OKC Thunder Roster Moves And Trade Thread

Post #1221 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 8:38 pm

Copypasta from my T&T post. All FAs are people I think might be MLE candidates.:

As far as realistic targets next year for a shooting guard, outside of betting on Abrines (I think we need to bring him next year if we bring him at all), Dudley is my dream. But Matt Barnes would be useful, Tyler Johnson would be useful if he fits in MLE, Kirk Hinrich is kind of washed but still would likely get minutes. There are other FAs that would be useful but I think they'll get paid more than MLE (e.g. Moore, Galloway, et. al.).

As far as trades, I'd be interested in trying to poach Seth Curry or Justin Holiday as upside guys. Others to go after would be Dunleavy, Wes Johnson, Hollis Thompson. I still like PJ Tucker too. All would be useful contributors at SG/SF.

Thoughts?

Post #1222 » by **bondom34** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:26 pm

dbrandon wrote:Copypasta from my T&T post. All FAs are people I think might be MLE candidates.:

As far as realistic targets next year for a shooting guard, outside of betting on Abrines (I think we need to bring him next year if we bring him at all), Dudley is my dream. But Matt Barnes would be useful, Tyler Johnson would be useful if he fits in MLE, Kirk Hinrich is kind of washed but still would likely get minutes. There are other FAs that would be useful but I think they'll get paid more than MLE (e.g. Moore, Galloway, et. al.).

As far as trades, I'd be interested in trying to poach Seth Curry or Justin Holiday as upside guys. Others to go after would be Dunleavy, Wes Johnson, Hollis Thompson. I still like PJ Tucker too. All would be useful contributors at SG/SF.

Thoughts?

I'd go for Holiday, Dunleavy, Johnson, Tucker, Thompson. Tyler Johnson I think gets more, Barnes if he works in the locker room. Curry and Hinrich I wouldn't be as interested.

Post #1223 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:29 pm

bondom34 wrote:
dbrandon wrote:Copypasta from my T&T post. All FAs are people I think might be MLE candidates.:

As far as realistic targets next year for a shooting guard, outside of betting on Abrines (I think we need to bring him next year if we bring him at all), Dudley is my dream. But Matt Barnes would be useful, Tyler Johnson would be useful if he fits in MLE, Kirk Hinrich is kind of washed but still would likely get minutes. There are other FAs that would be useful but I think they'll get paid more than MLE (e.g. Moore, Galloway, et. al.).

As far as trades, I'd be interested in trying to poach Seth Curry or Justin Holiday as upside guys. Others to go after would be Dunleavy, Wes Johnson, Hollis Thompson. I still like PJ Tucker too. All would be useful contributors at SG/SF.

Thoughts?

I'd go for Holiday, Dunleavy, Johnson, Tucker, Thompson. Tyler Johnson I think gets more, Barnes if he works in the locker room. Curry and Hinrich I wouldn't be as interested.

Any reason why on Curry? Hinrich's kind of a bottom of the barrel signing at this point in his career, but I've seen some potential from Seth.

Post #1224 » by **bondom34** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:33 pm

dbrandon wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
dbrandon wrote:Copypasta from my T&T post. All FAs are people I think might be MLE candidates.:

As far as realistic targets next year for a shooting guard, outside of betting on Abrines (I think we need to bring him next year if we bring him at all), Dudley is my dream. But Matt Barnes would be useful, Tyler Johnson would be useful if he fits in MLE, Kirk Hinrich is kind of washed but still would likely get minutes. There are other FAs that would be useful but I think they'll get paid more than MLE (e.g. Moore, Galloway, et. al.).

As far as trades, I'd be interested in trying to poach Seth Curry or Justin Holiday as upside guys. Others to go after would be Dunleavy, Wes Johnson, Hollis Thompson. I still like PJ Tucker too. All would be useful contributors at SG/SF.

Thoughts?

I'd go for Holiday, Dunleavy, Johnson, Tucker, Thompson. Tyler Johnson I think gets more, Barnes if he works in the locker room. Curry and Hinrich I wouldn't be as interested.

Any reason why on Curry? Hinrich's kind of a bottom of the barrel signing at this point in his career, but I've seen some potential from Seth.

I feel like he's not as good defensively, same w/ Hinrich. Holiday's not either but he's a bit better from what I know of. I still get a weird Jimmer vibe from Curry.

Old Man Game · Post #1225 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Apr 6, 2016 12:49 pm

Was reminded that we convey the pick we traded for Dion this summer. Looks like it'll be around pick 27. I'll be happy to put this behind us.

Pillendreher · Post #1226 » by **Pillendreher** » Wed Apr 6, 2016 4:20 pm

We convey? What does that mean?

Old Man Game · Post #1227 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Apr 6, 2016 11:56 pm

The irony of Perkins implicitly bringing up the fact that we haven't won it all yet and therefore KD may leave, despite his play (and playing time) in 2012 being a very direct reason we lost that series, is just too much.

Old Man Game · Post #1228 » by **Old Man Game** » Wed Apr 6, 2016 11:57 pm

Pillendreher wrote:We convey? What does that mean?

It's given to the recipient. Last year we didn't convey it because under the terms of the deal it stayed with us if we landed in picks 1-18. This year the protection is 1-14 I believe but it doesn't matter because its going.

Pillendreher · Post #1229 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 8:36 pm

Wizards pulling out all the stops. LMAO

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CSNWizards/status/718111656530874369[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/718117322607738880[/tweet]

Perk trolling the league.

Bergmaniac · Post #1230 » by **Bergmaniac** » Thu Apr 7, 2016 11:23 pm

I understand the power of wishful thinking, but you got to be a special kind of idiot to have believed that Perkins was serious about the non-disclosure agreement.

Marcus50 · Post #1231 » by **Marcus50** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 12:06 am

If Perk is right and KD goes what does the team look like next season. Who would be available to fill the void

realEAST · Post #1232 » by **realEAST** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 1:18 pm

bondom34 wrote:
dbrandon wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I'd go for Holiday, Dunleavy, Johnson, Tucker, Thompson. Tyler Johnson I think gets more, Barnes if he works in the locker room. Curry and Hinrich I wouldn't be as interested.

Any reason why on Curry? Hinrich's kind of a bottom of the barrel signing at this point in his career, but I've seen some potential from Seth.

I feel like he's not as good defensively, same w/ Hinrich. Holiday's not either but he's a bit better from what I know of. I still get a weird Jimmer vibe from Curry.

Seth Curry would probably be available through FA, he has PO on min deal, surly he opts out after good ending to the season. But doubts about his D are justified. On the other hand, he doesn't seem unintelligent, he could be useful in decent system, and besides him all other Thunder starters are great defenders (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Adams), I think they could spare one Curry in the line up, as long as he doesn't forget the man he is guarding is actually playing like Waiters tends to do.

Post #1233 » by **bondom34** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 1:25 pm

realEAST wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
dbrandon wrote:
Any reason why on Curry? Hinrich's kind of a bottom of the barrel signing at this point in his career, but I've seen some potential from Seth.

I feel like he's not as good defensively, same w/ Hinrich. Holiday's not either but he's a bit better from what I know of. I still get a weird Jimmer vibe from Curry.

Seth Curry would probably be available through FA, he has PO on min deal, surly he opts out after good ending to the season. But doubts about his D are justified. On the other hand, he doesn't seem unintelligent, he could be useful in decent system, and besides him all other Thunder starters are great defenders (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Adams), I think they could spare one Curry in the line up, as long as he doesn't forget the man he is guarding is actually playing like Waiters tends to do.

Yeah, on second thought I'd probably take him, if nothing else he's not Waiters.

Post #1234 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 2:56 pm

bondom34 wrote:
realEAST wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I feel like he's not as good defensively, same w/ Hinrich. Holiday's not either but he's a bit better from what I know of. I still get a weird Jimmer vibe from Curry.

Seth Curry would probably be available through FA, he has PO on min deal, surly he opts out after good ending to the season. But doubts about his D are justified. On the other hand, he doesn't seem unintelligent, he could be useful in decent system, and besides him all other Thunder starters are great defenders (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Adams), I think they could spare one Curry in the line up, as long as he doesn't forget the man he is guarding is actually playing like Waiters tends to do.

Yeah, on second thought I'd probably take him, if nothing else he's not Waiters.

If nothing else he's stuck better than Jimmer has.

I follow a lot of Sacramento basketball, so I've seen a decent amount of coverage on him. His emergence has been one of the few bright spots in yet another lost season.

realEAST · Post #1235 » by **realEAST** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 3:35 pm

dbrandon wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
realEAST wrote:
Seth Curry would probably be available through FA, he has PO on min deal, surly he opts out after good ending to the season. But doubts about his D are justified. On the other hand, he doesn't seem unintelligent, he could be useful in decent system, and besides him all other Thunder starters are great defenders (Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Adams), I think they could spare one Curry in the line up, as long as he doesn't forget the man he is guarding is actually playing like Waiters tends to do.

Yeah, on second thought I'd probably take him, if nothing else he's not Waiters.

If nothing else he's stuck better than Jimmer has.

I follow a lot of Sacramento basketball, so I've seen a decent amount of coverage on him. His emergence has been one of the few bright spots in yet another lost season.

I don't know why, but I think he'll end up in GS with brother. Warriors have a lot of bench players expiring, and Curry might be good sub for Barbosa. Especially since I think he'd do a bit of a favor, like taking mini MLE deal - 2mil per year for two years - ant then sign a 6 mil per year deal on early Bird rights

Marcus50 · Post #1236 » by **Marcus50** » Fri Apr 8, 2016 10:17 pm

OKC does not have a problem at center next year. Adams remains on a cheap contract and between him and Kanter they provide solid role players and are both young.
Assuming KD re signs on a 1+1 we still are weak at back up PF back up SF and shooting Guard. We have Russ and cam payne at PG which is solid.

Have we the cap space to fix it, not so sure

spearsy23 · Post #1237 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 7:26 am

If we hadn't signed Singler to that stupid contract we could be looking at almost 13 million in cap space, instead we are limited to resigning Waiters or going bottom of the barrel.

Pillendreher · Post #1238 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:58 am

And if you take away Kanter's contract, we could have signed a (real) max player...

spearsy23 · Post #1239 » by **spearsy23** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 5:16 pm

Pillendreher wrote:And if you take away Kanter's contract, we could have signed a (real) max player...

Kanter isn't a bad contract though, and he actually provides some value to the team. Singler was a headscrastcher from day one.

Pillendreher · Post #1240 » by **Pillendreher** » Sat Apr 9, 2016 8:48 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:And if you take away Kanter's contract, we could have signed a (real) max player...

Kanter isn't a bad contract though, and he actually provides some value to the team. Singler was a headscrastcher from day one.

The jury is still out on that contract. Giving a max contract to a clear negative player is a bad move in my opinion. If Presti manages to trade him for a good piece, it's OK I guess. Given his track record, I sincerely doubt that tho.