FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

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Post#1341 » by durantbird » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:18 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:70s Champions Draft - only franchises that won a title in the 70s eligible

Knicks
Bucks
Lakers
Celtics
Warriors
Blazers
Bullets/Wizards
Sonics/Thunder

I think we should do this one. I'll do this 70s and on.
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Post#1342 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:27 am

durantbird wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:70s Champions Draft - only franchises that won a title in the 70s eligible

Knicks
Bucks
Lakers
Celtics
Warriors
Blazers
Bullets/Wizards
Sonics/Thunder

I think we should do this one. I'll do this 70s and on.

I'd have to go through it again, but my intention at the time was 80s to now.
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Post#1343 » by durantbird » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:54 pm

Another idea I had in mind was Shooters Draft. Only allowing players who ever had an eligible season of at least 35% from 3 in a volume of at least 1.0 attempts per game.

We can limit for example the number of All NBA (or maybe 2nd/3rd All NBA) players to two.

Will be mainly challenging with bigs of course.
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Post#1344 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Mar 1, 2024 6:46 pm

durantbird wrote:Another idea I had in mind was Shooters Draft. Only allowing players who ever had an eligible season of at least 35% from 3 in a volume of at least 1.0 attempts per game.

We can limit for example the number of All NBA (or maybe 2nd/3rd All NBA) players to two.

Will be mainly challenging with bigs of course.

Almost sure we did this exact game a few years ago.

There should be enough bigs given where the game has gone in recent years.
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Post#1345 » by flaco » Fri Mar 1, 2024 7:49 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
durantbird wrote:Another idea I had in mind was Shooters Draft. Only allowing players who ever had an eligible season of at least 35% from 3 in a volume of at least 1.0 attempts per game.

We can limit for example the number of All NBA (or maybe 2nd/3rd All NBA) players to two.

Will be mainly challenging with bigs of course.

Almost sure we did this exact game a few years ago.

There should be enough bigs given where the game has gone in recent years.

Some available bigs based on a quick search:

Jokic, Embiid, KG, Dirk, Horford, JJJ, Draymond, Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Porzingis, Brook, Arvydas, Domantas, Sheed, Bosh, KAT, Blake Griffin, Chris Webber, LMA, Myles Turner, Ibaka, Sam Perkins, Maxi Kleber, Dedmon, Matt Bonner, Gorgui Dieng

I'd argue the first 19-20 names on the list are starting-calibre players. There's enough talent to go around for everybody.
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Post#1346 » by Snakebites » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:15 pm

flaco wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
durantbird wrote:Another idea I had in mind was Shooters Draft. Only allowing players who ever had an eligible season of at least 35% from 3 in a volume of at least 1.0 attempts per game.

We can limit for example the number of All NBA (or maybe 2nd/3rd All NBA) players to two.

Will be mainly challenging with bigs of course.

Almost sure we did this exact game a few years ago.

There should be enough bigs given where the game has gone in recent years.

Some available bigs based on a quick search:

Jokic, Embiid, KG, Dirk, Horford, JJJ, Draymond, Marc Gasol, Pau Gasol, Porzingis, Brook, Arvydas, Domantas, Sheed, Bosh, KAT, Blake Griffin, Chris Webber, LMA, Myles Turner, Ibaka, Sam Perkins, Maxi Kleber, Dedmon, Matt Bonner, Gorgui Dieng

I'd argue the first 19-20 names on the list are starting-calibre players. There's enough talent to go around for everybody.

Restrictions like that result in teams feeling pretty same-y to be honest.

I’d prefer a different idea.
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Post#1347 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:29 pm

best of the worst

PLayrs drafted must have played a season for one for the bottom 8 teams recordwise
Toronto
Charlotte
Washington
Detroit
San Antonio
Portland
Memphis
Houston
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Post#1348 » by durantbird » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:32 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:best of the worst

PLayrs drafted must have played a season for one for the bottom 8 teams recordwise
Toronto
Charlotte
Washington
Detroit
San Antonio
Portland
Memphis
Houston

Too few legit first options even if we go back to 70s. I'd assume the general depth is also insufficient. Should be expanded
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Post#1349 » by flaco » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:35 pm

How about no exceptions whatsoever, but we drastically reduce the FGA limit? Let's say 70 or 75 or whatever. Haven't put much thought on the exact number.
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Post#1350 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Mar 1, 2024 10:50 pm

What do you guys think about doing 9 round games with a coach sometimes? It might spice up the strategy in pools where there is a few guys like Phil and Kerr and then a dropoff
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Post#1351 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:20 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:What do you guys think about doing 9 round games with a coach sometimes? It might spice up the strategy in pools where there is a few guys like Phil and Kerr and then a dropoff

I'd rather not introduce the complication of people having to weight a coach's impact in a playoff series between two made-up teams.

The 9th round thing is an option I've advocated for, but it wasn't a very popular idea.
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Post#1352 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Mar 3, 2024 3:15 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Why do we need ABBB?


I think it's pretty difficult to beat Jokic or Giannis in their prime for the late round drafters. Giving them 4th round top pick isn't that mammoth of an advantage anyway, just a slight one that could help.

I can see the argument for Jokic, although it's not as strong without the insane value of his 2022-23 season for 14.8 FGA. Giannis I'm not even sure would be my next pick there.

Anyway, if someone ends up with, say, LeBron + Steph (perfectly plausible) plus first pick in round 3, I don't feel like we need to give them another top pick in round 4. The importance of high picks is really overblown on here at times.

Called it :lol:
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Post#1353 » by durantbird » Sun Mar 3, 2024 8:18 am

80s players + 90s no first team.

You can draft any player who played in the 80s (any season from his career), and you can also choose players who didn't play in the 80s but only seasons from 1990-1999 and only players who didn't make it to an NBA First Team in the timeframe (99 Kobe or KG are eligible for example).
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Post#1354 » by durantbird » Sun Mar 3, 2024 2:49 pm

durantbird wrote:Another idea, I assume we didn't have such a concept yet.

The One Syllable draft. Only players with one syllable for their first or last name are valid choices.

We can use a unified source for the proper used name, like nba.com or basketball reference. Nicknames like Shaq don't count.

There are some edge cases (is Ewing one or two syllables? what about McKie?). We can define that if basketball reference states a two syllable pronunciation in their pronunciation guide (like the two examples), then player is invalid.

I like this old idea. If others like it as well, it can work well for an all-time pool.
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Post#1355 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:46 pm

Gregg Popovich Draft: only players who faced Pop in a playoff series are eligible (he's coached the most playoff games among active coaches with 284). I'd probably restrict this to the seasons where they actually played against a Popovich team, as it's already a very deep pool.
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Post#1356 » by Snakebites » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:01 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Gregg Popovich Draft: only players who faced Pop in a playoff series are eligible (he's coached the most playoff games among active coaches with 284). I'd probably restrict this to the seasons where they actually played against a Popovich team, as it's already a very deep pool.

Head coach only?
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Post#1357 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:03 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Gregg Popovich Draft: only players who faced Pop in a playoff series are eligible (he's coached the most playoff games among active coaches with 284). I'd probably restrict this to the seasons where they actually played against a Popovich team, as it's already a very deep pool.

Head coach only?

Yes
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Post#1358 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:10 pm

Actually not as deep as I thought - might require adding players who played for him as well.
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Post#1359 » by Snakebites » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:13 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Actually not as deep as I thought - might require adding players who played for him as well.

That adds 3 MVP level guys and a decent swath of role players.

He made the playoffs a lot but there wasn’t a lot of variation in his teams.

Could add his time as an assistant too, though that feels off for the theme.
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Post#1360 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:19 pm

Snakebites wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Actually not as deep as I thought - might require adding players who played for him as well.

That adds 3 MVP level guys and a decent swath of role players.

He made the playoffs a lot but there wasn’t a lot of variation in his teams.

Could add his time as an assistant too, though that feels off for the theme.

It adds three All-NBA players as well.

I'll dig into it further, but my feeling is that would be enough for 10-12 people which seems to be our ceiling nowadays.

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