Multi Franchise States Draft - Playin #1 - uberhikari vs Larry_Russell*

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Post#1 » by durantbird » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:49 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

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Post#2 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:21 pm

PG: Kyle Lowry (2011-12) 10.9
14.5ppg, 4.5rpg, 6.6apg, 1.6spg, 37.5% on 4.5-3tpta

SG: Doug Christie (2002-03) 7
9.5ppg, 4.3rpg, 4.7apg, 2.3spg, 0.5bpg, 39.5% on 2.3-3pta
DPOY-5, All Defense 1st

SF: Kawhi Leonard (2015-16) 15.1
21.2ppg, 6.8rpg, 2.6apg, 1.8spg, 1bpg, 44.3% on 4-3pta
MVP-2, DPOY, All NBA 1st, All Defense 1st

PF: Blake Griffin (2013-14) 17
24ppg, 7rpg, 4apg, 1.2spg
MVP-3, All NBA 2nd

C: Alonzo Mourning (1999-00) 15
21.7ppg, 9.5rpg, 1.5apg, 0.5spg, 3.7bpg
MVP-3, DPOY, All NBA 2nd, All Defense 1st

PG/SG: Jamal Crawford (2013-14) 14.7
18.6ppg, 2.3rpg, 3.2apg, 1spg, 36% on 6.5-3pta
6MOTY

SF/PF: Boris Diaw (2012-13) 4.4
5.8ppg, 3.4rpg, 2.4apg, 0.7spg, 38.5% on 1-3pta

C: Marc Gasol (2020-21) 3.7
5ppg, 4rpg, 2apg, 0.5spg, 1bpg, 41% on 2.3-3pta


PG: Lowry (32) / Crawford (16)
SG: Christie (36) / Crawford(12)
SF: Leonard (38) / Diaw (10)
PF: Griffin (38) / Diaw (14 )
C: Mourning (38) / Gasol (10)

87.8/88


Matchups

Curry on Steph
Lowry on DFS
Kawhi on Marion
Blake on Bosh
Mourning on Howard


I feel like defensively I have a pretty great team overall. 2-DPOY winners and an all nba defense 1st member and Lowry, Gasol, Diaw as my next best set of defenders. Really strong on that side of the ball.

Curry has the perfect resume and skills to defend Steph and do as good as anyone can
Lowry is going to hide on DFS who is playing out of position, imo.
Kawhi is a monster who should be able to really lock down what Marion brings who, imo, is post prime here which also saves Kawhi a bit and lets him cheat off on everybody as this Marion is only 19% from the 3pt line. Kawhi gets to help where ever and whenever he wants to.
Blake takes on Bosh, and Blake not know as a defender has the tools to be able to compete with Bosh wherever Bosh goes on the floor.
MOurning is a great cover for Dwight. Another DPOY player who is one of the strongest guys to play wont get bullied here.


Offensivly I believe I have a great team here.

Leonard is my big ticket here. A lot of plays will go through him. Pretty much elite at everything basketball.
Lowry runs the point, and he has proven success with Kawhi doing that.
Christie is my other "point" guy who when Kawhi or Lowry isnt running the ball up the court, can step in an make plays for teammates.
Blake is my high flyer who brings elite efficiency on offense as well as passing from the front court.
Mourning is my bruiser, pick setter, low post precense who still has a midrange jumper if needed.

Off the bench I have a great Vet in Marc Gasol who has championship experience and he can protect the rim and make some threes.
Diaw can give me a little swiss army type stuff off the bench.
And Crawford is my scorer off the bench, 6moty winner who will come in and just get buckets.
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Post#3 » by uberhikari » Fri Mar 1, 2024 4:52 am

PG: 2017 Steph Curry: 25-5-7, 10 3PA, 41.1 3P%; All-NBA 2nd
SG: 2021 Dorian Finney-Smith: 10 ppg, 5 3PA, 39.4 3P%
SF: 2009 Shawn Marion: 13-9, 1.3 stls, 1 blk
PF: 2014 Chris Bosh: 16 ppg, 2.8 3PA, 33.9 3P%; All-Star
C: 2011 Dwight Howard: 23-14; All-NBA 1st, All-Defense 1st, MVP(2), DPOY

Bench
PG/SG: 2005 Jason Terry: 12-2-5, 3.1 3PA, 42 3P%
SF/PF: 2015 Chandler Parsons: 16 ppg, 5.3 3PA, 38 3P%
C: 2013 Chris Andersen: 5-4, 1 blk, 63.1 TS%

Rotations
PG: Steph Curry (38) / Jason Terry (10)
SG: Dorian Finney-Smith (34) / Jason Terry (14)
SF: Shawn Marion (36) / Chandler Parsons (10)
PF: Chris Bosh (38) / Chandler Parsons (10)
C: Dwight Howard (38) / Chris Andersen (10)

Matchups: Curry on Lowry; Finney-Smith on Christie; Marion on Kawhi; Bosh on Griffin; Howard on Zo.

My biggest advantage in this series is offensive synergy and my bench. Whereas I have a balanced inside-outside attack with Curry and Howard, Larry_Russell has an awkward-fitting low-spacing frontcourt combined with 2016 Kawhi who hadn't reached his offensive apex. Moreover, Terry is just a much better version of Jamal Crawford, and I have Parsons for even more scoring punch.

On defense, Larry_Russell's low-spacing frontcourt makes his team much easier to defend. Howard can patrol the paint and Bosh can use his 5-inch wingspan advantage to make life difficult for Blake either in the low-post or at the rim. I wouldn't consider 30-year-old Marion to be post-prime, and he's certainly not someone that pre-peak Kawhi can try and score on in isolation. And since I don't consider Christie a reliable 3-point shooter, I'll have DFS blitz him to keep him off balance.

On offense, my two best players fit perfectly since they have scoring gravity in different areas of the court which should stretch the defense in opposite directions and make it easier for Marion and Bosh to score. The Curry/Howard P&R should be particularly dangerous since Zo will have to pick his poison: drop to cover the lob to Howard and let Steph fire from 3 or try and defend Curry at the 3-point line leaving Howard open in the paint.

Finally, I have complementary stars surrounded by great role players and the best bench in the game which has elite perimeter creation and 3-point shooting/scoring.
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Post#4 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:16 am

Having to use Rockets Lowry combined with non peak Kawhi on offense looms large for me here, and I much prefer Terry and Parsons bench to Crawford and playing Diaw SF minutes at this stage. Vote uber.
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Post#5 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Mar 1, 2024 10:27 am

Off peak kawhi?

Dude was 2nd in mvp
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Post#6 » by durantbird » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:44 pm

Close. I like Uber's team but I'm a little bit missing another passer to utilize Steph's off ball gravity. Kawhi Blake Mourning seems like a little better top 3, even though I don't like Diaw at SF. I trust Kawhi leading the way here.

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Post#7 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:36 pm

Not in love with uber's low-passing roster around Steph, and I'd also like to have another perimeter player that can make something happen if Steph gets trapped and forced to give the ball up. Terry and Parsons provide some of that off the bench, but they're only playing 24 and 20 minutes respectively and would lead to defensive issues if you relied on them more. Larry on the other hand has a far less dynamic lead guard, but more playmaking at other positions from Blake/Christie/Diaw/Crawford. I do think the lack of a true #1 option hurts Larry quite a bit here - 2016 may have had similar overall value, but 2017 was when he really took a step forward as a high-volume scorer. Feels like things will devolve into a lot of Kawhi/Blake/Zo isos against very good defenders. I'd rather take my chances with Dwight or Bosh running two-man game with Steph, even if it doesn't really leverage his off-ball game as much as I'd like.

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Post#8 » by durantbird » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:43 am

lilroddyb wrote:

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MadNess wrote:

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flaco wrote:

Need at least one more vote
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Post#9 » by flaco » Sat Mar 2, 2024 10:04 am

I think peak Kawhi was in 2017 right before the Zaza injury. 2016 is close enough. I also think Rockets Lowry is a serviceable starter in this pool. I had him fairly high on my list, especially after selecting Butler. My issue with Larry's team is Zo clogging the paint for Blake and vice versa. Spurs Diaw at SF isn't ideal, but the same goes for DFS at SG. Uber has a cleaner fit at PF-C with Bosh stretching the floor for Dwight, but has an unreliable shooter at SF. Larry can risk the 3 from Marion to double on Steph. If so, uber has no one to initiate offense. Dwight and Bosh rely on ball handlers to set them up. In theory, Bosh is crafty enough to run isos through him. I doubt that's an efficient play. Mavs Marion is a defensive specialist. Even Steph himself is more of a SG in a PG's body rather than a PG. The exact same goes for Terry off the bench. Leaning Larry cause I think uber's team is far too reliant on Steph. Larry has the pieces to slow Steph down.

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Post#10 » by lilroddyb » Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:14 pm

Like Larry's team more overall, I think it's more balanced overall while Uber lacks secondary playmakers next to Curry imo

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Post#11 » by uberhikari » Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:52 pm

GG Larry_Russell, I knew this was going to be a tough matchup.
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Post#12 » by durantbird » Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:57 pm

flaco wrote:I think peak Kawhi was in 2017 right before the Zaza injury. 2016 is close enough. I also think Rockets Lowry is a serviceable starter in this pool. I had him fairly high on my list, especially after selecting Butler. My issue with Larry's team is Zo clogging the paint for Blake and vice versa. Spurs Diaw at SF isn't ideal, but the same goes for DFS at SG. Uber has a cleaner fit at PF-C with Bosh stretching the floor for Dwight, but has an unreliable shooter at SF. Larry can risk the 3 from Marion to double on Steph. If so, uber has no one to initiate offense. Dwight and Bosh rely on ball handlers to set them up. In theory, Bosh is crafty enough to run isos through him. I doubt that's an efficient play. Mavs Marion is a defensive specialist. Even Steph himself is more of a SG in a PG's body rather than a PG. The exact same goes for Terry off the bench. Leaning Larry cause I think uber's team is far too reliant on Steph. Larry has the pieces to slow Steph down.

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For the record, Uber picked Miami Marion. Don't know if there is any material difference between those two versions though.
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Post#13 » by durantbird » Sat Mar 2, 2024 1:04 pm

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