FFDL Draft Thread 2023

Post #41 » by **floppymoose** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:00 pm

hamncheese wrote:Pick up Caris LeVert. Drop Josh Richardson.

hamncheese would like to thank Josh Richardson for his time with the team.

eyeatoma · Post #42 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:16 pm

Draft Ziaire Williams

hamncheese · Post #43 » by **hamncheese** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 2:16 am

floppymoose wrote:
hamncheese wrote:Pick up Caris LeVert. Drop Josh Richardson.

hamncheese would like to thank Josh Richardson for his time with the team.

He would have stayed if he had SF eligibility. I am short on SFs.

GrapeApe · Post #44 » by **GrapeApe** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:53 am

hamncheese wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
hamncheese wrote:Pick up Caris LeVert. Drop Josh Richardson.

hamncheese would like to thank Josh Richardson for his time with the team.

He would have stayed if he had SF eligibility. I am short on SFs.

That is why they call them small forwards.

And I will forfeit my pick.

AlciG · Post #45 » by **AlciG** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:33 pm

Draft Kris Murray

battaginlemon · Post #46 » by **battaginlemon** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:41 pm

Not sure if I can post pick #19 already or need further confirmation from The Man

I wouldnt want to get sniped tho..

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battaginlemon · Post #47 » by **battaginlemon** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:31 pm

As I'm about to go to sleep and I don't want to hold things up until tomorrow,
I'm gonna go ahead and pick

#19 Santi Aldama

This is assuming the offer from TheMan, and consequent trade, is still valid.
If not (it took me quite a few hours to reach out, so maybe something else came up) just scratch this

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theman · Post #48 » by **theman** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:43 pm

battaginlemon wrote:As I'm about to go to sleep and I don't want to hold things up until tomorrow,
I'm gonna go ahead and pick

#19 Santi Aldama

This is assuming the offer from TheMan, and consequent trade, is still valid.
If not (it took me quite a few hours to reach out, so maybe something else came up) just scratch this

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You are good. You need to drop some one.

theman · Post #49 » by **theman** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:44 pm

AlciG wrote:Draft Kris Murray

You need a drop.

battaginlemon · Post #50 » by **battaginlemon** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:48 pm

Dropping Keita Bates-Diop

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sabonis · Post #51 » by **sabonis** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:49 pm

I'm sorry but how is a skipped pick traded later on and a player can be picked before I make a pick?

It doesn't make sense to me that this can happen.

theman · Post #52 » by **theman** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:17 pm

sabonis wrote:I'm sorry but how is a skipped pick traded later on and a player can be picked before I make a pick?

It doesn't make sense to me that this can happen.

It is the #19 pick. It was skipped but it still a valid pick.Just like if someone's 12 hours expired. The pick is still good. Think of it this way, six (?) people jumped over me and I am picking late. But the pick is being traded to batta.

sabonis · Post #53 » by **sabonis** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:35 pm

It was forfeited. Then anybody who forfeits a pick can go back and make a pick whenever....

AlciG · Post #54 » by **AlciG** » Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:38 pm

theman wrote:
AlciG wrote:Draft Kris Murray

You need a drop.

Drop:
Luguentz Dort

theman · Post #55 » by **theman** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:03 am

sabonis wrote:It was forfeited. Then anybody who forfeits a pick can go back and make a pick whenever....

It was skipped. Anyone who was skipped can pick.

Let's assume you had the #14 pick and your 12 hours expires. Then the person with #13 picks, do you not get to pick? Of course you do, but you were skipped. In fact there is precedence for this in the NFL draft. The Minnesota Vikings were jumped twice during the 2003 draft. Minnesota held the No. 7 pick and ran out of time after failing to make a trade with Baltimore. Jacksonville then drafted quarterback Byron Leftwich and Carolina drafted tackle Jordan Gross. The Vikings finally took defensive tackle Kevin Williams at No. 9.

eyeatoma · Post #56 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:47 am

Not sure I agree with that logic. This is the NBA and not the NFL. It's not done in the NBA draft.

It messes up people's planning and queues. They see a skipped pick assume they can get a player they wanted then all of a sudden someone jumps the line and grabs them. If they skipped wouldn't they just go to the back of the line then? Forfeiting a pick or skipping whatever you wanna call it should have some sort of penalty.

insfo · Post #57 » by **insfo** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:01 am

eyeatoma wrote:Not sure I agree with that logic. This is the NBA and not the NFL. It's not done in the NBA draft.

It messes up people's planning and queues. They see a skipped pick assume they can get a player they wanted then all of a sudden someone jumps the line and grabs them. If they skipped wouldn't they just go to the back of the line then? Forfeiting a pick or skipping whatever you wanna call it should have some sort of penalty.

I hadn't thought of it this way, but valid points.

sabonis · Post #58 » by **sabonis** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:13 am

theman wrote:
sabonis wrote:It was forfeited. Then anybody who forfeits a pick can go back and make a pick whenever....

It was skipped. Anyone who was skipped can pick.

Let's assume you had the #14 pick and your 12 hours expires. Then the person with #13 picks, do you not get to pick? Of course you do, but you were skipped. In fact there is precedence for this in the NFL draft. The Minnesota Vikings were jumped twice during the 2003 draft. Minnesota held the No. 7 pick and ran out of time after failing to make a trade with Baltimore. Jacksonville then drafted quarterback Byron Leftwich and Carolina drafted tackle Jordan Gross. The Vikings finally took defensive tackle Kevin Williams at No. 9.

First of all as eyeatoma said this is the NBA not NFL. And on that example they have been skipped due to time. They didn't come out and say "We aren't picking but we'll comeback and pick later when we are ready"

Secondly, on all previous years picks were forfeited (and in reality there's really no difference of skipping and forfeiting unless you are somehow making a late trade with your forfeited pick). When you are skipping/forfeiting your pick, it's because you don't wanna drop a player because there's no worthy player to pickup instead of them.

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You can see people are not "skipping" their pick, they are forfeiting their pick. Because they don't wanna pick a bad player and drop a good one.

eyeatoma · Post #59 » by **eyeatoma** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:14 am

insfo wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Not sure I agree with that logic. This is the NBA and not the NFL. It's not done in the NBA draft.

It messes up people's planning and queues. They see a skipped pick assume they can get a player they wanted then all of a sudden someone jumps the line and grabs them. If they skipped wouldn't they just go to the back of the line then? Forfeiting a pick or skipping whatever you wanna call it should have some sort of penalty.

I hadn't thought of it this way, but valid points.

Thanks. Out of curiosity how was this originally decided on?

theman · Post #60 » by **theman** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:22 am

insfo wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Not sure I agree with that logic. This is the NBA and not the NFL. It's not done in the NBA draft.

It messes up people's planning and queues. They see a skipped pick assume they can get a player they wanted then all of a sudden someone jumps the line and grabs them. If they skipped wouldn't they just go to the back of the line then? Forfeiting a pick or skipping whatever you wanna call it should have some sort of penalty.

I hadn't thought of it this way, but valid points.

If this is the case, you should have lost your pick last year when you were late and Alicg picked.