The Starting Lineup Needs To Be Changed Once Again

basketball royalty · Post #21 » by **basketball royalty** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:02 am

I'd just go back to having JJ start. It has worked this season and it can work again. Triano should stop being a flake, you don't just fiddle with your lineup leading to the playoffs which we will make.

For the rest of y'all, great idea to sit 3 thirds of your starting lineup, that will solve everything!

Post #22 » by **Geddy** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:03 am

Start Banks and Weems. That is all.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #23 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:04 am

id actually likely leave Bargnani in. ONly because hes emotionally screwed up to the point where he will never play the same if you challenge him.

Jack
Wright
Hedo
Bosh
Bargnani

is my lineup against denver.

Post #24 » by **Undefeated** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:06 am

LOL @ Wright starting. The only player to start at SG should be Sonny.

Strategist1 · Post #25 » by **Strategist1** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:07 am

It might sound crazy...

But I think our 2nd unit can beat our starting 5 ... (Bosh being the only guy that gives the starting unit a chance)

In a best of 7 our bench will beat our starters..based on grit, hustle and energy.

Bench of Weems, Wright, Jack, Banks, Amir, Evans... Rasho and Beli as utility guys

Will beat

Turk, Bosh, BArgs, DD, Jose...

If not, it'd be really close.

basketball royalty · Post #26 » by **basketball royalty** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:08 am

Strategist1 wrote:It might sound crazy...

But I think our 2nd unit can beat our starting 5 ... (Bosh being the only guy that gives the starting unit a chance)

In a best of 7 our bench will beat our starters..based on grit, hustle and energy.

Bench of Weems, Wright, Jack, Banks, Amir, Evans... Rasho and Beli as utility guys

Will beat

Turk, Bosh, BArgs, DD, Jose...

If not, it'd be really close.

Go to a Raptors practice and find out.

John F Kennedy · Post #27 » by **John F Kennedy** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:32 am

You can try 1000 different combinations of the starting lineup, not going to change much, maybe they get lucky one day that's all.

ponder276 · Post #28 » by **ponder276** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:52 am

I actually do agree with Jack/Wright/Hedo/Amir/Bosh as our starting lineup. Still have great shooting from everyone except Amir, our defense is miles better, and I think Bosh/Hedo/Jack can keep our offense strong. I'd try to limit Jose's and Bags' minutes in general, but against bench players their defensive issues would be less of a concern.

TheBat · Post #29 » by **TheBat** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:56 pm

Let's live in the real world for a minute. No team that is currently in the playoff picture will make 3 changes to the starting lineup with 12 games left in the season. At most I can see Wright for DD. But that's about it.

Post #30 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:59 pm

You need Jack and Wright in for one single reason. Defense. Two guys who preach defense, talk defense.

I know I know, the numbers don't support Wright. But it's a mindset..its a message. We have to start installing "Defense gets you playing time"... and actually follow that mantra.

Post #31 » by **Undefeated** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:18 pm

Duffman100 wrote:You need Jack and Wright in for one single reason. Defense. Two guys who preach defense, talk defense.

I know I know, the numbers don't support Wright. But it's a mindset..its a message. We have to start installing "Defense gets you playing time"... and actually follow that mantra.

The numbers don't support Jarrett as a good defender either.

xxPrimierxx · Post #32 » by **xxPrimierxx** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:58 pm

Jack
Wright
Hedo
Bosh
Rasho

Let the young guns come our and feast on the second unit. FAST BREAK!

Calderon
DeRozan
Weems
Amir
Bargnani

dacrusha · Post #33 » by **dacrusha** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:01 pm

Duffman100 wrote:You need Jack and Wright in for one single reason. Defense. Two guys who preach defense, talk defense.

I know I know, the numbers don't support Wright. But it's a mindset..its a message. We have to start installing "Defense gets you playing time"... and actually follow that mantra.

Good idea, except Jack doesn't play defense either.

Williams had 3 blow-bys vs. Jack immediately after Jack subbed Jose in the 1st quarter last night.

xxPrimierxx · Post #34 » by **xxPrimierxx** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:08 pm

dacrusha wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:You need Jack and Wright in for one single reason. Defense. Two guys who preach defense, talk defense.

I know I know, the numbers don't support Wright. But it's a mindset..its a message. We have to start installing "Defense gets you playing time"... and actually follow that mantra.

Good idea, except Jack doesn't play defense either.

Williams had 3 blow-bys vs. Jack immediately after Jack subbed Jose in the 1st quarter last night.

Who can stop D-Will from blowing by them..?
Sign that guy to a max deal.
Hell give him 10 Mil even if he can help contain D-Will.

gerrit4 · Post #35 » by **gerrit4** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:09 pm

I'm actually curious if we could bring Hedo off the bench and give him a larger role in the offense.

dacrusha · Post #36 » by **dacrusha** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:11 pm

xxPrimierxx wrote:
dacrusha wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:You need Jack and Wright in for one single reason. Defense. Two guys who preach defense, talk defense.

I know I know, the numbers don't support Wright. But it's a mindset..its a message. We have to start installing "Defense gets you playing time"... and actually follow that mantra.

Good idea, except Jack doesn't play defense either.

Williams had 3 blow-bys vs. Jack immediately after Jack subbed Jose in the 1st quarter last night.

Who can stop D-Will from blowing by them..?
Sign that guy to a max deal.
Hell give him 10 Mil even if he can help contain D-Will.

So, you're saying Jose's defense was fine last night?

xxPrimierxx · Post #37 » by **xxPrimierxx** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:15 pm

[/quote]So, you're saying Jose's defense was fine last night?[/quote]
Nope. Jose's Defense was turrible. Jack did what he could though. Your honestly telling me you had a problem with how Jack performed last night? He did as good a job as anyone else who comes even remotely close to defending D-Will. Heck even CP3, the best defensive PG in the league cant just stop D-Will. Hes too good. Be happy with what you got out of Jack. Jose on the other hand, well.. Nevermind.. I dont want to sound like a broken record.

dacrusha · Post #38 » by **dacrusha** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:21 pm

xxPrimierxx wrote:

So, you're saying Jose's defense was fine last night?[/quote]
Nope. Jose's Defense was turrible. Jack did what he could though. Your honestly telling me you had a problem with how Jack performed last night? He did as good a job as anyone else who comes even remotely close to defending D-Will. Heck even CP3, the best defensive PG in the league cant just stop D-Will. Hes too good. Be happy with what you got out of Jack. Jose on the other hand, well.. Nevermind.. I dont want to sound like a broken record.[/quote]

Jack came in when the lead for the Jazz was at 9 and then it ballooned 14 and then, after Ronnie Price subbed Williams, the lead climbed further to 20.

It only came back down to 11 after Evans and Wright were subbed onto the court.

Are you happy with what Jack provided, because from what I saw, he did nothing to slow down the Jazz PGs.

Kid Canada · Post #39 » by **Kid Canada** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:25 pm

jack, demar, weems, bosh, bargnani - backups banks, bellinelli, wright, amir. **** the rest.

Post #40 » by **Duffman100** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:36 pm

dacrusha wrote:
xxPrimierxx wrote:
So, you're saying Jose's defense was fine last night?

Nope. Jose's Defense was turrible. Jack did what he could though. Your honestly telling me you had a problem with how Jack performed last night? He did as good a job as anyone else who comes even remotely close to defending D-Will. Heck even CP3, the best defensive PG in the league cant just stop D-Will. Hes too good. Be happy with what you got out of Jack. Jose on the other hand, well.. Nevermind.. I dont want to sound like a broken record.[/quote]

Jack came in when the lead for the Jazz was at 9 and then it ballooned 14 and then, after Ronnie Price subbed Williams, the lead climbed further to 20.

It only came back down to 11 after Evans and Wright were subbed onto the court.

Are you happy with what Jack provided, because from what I saw, he did nothing to slow down the Jazz PGs.[/quote]

He's better than Calderon. not by much...but he's better