Two Rings or Less Draft (90s to now) - Discussion

durantbird · Post #41 » by **durantbird** » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:21 pm

Fade has my options

Larry_Russell · Post #42 » by **Larry_Russell** » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:35 pm

My god slow round

Square · Post #43 » by **Square** » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:45 pm

I’m around but my understanding is that the clock hasn’t started yet.

Post #44 » by **Snakebites** » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:23 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote::cry:
Snakebites wrote:Generally speaking I feel like the best positions are lower positions unless you can get a GOAT candidate. 2016 Lebron might be OP in this one.

There’s some variation of course with draft pools. We’ll see what I get.

What do people think KD’s best nom-Warriors season is for these drafts?

2012-13 is the best value and closer to his peak than any eligible Nets season.

Yeah, I wish 21-22 was eligible. I remember him being a total beast in the postseason.

I’m debating whether springing for 2016 is viable.

People don’t seem to like his 2013 season.

Post #45 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:51 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote::cry:
Snakebites wrote:Generally speaking I feel like the best positions are lower positions unless you can get a GOAT candidate. 2016 Lebron might be OP in this one.

There’s some variation of course with draft pools. We’ll see what I get.

What do people think KD’s best nom-Warriors season is for these drafts?

2012-13 is the best value and closer to his peak than any eligible Nets season.

Yeah, I wish 21-22 was eligible. I remember him being a total beast in the postseason.

I’m debating whether springing for 2016 is viable.

People don’t seem to like his 2013 season.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because I don't see a huge difference in player quality between most of his prime seasons.

His Golden State tenure just simplifies things because the FGA value for 2016-17 is just ridiculous.

Laimbeer · Post #46 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:09 am

Square wrote:I’m around but my understanding is that the clock hasn’t started yet.

Correct. It starts at 9:00 p.m. EST

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Square · Post #47 » by **Square** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:18 am

Larry_Russell wrote:My god slow round

Up.

Larry_Russell · Post #48 » by **Larry_Russell** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:32 am

durantbird wrote:In

up

Square · Post #49 » by **Square** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:44 am

Usually I try to not draft bigs early and not leave round 2 without a legit lead ball-handler. Smashed both of those rules. But KG and Orlando Shaq is a fun combo.

uberhikari wrote:up

Laimbeer · Post #50 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:49 am

That's a big slide, even for Orlando Shaq. Steal.

Post #51 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:06 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote::cry:
2012-13 is the best value and closer to his peak than any eligible Nets season.

Yeah, I wish 21-22 was eligible. I remember him being a total beast in the postseason.

I’m debating whether springing for 2016 is viable.

People don’t seem to like his 2013 season.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because I don't see a huge difference in player quality between most of his prime seasons.

His Golden State tenure just simplifies things because the FGA value for 2016-17 is just ridiculous.

UP

Came so freaking close to getting Shaq...

Well, I have 2 MVP level guys now (2 MVPs if I'm willing to spring for their respective MVP seasons). We'll see how this goes. KD was picked because I knew the BPA at my spot was either going to be a bruising big man or a high usage guard. Got KD who fits well with either one.

Dr Positivity · Post #52 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:33 am

I'd normally take Orl Shaq over Malone, but I liked the frontcourt options around the latter in this draft more enough to make up for it. Having KG is perfect as he won't have to worry about the PF in a draft without a few guys like Draymond and Pistons Sheed.

Post #53 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:33 am

Oh lovely, Fade and I are building similar archetype teams. Guess I better brace myself for him grabbing two of my targets on the 3/4 backswing.

Post #54 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:35 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I'd normally take Orl Shaq over Malone, but I liked the frontcourt options around the latter in this draft more enough to make up for it. Having KG is perfect as he won't have to worry about the PF in a draft without a few guys like Draymond and Pistons Sheed.

Malone is comparable to Orlando Shaq IMO but Malone is a much better fit with CP3. That's a better version of Malone with his real life partner.

Post #55 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:42 pm

Snakebites wrote:Oh lovely, Fade and I are building similar archetype teams. Guess I better brace myself for him grabbing two of my targets on the 3/4 backswing.

I'm not even that wild about it tbh. Was hoping to get Penny. At least this pool should be deep enough to get the right surrounding pieces.

Post #56 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:02 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Oh lovely, Fade and I are building similar archetype teams. Guess I better brace myself for him grabbing two of my targets on the 3/4 backswing.

I'm not even that wild about it tbh. Was hoping to get Penny. At least this pool should be deep enough to get the right surrounding pieces.

Penny is super talented but I’ve never seen success with him.

Post #57 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:13 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Oh lovely, Fade and I are building similar archetype teams. Guess I better brace myself for him grabbing two of my targets on the 3/4 backswing.

I'm not even that wild about it tbh. Was hoping to get Penny. At least this pool should be deep enough to get the right surrounding pieces.

Penny is super talented but I’ve never seen success with him.

I've damn sure done better with him than Luka.

Post #58 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:42 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:I'm not even that wild about it tbh. Was hoping to get Penny. At least this pool should be deep enough to get the right surrounding pieces.

Penny is super talented but I’ve never seen success with him.

I've damn sure done better with him than Luka.

How did you rank Harden relative to those 2 guys on your list? I personally think Harden is better than Luka but I’ve seen Luka picked first.

I actually almost took Barkley and thought you might do it.

Laimbeer · Post #59 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:48 pm

Penny
Harden
Luka

That seem to be the pecking order. Luka gets knocked for living in an offensive scheme people can't envision or don't think maximizes other high level talent. Harden is poked for his D and ball dominance. Penny seems most popular, imo.

Post #60 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:49 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Penny
Harden
Luka

That seem to be the pecking order. Luka gets knocked for living in an offensive scheme people can't envision or don't think maximizes other high level talent. Harden is poked for his D and ball dominance. Penny seems most popular, imo.

I think Harden is better than Penny. Probably not relative to cost though. Penny gets knocked for fit too.

All of them are primary ball handlers who need to guard wings most of the time which can be a challenge to navigate.

As for ball dominance, all three have track records alongside other ball handlers- most notably Harden with CP3, older Penny with Kidd, and Luka with Brunson (not ready to call Kyrie a success). This is true even though none of them are really notable off ball players.