Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA

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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#221 » by BlackIce » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:16 am

lukekarts wrote:Look, I can speak from both sides here - 1 as a former commissioner and agent in two games; one as someone who has won some and lost some in FA.

Firstly - and this is more centred around unrestricted free agents - there's absolutely loads of offers coming in. I recall one FA period I ran saw me receive 250+ emails in the space of 48 hours. Roc may only have 1/3 of that given his client list, but it's still something you have to take effort to sort. You can't always respond to everyone's request, sometimes things will be forgotten.

Personally my view on it is that an agent will try to work for his players, 'sell' them to teams, but not to the point of actively waiting for offers to come in and then telling someone what they have to beat. An agent is going to want to see some sort of offer put on the table, and by the close of the window (i.e. the deadline in which the player wants to have decided his future) - the player would accept the offer that is best for him; whether that is in terms of fit, location, money, whatever.

Secondly, GMAT FA runs more like an ebay auction than real life. Whilst I expect some bidding and counterbidding goes on in real life, here we treat players as assets (more than Daryl Morey) and offers bounce backwards and forwards are always about money, or someone bid this, someone bid that... When the majority of spenders have used all their cap, it's more likely a player is going to accept an offer that is on the table, rather than wait. This is tier 3, after all.

Thirdly, I don't think the attitude helps things. Fine, I get you're frustrated, but it's just a game.

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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#222 » by DerrickNoah » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:26 am

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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#223 » by spree8 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:42 am

Everything is fine between me and Roc...just miscommunication. We are men, and humans, sometimes emotions get the best of us. He meant no harm, and neither did I. In other news...

Blazers have signed Tony Allen to a 3 year 18 million dollar deal.

1st $6,000,000

2nd $6,000,000

3rd $6,000,000

Total: $18,000,000

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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#224 » by -Kees- » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:20 am

PHX signs David West to a 4 year deal:

$7M
$7.1M
$7.2M
$7.3M (PO)

He creates a nice scoring threat from the PF spot, and he's putting up like 17/8 this year or something like that.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#225 » by roc » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:39 am

All the Tier 3 wing players have now signed contracts. More info should be revealed shortly as Team's start to break the news.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#226 » by Blazer50 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:42 am

San Antonio signs RFA - PG Gary Neal
4 year - $8M contract - $ 2,000,000 per Year
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#227 » by orangeparka » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:05 am

Andray Blatche signs with PHI for a four-year, $27.8m contract with a PO.

Elton Brand signs with POR for a three-year, $6.3m contract.

Lamar Odom signs with MIA for a two-year, under-the-cap exception contract with a PO.

Antawn Jamison signs with OKC for a three-year, full tax MLE contract.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#228 » by orangeparka » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:08 am

My work here's done. Tried my best to go back and forth and get my clients the best contract possible. I thought it went alright.

Good luck to everyone else for the rest of FA.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#229 » by MadNESS » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:16 am

orangeparka wrote:Lamar Odom signs with MIA for a two-year, under-the-cap exception contract with a PO


We are happy to have Odom back here in Miami, and we have always thought he woul thrive with Lebron or Dwight. Now he gets to play with both. He's back in playing shape and playing great for the real life LAC. He will be starting for us and be a major part to our success.

Edit: Thanks OP and Roc for helpin out.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#230 » by -Kees- » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:30 am

Devin Harris signs with the Suns for our remaining cap space!

$2,789,575
$2,915,105
$3,046,285
$3,183,367 (PO)

Gives us a legit starting point next to Kobe.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#231 » by eliasrapp98 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:36 am

WAS has struck agreements with both Mo Williams and Stephen Jackson. Both were Wizards for about 3 days this year, so we're glad to bring them back XD.

Mo Williams: 4 years 22 million

5.5 million
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#232 » by spree8 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:42 am

orangeparka wrote:Elton Brand signs with POR for a three-year, $6.3m contract.


Blazers are happy to bring Brand aboard. He brings defense, experience and leadership to our club. He also provides our bench with a low post offensive presence.

Specs:

1st year: $2,000,000
2nd year: $2,090,000
3rd year: $2,184,050

Total: $6,274,050
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#233 » by MJallday59 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:39 am

The Orlando Magic have signed Chauncey Billups to the following:

Year 1: 5.5
Year 2: 5.0

A former All-Star & Finals MVP, Billups will serve as a player/assistant coach for our young team.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#234 » by SamBone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:44 pm

orangeparka wrote:Andray Blatche signs with PHI for a four-year, $27.8m contract with a PO.

Elton Brand signs with POR for a three-year, $6.3m contract.

Lamar Odom signs with MIA for a two-year, under-the-cap exception contract with a PO.

Antawn Jamison signs with OKC for a three-year, full tax MLE contract.


My guess is you made a typo, since OKC never offered Jameson anything and does not even have a full Mle even if we were interested , which we are not
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#235 » by SamBone » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:48 pm

Also the tax payer Mle is a max of 2 years
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#236 » by lukekarts » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:14 pm

I think another mistake is Kaman signing for full MLE with Indiana?

Indiana is a team that started with cap space, so should only have the small MLE ($2,500,000 / $2,575,000 = $5,075,000 TOTAL); IIRC.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#237 » by bringbackhoffa » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:05 pm

Philly cannot sign Andray Blatche, he took too long to decide and we no longer have the required capspace to sign him

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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#238 » by spree8 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:34 pm

I shot an e-mail over to Orangeparka to see if he can help us out and correct these issues fellas.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#239 » by orangeparka » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:40 pm

OKC offered the tax MLE to any remaining big that would take it.

IND sent me the offer for Kaman. I assumed people knew what they'd be able to offer.

As for PHI, the offer was never retracted.
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Re: Christmas GMAT: 2013 FA 

Post#240 » by spree8 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:02 pm

orangeparka wrote:OKC offered the tax MLE to any remaining big that would take it.

IND sent me the offer for Kaman. I assumed people knew what they'd be able to offer.

As for PHI, the offer was never retracted.


Thanks Orange, with that said, it looks like Jamison is in Okc for the mini MLE for 2 years. That does look like a legitimate offer to me. It was a vague offer, but an offer nonetheless.

It looks like Blatche, and Kaman will be placed into Tier 4, and Gm's will have to make offers on them there. I'll update the list on page one to include them. After asking Supply, he is fine with taking them, so send your offers to him.

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