybe Jose+ our pick to nab Harden, I would be all for it..

Ukic (Or vet PG)/Banks
Harden/Delfino
Marion/Graham
Bosh/Hump
Bargnani/Backup cheap vet

+Messina and his system

That doesn't really look that good but I think that's the best we could do if BC wants to build around Bosh AND keep Bargnani.. Trading either Bosh or Bargs would flood our lineup with more talent and/or young pieces though..

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