OKC Thunder 2022-23 Regular Season Discussion

Post #1641 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:49 pm

nothing crazy from Presti's interview..don't think we will make significant moves. He's still open for business of course

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Post #1642 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:55 pm

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Devilanche · Post #1643 » by **Devilanche** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:32 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:nothing crazy from Presti's interview..don't think we will make significant moves. He's still open for business of course

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One thing we are is making promises at the draft .
Another thing we are is drafting someone that plays overseas in Oceania.

Wonder if that’s an overlap this draft .

jake_swivel · Post #1644 » by **jake_swivel** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:17 pm

What big contracts are there that we could Kemba this offseason? Bonus points if it’s a PF.

Post #1645 » by **Dadouv47** » Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:25 pm

jake_swivel wrote:What big contracts are there that we could Kemba this offseason? Bonus points if it’s a PF.

Ben Simmons but no reason for the Nets to give up significant value

Bertans is another option even if his contract isn't that terrible since not totally guaranteed in 2024-2025.

Post #1646 » by **ThunderBolt** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:56 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:

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Maybe but he also all but outright said that there was no reason to extend Dort before the start of last season.

Post #1647 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:04 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:

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Maybe but he also all but outright said that there was no reason to extend Dort before the start of last season.

yeah I love Presti's interviews because he's a smart guy but I never take anything he says very seriously.

Xatticus · Post #1648 » by **Xatticus** » Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:40 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:What big contracts are there that we could Kemba this offseason? Bonus points if it’s a PF.

Ben Simmons but no reason for the Nets to give up significant value

Bertans is another option even if his contract isn't that terrible since not totally guaranteed in 2024-2025.

If Harden really does bolt in the summer, then Philly might chase something big and they might need to dump Harris to get it done. They might otherwise risk wasting a year of Embiid's prime.

Nurkic might get dumped if Lillard asks out, but they could sit on his contract as well. I doubt they'd be willing to pay anyone to take him despite the length of his deal, but if they dumped him, he could be useful for us. Perhaps Philly chases Lillard if Harden heads to Houston?

I'm sure Dallas would love to dump Bertans, but they just can't afford to pay enough to make it worthwhile, so unless you actually value Bertans, then I don't see the point.

I have no idea what Charlotte is doing, but there isn't really any reason for Hayward to finish out his contract there, so perhaps he could be had for free, but I doubt they'd attach value to move him. He would probably be useful for us?

Post #1649 » by **Dadouv47** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:55 pm

Xatticus wrote:
Dadouv47 wrote:
jake_swivel wrote:What big contracts are there that we could Kemba this offseason? Bonus points if it’s a PF.

Ben Simmons but no reason for the Nets to give up significant value

Bertans is another option even if his contract isn't that terrible since not totally guaranteed in 2024-2025.

If Harden really does bolt in the summer, then Philly might chase something big and they might need to dump Harris to get it done. They might otherwise risk wasting a year of Embiid's prime.

Nurkic might get dumped if Lillard asks out, but they could sit on his contract as well. I doubt they'd be willing to pay anyone to take him despite the length of his deal, but if they dumped him, he could be useful for us. Perhaps Philly chases Lillard if Harden heads to Houston?

I'm sure Dallas would love to dump Bertans, but they just can't afford to pay enough to make it worthwhile, so unless you actually value Bertans, then I don't see the point.

I have no idea what Charlotte is doing, but there isn't really any reason for Hayward to finish out his contract there, so perhaps he could be had for free, but I doubt they'd attach value to move him. He would probably be useful for us?

Bertans contract is only 5 millions guaranteed in 2024-2025 so it's not that terrible. 21 millions total to pay him but only one painful season for cap space so I think he can easily be moved to a rebuilding team for a lotto protected FRP. Dallas could probably get a good role player for Bertans + pick #10.

I don't want Hayward at all but I have always been low on him. Don't get the fit either tbh.

Post #1650 » by **Dadouv47** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 pm

Mark 2nd COY, Shai 2nd MIP; JDub 2nd ROY. We deserve the 2nd pick in the 2023 draft !

Devilanche · Post #1651 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:25 am

Cant argue with that logic

jake_swivel · Post #1652 » by **jake_swivel** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:11 pm

Kawhi is probably going to play about 20 games next year and will be a year older with a degenerative quad condition. Clippers don’t have space to sign anyone while having the oldest roster in the league. They can offer Russ 120% of the minimum, so he’s gone. PG is injury prone. That roster has dealt with disappointment after disappointment while overachieving. That disappointment is going to turn down their motivation. There will be dissension and finger pointing.

The wheels are going to come off.

Post #1653 » by **Dadouv47** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:31 pm

jake_swivel wrote:Kawhi is probably going to play about 20 games next year and will be a year older with a degenerative quad condition. Clippers don’t have space to sign anyone while having the oldest roster in the league. They can offer Russ 120% of the minimum, so he’s gone. PG is injury prone. That roster has dealt with disappointment after disappointment while overachieving. That disappointment is going to turn down their motivation. There will be dissension and finger pointing.

The wheels are going to come off.

I think Russ will stay in LAC.

Clippers were 7th seed without Kawhi last season and PG13 hurt most of the season so time will tell. Obviously our pick could be good but I don't think they are gonna be terrible either.

jake_swivel · Post #1654 » by **jake_swivel** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:01 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:I think Russ will stay in LAC.

Clippers were 7th seed without Kawhi last season and PG13 hurt most of the season so time will tell. Obviously our pick could be good but I don't think they are gonna be terrible either.

I think Russ liked playing for the clippers. I will be very surprised if he’s willing to leave $10 million + on the table to continue that experience.

Devilanche · Post #1655 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:19 pm

jake_swivel wrote:Kawhi is probably going to play about 20 games next year and will be a year older with a degenerative quad condition. Clippers don’t have space to sign anyone while having the oldest roster in the league. They can offer Russ 120% of the minimum, so he’s gone. PG is injury prone. That roster has dealt with disappointment after disappointment while overachieving. That disappointment is going to turn down their motivation. There will be dissension and finger pointing.

The wheels are going to come off.

This is assuming the worst in the hope that the pick we have become a high pick. Reality is probably somewhat in the middle . Kahwi plays 35-55 games . PG is somewhat healthy. Even with health concern they will be able to squeak into play in spot at the end when tanking teams want to secure a higher ranking for the draft .

Don’t have high expectation. If we get lucky with the pick , we get lucky.

jake_swivel · Post #1656 » by **jake_swivel** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:13 pm

Devilanche wrote:Don’t have high expectation. If we get lucky with the pick, we get lucky.

Don’t tell me how to live my life!

Devilanche · Post #1657 » by **Devilanche** » Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:45 pm

jake_swivel wrote:
Devilanche wrote:Don’t have high expectation. If we get lucky with the pick, we get lucky.

Don’t tell me how to live my life!

Can’t live it dangerously !

Post #1658 » by **Dadouv47** » Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:19 am

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QPR · Post #1659 » by **QPR** » Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:54 am

Code for "we can't rebuild while OKC owns our picks and we have a new stadium coming"

Old Man Game · Post #1660 » by **Old Man Game** » Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:27 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:This might just be me an average person trying to watch pros, but I wonder if Giddey's really strong enough. Just how much he tries to flick the wrists to get the momentum when he shoots it from three like his arm strength isn't sufficient. Or maybe it's just that he's not fluid enough in the stroke and so it just looks weird. I don't know. It just makes me wonder.

I also wonder if there's anything you can do in his offseason training regimen to try and help his vertical. For a guy as big as he is it's kind of nuts to me how below the rim he is with most of his stuff. All those crap floaters and stuff that bounce off the rim.

Giddey getting stronger seems like a good idea. Suggesting he lacks strength arm strength to get the ball to the basket would mean he has the strength of a teenage girl. I think it’s just a shooting stroke issue. To me he shoot’s like a kid that never adjusted his shot as he grew up and became stronger.

Verticality I’m less optimistic about. The answer to solve Giddey’s below the rim issues is simple, guaranteed to work but no player on earth has been smart enough to use this obvious weapon in decades, the sky hook.

Even D1 college age women shoot a bit like this now that the mention it. It's probably a muscular imbalance or kinetic chain coordination issue or something. I have no doubt he's plenty stout in absolute terms but something is just off there in terms of how clunky it is.

For the same reason I have no confidence Josh could ever come close to using a skyhook which is the smoothest of all basketball moves.