wizfactor94 wrote:Jimmy Butler would not average over 10 points in euroleague
Seriously, what is wrong with Butler? He has been awful all tournament.
wizfactor94 wrote:Jimmy Butler would not average over 10 points in euroleague
Sedale Threatt wrote:This is one of my favorite things about the Olympics/World Cup -- using a handful of games every other summer as a referendum on the state of the NBA/U.S. basketball.
As I said a few days ago in another thread, you want a referendum? Nando De Colo was just EuroLeague MVP.
Nando De Colo.
Sedale Threatt wrote:CSKA Moscow just won the Euro title with two Americans playing key roles who I have literally never heard of, Kyle Hines and Cory Higgins. Granted, I barely follow college basketball. But given that they went to Colorado and UNC-Greensboro -- not exactly hoops hotbeds -- they wouldn't seem to be prime prospects. And they can go over the Europe and thrive. Yet somehow players like Paul George, Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green would struggle. OK...
donkki wrote:Sedale Threatt wrote:This is one of my favorite things about the Olympics/World Cup -- using a handful of games every other summer as a referendum on the state of the NBA/U.S. basketball.
As I said a few days ago in another thread, you want a referendum? Nando De Colo was just EuroLeague MVP.
Nando De Colo.
Nando de Colo was ridiculously good all year, but in this tournament he has really stunk it up. But all year he played like Euro-version of Klay Thompson.
wizfactor94 wrote:DWadeno3 wrote:I've been critical of our national team as well, but the lengths some people go to in order to discredit us reaching the final is ridiculous.
That is how YOU SEE IT, because you are an emotional person.
Nobody is discrediting the US. You can pick and choose. The US has looked average, or the teams of other nations are scared of them anymore, and also have greatly learned more skills and have gotten better.
Either way my point is about the style of play.
Sedale Threatt wrote:donkki wrote:Sedale Threatt wrote:This is one of my favorite things about the Olympics/World Cup -- using a handful of games every other summer as a referendum on the state of the NBA/U.S. basketball.
As I said a few days ago in another thread, you want a referendum? Nando De Colo was just EuroLeague MVP.
Nando De Colo.
Nando de Colo was ridiculously good all year, but in this tournament he has really stunk it up. But all year he played like Euro-version of Klay Thompson.
Apologize for this as you seem like a good dude, but this tells me all I need to know about the level of competition in Europe.
donkki wrote:wizfactor94 wrote:Jimmy Butler would not average over 10 points in euroleague
Seriously, what is wrong with Butler? He has been awful all tournament.
Sedale Threatt wrote:donkki wrote:Sedale Threatt wrote:This is one of my favorite things about the Olympics/World Cup -- using a handful of games every other summer as a referendum on the state of the NBA/U.S. basketball.
As I said a few days ago in another thread, you want a referendum? Nando De Colo was just EuroLeague MVP.
Nando De Colo.
Nando de Colo was ridiculously good all year, but in this tournament he has really stunk it up. But all year he played like Euro-version of Klay Thompson.
Apologize for this as you seem like a good dude, but this tells me all I need to know about the level of competition in Europe.
Salieri wrote:Holy crap, the amount of whining and deflecting is astounding. A list of the excuses I've seen so far:
-Refs were on USA side (laughably wrong, refs called a tight game with better eyesight than the average NBA ref. Techs ruined the game for both teams, not just Spain)
-Steroids and other PED's (very serious accusation with no basis whatsoever, reeks of soreness)
-Large population (unlike China or India, you mean? LOL)
-USA wins solely by physical dominance and depth (well, they are two fundamental traits of a good basketball team, it's not like that is cheating or anything)
I am spanish and I'm not ashamed to say I am super proud of these guys' effort today. Losing by 6 to any USA team is quite the achievement, especially when our best players are past their prime or chronically injured. No shame in admitting USA is a better team. Damn, there were times today when their 3 was taller than our 5, and their 5 was more agile than our 3. Now add the talent they have and I'm amazed we made it a game. Huge props to our coach Scariolo and the players, they played their hearts out today.
What people tend to forget is that there are very few examples, if any, of this kind of dominance in any team related sport. USA in basketball is not comparable to Brazil in football. Put together Brazil, Argentina and Germany and then you're approaching the level of dominance/accolades USA can brag about in basketball. What are you gonna do against such powerhouse? Well, not quitting is all you can ask for, and that's what I saw today. Congrats to USA and best of luck to Serbia in the final.
UcanUwill wrote:donkki wrote:wizfactor94 wrote:Jimmy Butler would not average over 10 points in euroleague
Seriously, what is wrong with Butler? He has been awful all tournament.
I have no idea how this guy averaged 20 points in the NBA. Guy looks awful.
90sgoat wrote:Butler like many other NBA players is good one on one, on both defense and offense. In Chicago he more or less drove Pau out of town by refusing to pass him the ball in the post.
90sgoat wrote:Butler like many other NBA players is good one on one, on both defense and offense. In Chicago he more or less drove Pau out of town by refusing to pass him the ball in the post.