2024 NBA draft

[Kizz Fastfists]

I'd take Sheppard for sure. He's probably got one of the highest floors of anyone in the draft.

I don't think he has the size/length to be a Presti pick. I think right now the best case scenario is Zach Eddy and Tyler Smith. Eddy will be a great center, but that would require Presti being willing to push Chet to PF. The shot blocking of that duo would be insane. Smith is more of a stretch 4 that can play SF at 6'10, although he's a bit more of a long-term project, although he could play a limited bench role as a rookie, which could make him someone Presti would like because of "internal development".

I also think Collier could be a guy Presti would like given his sudden aversion to big men, although he should be gone before OKC has a pick. An interesting draft day trade would be Presti trading up for Topic, who I believe will be the best player out of this draft. A 6'7 PG should be someone Presti finds intriguing. That would probably only happen if Dort and/or Giddey were moved, unless Presti is fully committed to running four combo guards/wings and a center. In which case I think this will be another great Thunder core that never wins a championship because of poor decision making by Presti. Last time Presti avoided shooters and this time it looks like he's avoiding size. A guard rotation of SGA, Cason, Topic and Joe could be great.

[Clav]

Kizz would you select Edey in the mid 1st ? I'd prefer to buy a second if he's available around ~40 for a couple of million.

We've tossed our 24 2nd rounder to HOU, and Houston's 2nd we had to Charlotte. HOU at 8 right now with 1-4 protected and UTA at 11 with a top 10 protection on the pick we have from them. So otherwise, it's... Houston's will likely convey in the top 10, unless the ping pong balls send them to the top-4 picks. Utah's could just plainly not convey this year and it's pushed next.

Anyway I'm still researching about these guys but maybe that big guy Yves Missi, Clingan (though I'm not convinced he'll be healthy, he injured his foot recently), or Ulrich Chomche who I just learned about. He's a target that might be interesting. Honestly Edey's not the worst pick, I'm not gonna fight about it, just think he could be had for a R2 selection, I'm not sure what other teams are valuing him.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Kizz would you select Edey in the mid 1st ? I'd prefer to buy a second if he's available around ~40 for a couple of million.

Yes. I don't think he makes it past pick 20 and should go in the lottery. His improvements in agility this year show his work ethic and commitment. He's only been playing basketball for 5-6 years. The only knock on him is the lack of shooting range and mobility. His mobility is improving and he can continue to improve that and his FT% suggests he can add a solid mid-range game along with a decent 3pt shot. His hook shot and other stuff is coming along nicely. He's a very improved prospect from last season when he would have been a second round pick.

[Devilanche]

We've tossed our 24 2nd rounder to HOU, and Houston's 2nd we had to Charlotte. HOU at 8 right now with 1-4 protected and UTA at 11 with a top 10 protection on the pick we have from them.

Does this means we have just 2 first left this draft ?
Didn’t notice the Charlotte one was the Houston second from 2024z

[Devilanche]

Kizz would you select Edey in the mid 1st ? I'd prefer to buy a second if he's available around ~40 for a couple of million.

Yes. I don't think he makes it past pick 20 and should go in the lottery. His improvements in agility this year show his work ethic and commitment. He's only been playing basketball for 5-6 years. The only knock on him is the lack of shooting range and mobility. His mobility is improving and he can continue to improve that and his FT% suggests he can add a solid mid-range game along with a decent 3pt shot. His hook shot and other stuff is coming along nicely. He's a very improved prospect from last season when he would have been a second round pick.

I still don’t think he’s lottery (without workout) and if he is probably too high for us. We probably looking at late first / early second to get a Center .

I think our center is situational when Chet is outmatched so might not be a lotto pick worth.

[Clav]

We've tossed our 24 2nd rounder to HOU, and Houston's 2nd we had to Charlotte. HOU at 8 right now with 1-4 protected and UTA at 11 with a top 10 protection on the pick we have from them.

Does this means we have just 2 first left this draft ?
Didn’t notice the Charlotte one was the Houston second from 2024z

2 picks for OKC in this draft,yes, no seconds anymore if I'm understanding this all.


The two are Houston and Utah

[Clav]

Kizz would you select Edey in the mid 1st ? I'd prefer to buy a second if he's available around ~40 for a couple of million.

Yes. I don't think he makes it past pick 20 and should go in the lottery. His improvements in agility this year show his work ethic and commitment. He's only been playing basketball for 5-6 years. The only knock on him is the lack of shooting range and mobility. His mobility is improving and he can continue to improve that and his FT% suggests he can add a solid mid-range game along with a decent 3pt shot. His hook shot and other stuff is coming along nicely. He's a very improved prospect from last season when he would have been a second round pick.

I still don’t think he’s lottery (without workout) and if he is probably too high for us. We probably looking at late first / early second to get a Center .

I think our center is situational when Chet is outmatched so might not be a lotto pick worth.

I've only seen one Edey game all season and he looked better in movement but still the college game is so much slower in general regarding pace, hard for me to judge.

Have you been watching Purdue, Kizz?

[Kizz Fastfists]

I've only seen one Edey game all season and he looked better in movement but still the college game is so much slower in general regarding pace, hard for me to judge.

Have you been watching Purdue, Kizz?

I've seen a handful of Purdue games this year. They are nationally televised enough that I've just happened to catch a few.

[Clav]

I've only seen one Edey game all season and he looked better in movement but still the college game is so much slower in general regarding pace, hard for me to judge.

Have you been watching Purdue, Kizz?

I've seen a handful of Purdue games this year. They are nationally televised enough that I've just happened to catch a few.

He announced as expected that he's not coming back to Purdue after the season.

[Kizz Fastfists]

2 picks for OKC in this draft,yes, no seconds anymore if I'm understanding this all.

The two are Houston and Utah

There are three options. 0 picks. 1 pick. 2 picks. Given the way Utah has been losing and Houston looking to maintain their current ping pong ball count, if not increase it, I will not be surprised if OKC has 0 picks in the draft. I will be surprised if OKC has 2 picks in the draft. I figure they will get one of the Utah or Houston picks and the other will not convey. Hope that the Houston that conveys because the Utah pick will still be an option next year.

[Clav]

2 picks for OKC in this draft,yes, no seconds anymore if I'm understanding this all.

The two are Houston and Utah

There are three options. 0 picks. 1 pick. 2 picks. Given the way Utah has been losing and Houston looking to maintain their current ping pong ball count, if not increase it, I will not be surprised if OKC has 0 picks in the draft. I will be surprised if OKC has 2 picks in the draft. I figure they will get one of the Utah or Houston picks and the other will not convey. Hope that the Houston that conveys because the Utah pick will still be an option next year.

Yes, hold on... is this correct or not ? If the HOU FR pick does NOT convey, as in HOU lands ping-pong ball luck and gets into the top 4, then OKC receives HOU's 2024 2nd ? right ? I think we're getting at least one from HOU somehow in this draft.

I'm pretty confident that HOU's FRP will be 8-11 for us and not get ping-pong-balled in the top-4.

Utah's I'm definitely not confident it conveys, but then it hangs over Utah's head again another year, and I don't think Utah wants that. I'm not sure what ends up happening.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Yes, hold on... is this correct or not ? If the HOU FR pick does NOT convey, as in HOU lands ping-pong ball luck and gets into the top 4, then OKC receives HOU's 2024 2nd ? right ? I think we're getting at least one from HOU somehow in this draft.

I'm pretty confident that HOU's FRP will be 8-11 for us and not get ping-pong-balled in the top-4.

Utah's I'm definitely not confident it conveys, but then it hangs over Utah's head again another year, and I don't think Utah wants that. I'm not sure what ends up happening.

Houston's 2025 2nd is in place of the 2024 1st if they land top 4.

[Bremzi]

It seems Jazz are pretty much cemented in that 9-12 range. Assuming they dont lose out completely to be overtaken by Rockets and Hawks, they’ll be in the 10-11 range. Even if they’re 10th, there’s a solid chance one of the 11-14 teams land a top4 pick and bump Jazz outside top10.

[mr570]

I hope the Jazz pick conveys bc, if it doesn’t, imo it definitely won’t convey next year - and then it becomes nothing.

[Kizz Fastfists]

I hope the Jazz pick conveys bc, if it doesn’t, imo it definitely won’t convey next year - and then it becomes nothing.

It is three shots at conveying. 2024, 2025 and 2026. Utah has the second hardest schedule remaining with three of their easy games being against Houston. Those three games could decide the 9th/10th pick and Houston is better today than Utah is. I expect them to finish with the 9th pick and not conveying it this year. I wouldn't be surprised if this off-season after realizing they do not have the assets to trade for a star they trade Lauri and go full tank. This would likely prevent it from conveying at all. They could manage to trade for a pseudo-star like Dejounte Murray and then be a play-in team next year with no future. I think that is the best case for OKC and that pick. Utah actively made themselves worse at the deadline.

They are sitting at 11, but Chicago should remain ahead of them, Atlanta should knock them down to 10th, only a .5 game difference, and Houston should knock them down to 9th, a 1.5 game difference. There is also a chance Toronto passes them to knock them to 8th after deciding to confusingly add Olynyk at the deadline and the players they got from NYK have been helping them perform better than they did early in the season. The only games I expect Utah to win the rest of the way are against Washington and San Antonio. They could win one or two against Houston, they could beat Chicago, but they are losing 2 to Minny, 2 to Dallas, 2 to Denver, 2 to GS and 1 to OKC. I see Utah's max at 32 wins and 30 is much more realistic. They just got blown out by Atlanta without Trae.

[mr570]

I hope the Jazz pick conveys bc, if it doesn’t, imo it definitely won’t convey next year - and then it becomes nothing.

It is three shots at conveying. 2024, 2025 and 2026. Utah has the second hardest schedule remaining with three of their easy games being against Houston. Those three games could decide the 9th/10th pick and Houston is better today than Utah is. I expect them to finish with the 9th pick and not conveying it this year. I wouldn't be surprised if this off-season after realizing they do not have the assets to trade for a star they trade Lauri and go full tank. This would likely prevent it from conveying at all. They could manage to trade for a pseudo-star like Dejounte Murray and then be a play-in team next year with no future. I think that is the best case for OKC and that pick. Utah actively made themselves worse at the deadline.

They are sitting at 11, but Chicago should remain ahead of them, Atlanta should knock them down to 10th, only a .5 game difference, and Houston should knock them down to 9th, a 1.5 game difference. There is also a chance Toronto passes them to knock them to 8th after deciding to confusingly add Olynyk at the deadline and the players they got from NYK have been helping them perform better than they did early in the season. The only games I expect Utah to win the rest of the way are against Washington and San Antonio. They could win one or two against Houston, they could beat Chicago, but they are losing 2 to Minny, 2 to Dallas, 2 to Denver, 2 to GS and 1 to OKC. I see Utah's max at 32 wins and 30 is much more realistic. They just got blown out by Atlanta without Trae.

I must have misread protections bc I was under the impression 2025 or it doesn't convey. Somebody on the Jazz could always pull a Moose and get us our own Maxey

[Clav]

UTAH has dropped to 9th [will not convey 1-10 protected]. HOU is tied for 10th with Atlanta and Sengun is now injured...

Utah's pick look like it's not conveying this year... HOU could sill get a good ping-pong roll into the top-4 if they completely [1-4 protected]

Carry on...

[Devilanche]

It’s highly unlikely that Utah pick will convey now.

[BlazersBroncos]

I like the role players OKC has off the bench - but they are all basically specialist (shooters, defenders) and I think OKC would benefit from a guy that can score from all 3 levels off the bench. So I am starting to really like Dalton with the HOU FRP. Kid just knows how to score and it gives you 2 3 level scorers on the court at all times in SGA / Jalen / Dalton.

Sign Hartenstein as that backup C and your done w/ the offseason IMO - should Presti not find a big fish worth cashing in on (Which is unlikely IMO - just dont see the price for Lauri being reasonable for example).

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace / Vet PG
G - Lou Dort / Isiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Jalen Williams / Dalton Knecht / Aaron Wiggins
F - Josh Giddey / Kenrich Williams / Osumane Dieng
C - Chet Holmgren / Isaiah Hartenstein / Jaylin Williams

[The Servant]

Kizz would you select Edey in the mid 1st ? I'd prefer to buy a second if he's available around ~40 for a couple of million.

Yes. I don't think he makes it past pick 20 and should go in the lottery. His improvements in agility this year show his work ethic and commitment. He's only been playing basketball for 5-6 years. The only knock on him is the lack of shooting range and mobility. His mobility is improving and he can continue to improve that and his FT% suggests he can add a solid mid-range game along with a decent 3pt shot. His hook shot and other stuff is coming along nicely. He's a very improved prospect from last season when he would have been a second round pick.

His combine numbers were around Adams and Lopez last year, hes dropped 15 pounds. I say take a chance on him with the Houston pick if we get it.