Raptors Preseason Stats (updated)

[Grizzled]

Dude, Cognitive Dissonance

And by that I guess you're saying that you didn't understand my post?

I'm just saying you need to take a good hard look at your thought process, trashing Jack to justify your man love for Calderon is not fair and it doesn't make Calderon look like a better than mediocre player, which is what he really is.

Ah, so what you're saying is that you don't like me speaking truth and showing facts that debunk the bogus spin you're trying to create. I can see how the way Jack has played this preseason must be very inconvenient for you.

[Avenger]

why don't you read up on the link i gave and think about this whole Calderon vs Jack issue for a second.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Let’s review our history with Belinelli. We liked him even before his draft year. We tried to make a trade to get a pick to take him. This summer we got a chance to pick him up in a trade and we took it. If we didn’t still believe in him we wouldn’t have picked him up, and even if he’d had a bad preseason, which he hasn’t, we wouldn’t be giving up on him yet.

Weems has had a very good preseason, but he has a lot to prove. I think he’s earned a spot on the bench but I doubt that he has graded out better than Belinelli overall so far, and even if he did we wouldn’t move him ahead of Belinelli based on a few preseason games any more than we’d move him ahead of DeRozan.

I definitely put in my own editorial and tried to back it up only a little bit. I'm not sure what you mean by 'our' history with Belinelli, though. That isn't my history with him. Speak for yourself. My point with the Araujo example was that a lot of teams like a lot of prospects and it means absolutely nothing once they get to the NBA.

Neither Weems nor Belinelli has proven squat. Would the Raptors have given Weems any minutes in preseason if they didn't believe in him, too? Belinelli, so far in the NBA, has been terrible. Weems hasn't shown anything, either. This preseason, Belinelli continues to be terrible and Weems has shown some interesting flashes. Honestly, I think Wright will beat them both out, but Belinelli hasn't earned anything in the NBA at all.

[Shaazzam]

Bellinelli is a gambler, and it breaks down our defence.

He looks like a cat who is always looking to hit the homerun, that pass to no one last night was worthy of high school, and he needs to become a more solid fundamental player.

He's got game. He looks to be an excellent finisher, and he can play some defence. But he needs to refine his game and not take short cuts. He is consistently looking to poke away the ball from behind, rather than trying to keep his man in front of him. It's lazy, just like consistently leaning on his jumpers.

Weems looks okay, but as his minutes get prolonged, he gets exposed. And that's what happens to bench players. I do like him though. He's a good spark.

Jack's handle is shaky, it's not tight enough to be a starter but he's excellent coming off the bench. I'm not worried about him either.

Jose will come around. I think he's going to light it up this year.

IMO Wright will supplant Beli on the regular rotation, but Belli will have his uses. He just needs to tighten up and he could be a real nice player. It's all in his head.

[supersub15]

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                     G    TS%     Reb%    AST%   ORtg    PER
Chris Bosh, PF       5   0.573   13.19    7.83   103.1   17.1
Reggie Evans, PF     5   0.537   17.33    9.26   101.1   16.8
Amir Johnson, PF     7   0.540   21.12    7.44   107.7   16.0
Andrea Bargnani, FC  7   0.612   10.05   11.14   104.9   15.3
Sonny Weems, SG      7   0.557    7.93   12.21   105.7   14.4
Jose Calderon, PG    7   0.582    5.99   26.54   117.1   14.1
Hedo Turkoglu, SF    3   0.609    7.19   32.60   103.4   13.7
Patrick O'Bryant, C  7   0.563   16.22    1.87   105.6   12.5
Marcus Banks, PG     5   0.607    2.43   26.75   102.4   11.6
DeMar DeRozan, F     7   0.512    5.60    4.39   103.3    9.8
Jarrett Jack, G      7   0.428    6.98   29.77    85.7    9.4
Marco Belinelli, SG  7   0.468    4.36   15.80    92.8    9.3
Rasho Nesterovic, C  6   0.354   14.81    7.77    85.1    7.9
Quincy Douby, SG     6   0.326    2.89   25.97    70.7    2.7


My 2 cents:
- I'm not sure when, but I hope Jack and Belinelli wake up, and soon.
- Calderon is who he is. Expecting him to change is not going to happen. His Usage Rate is 14.4, despite being one of the best shooters in the game.
- Douby, on the other hand, has the worst TS% on the team, but uses 24% of the possessions when he's on the floor. How convenient!
- Amir is a beast on the board.
- Turk is rounding into form, but 1 FTA in 3 games?
- Rasho is done. Stick a fork in him.

[ansoncarter]

He won't get away with the Kobe role in the NBA because he isn't good enough and I'm not sure he is able to play any other role.

makes a lot of players in the league kind of useless. Style only fits a role reserved for allstars

but I think belinelli can contribute, even start, for no other reason than he hits 3s. Thats all we really need from sg since hudo/bosh/bargs will have the ball all the time. Once the season starts you won't see weems and derozan getting all these plays like they do in preseason. Just aren't efficient plays

[cdel00]

Stat of the preseason 35 FTAs / last 5 games for Double D, 7 FTA/game!

41 FGA / 35 FTA

[distracted]

- Calderon is who he is. Expecting him to change is not going to happen. His Usage Rate is 14.4, despite being one of the best shooters in the game.
- Amir is a beast on the board.

While Caldy is who he is, his PER the last few years has been well above average hasn't it? This is NOT who he is!

Amir may just be what we always wanted Hump to be. He crashes the boards with abandon and never takes a jumper. He also blocks shots! If this guy performs this year hopefully we can sign him to a mid-level deal long term to be our third big during the BB era.

[D-Wins-RingsIMO]

Douby's gonna be unemployed soon.

I'm not worried about Marco's shot coming around but I'm a bit worried about Jack.

I can't wait to see Amir play in real games to see if this is a mirage or we're onto something.

[supersub15]

While Caldy is who he is, his PER the last few years has been well above average hasn't it? This is NOT who he is!

He is who he is in the sense that he doesn't take advantage of his prime ability: shooting! Check his Usage Rate for the last 3 years...

[gerrit4]

Stat of the preseason 35 FTAs / last 5 games for Double D, 7 FTA/game!

41 FGA / 35 FTA

I totally agree. It's something this team has missed for years. If he can get even 5 FTAs a game I'd be thrilled.

[ska]

I totally agree. It's something this team has missed for years. If he can get even 5 FTAs a game I'd be thrilled.

Agreed.
Then, if he can hit 80 % of those I will be happy

[ATLTimekeeper]

I think in general Weems has outplayed DD, but DeRozan looks more more comfortable and poised in the half-court offense. He's getting to the line because he's decisive, and he's confident enough to accept failure. Weems needs the open floor to be effective. Definitely something there, though. I hope they don't give up on him, because he's shown more than Douby and POB and they both got extended looks.

Belinelli is being misused right now.

Rasho's here more for defense and a veteran presence than anything.