No Recent Champions Draft - RD1 Dr. Positivity -v- Flaco*

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No Recent Champions Draft - RD1 Dr. Positivity -v- Flaco* 

Post#1 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:50 am

Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Please ensure you give a rationale for your vote; votes with no explanation will not be counted.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

**First to 3 votes advances.**

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Post#2 » by flaco » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:16 pm

Best of luck, Dr P!

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PG: Steve Nash (36) / Jordan McLaughlin (12)
SG: Eddie Jones (36) / Thabo Sefolosha (12)
SF: Vince Carter (36) / Andrei Kirilenko (12)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko (24) / Jaren Jackson Jr. (24)
C: Amar'e Stoudemire (36) / Jaren Jackson Jr. (12)

Offense
We play at breakneck pace on the open court. By pushing the tempo, we should be able to attack before Dr P sets his D around 34-year-old Gasol. If the D is set, we spam the spread PnR and we force Gasol to defend in space. Nash-Amar'e have proven synergy in real life. Carter, EJ and AK47 provide secondary shot creation. JJJ can either roll to the basket or pop for 3.

Defense
EJ and McLaughlin are my POA defenders. Wing D against Kawhi should be strong with 5 switchable defenders on the roster. JJJ and AK47 provide defensive versatility. They can switch, drop, hedge, blitz, ice (the side PnR vs Blake), you name it. Nash pre-switches and peels off to the corners. All teams have an off-ball shooter lurking in the corners. I'd expect Christie to be that guy on Dr P's team.

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2005 Steve Nash 11.4 Image Image Image
2000 Eddie Jones 15.5 Image Image Image
2003 Andrei Kirilenko 8.0
2005 Vince Carter 20.0 Image
2007 Amar'e Stoudemire 12.9 Image Image
2023 Jaren Jackson Jr. 13.0 Image Image Image
2012 Thabo Sefolosha 3.7
2024 Jordan McLaughlin 3.0

Total: 87.5
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Post#3 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:02 pm

PG: Deron Williams (2010: 13.9 FGA)
SG: Doug Christie (2003: 7.0 FGA)
SF: Kawhi Leonard (2021: 17.5 FGA)
PF: Blake Griffin (2013: 13.4 FGA)
C: Marc Gasol (2019: 11.0 FGA)

PG: Pablo Prigioni (2014: 2.9 FGA = 3.0)
SG/SF: Danny Green (2021: 7.9 FGA)
PF/C: Paul Millsap (2015: 12.7 FGA)

86.4 / 88

PG: Deron Williams (38) / Pablo Prigioni (10)
SG: Doug Christie (34) / Danny Green (14)
SF: Kawhi Leonard (38) / Danny Green (10)
PF: Blake Griffin (36) / Paul Millsap (12)
C: Marc Gasol (34) / Paul Millsap (14)

GL flaco

Defensive matchups: Deron on Nash, Christie on Jones, Kawhi on Vince, Griffin on AK, Gasol on Amare. While Deron on Nash isn't great, Nash guarding Deron gets some of it back at least.

He has a nice fit around Nash but I believe my defensive build is stronger overall with great perimeter defenders in Kawhi and Christie and an anchor at C in Gasol, plus the difference between JJJ and Millsap's defensive impact may be overrated, with Millsap's D being an especially good fit in this series. Blake can play off AK on help D on Amare, while Amare has to guard Gasol at 3pt line. The Deron and Blake pick and roll with Raptors Gasol and shooters at SG/SF will be extremely hard to stop for a Nash/Amare team on D, and AK is stronger as a help defender than a man to man one. The fit between Kawhi, Blake and Gasol should be pretty strong with Blake in a rich man's version of Siakam's role on offense, and likewise Blake and Gasol is a rich man's Boozer and Okur in terms of the fit beside Deron. I see us having the bench advantage with Green as a stronger 7th man and Millsap matching JJJ at worst. Kawhi gives the most dominant perimeter scorer in the series to close games for us.
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Post#4 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:52 am

Were we allowed to use split seasons like 2005 Vince/2019 Gasol? I just assumed those seasons were entirely ineligible.
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Post#5 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:24 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:Were we allowed to use split seasons like 2005 Vince/2019 Gasol? I just assumed those seasons were entirely ineligible.


I think there's been a precedent in previous games of Gasol's season counting as Grizzlies
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Post#6 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:04 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Were we allowed to use split seasons like 2005 Vince/2019 Gasol? I just assumed those seasons were entirely ineligible.


I think there's been a precedent in previous games of Gasol's season counting as Grizzlies

Outright banning specific teams is a different kind of game though. The way the rules are worded made me think any season involving those teams was off the table.
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Post#7 » by Laimbeer » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:09 pm

Think we need a ruling boss.

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Post#8 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:18 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Were we allowed to use split seasons like 2005 Vince/2019 Gasol? I just assumed those seasons were entirely ineligible.


I think there's been a precedent in previous games of Gasol's season counting as Grizzlies

Outright banning specific teams is a different kind of game though. The way the rules are worded made me think any season involving those teams was off the table.


I know I've used him in this exact situation before of the Raptors being ineligible, think I've seen one or two other people doing it as well
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Post#9 » by Larry_Russell » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:18 pm

Gasol is a Grizzly in this season.

Over 50% of the games played was in Memphis, numbers dont lie.
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Post#10 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:28 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Gasol is a Grizzly in this season.

Over 50% of the games played was in Memphis, numbers dont lie.

Think this should have made more explicit in the rules - I passed on 2024 OG for that reason.

Anyway, I'll vote in a couple of hours.
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Post#11 » by durantbird » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:36 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Gasol is a Grizzly in this season.

Over 50% of the games played was in Memphis, numbers dont lie.

Think this should have made more explicit in the rules - I passed on 2024 OG for that reason.

Anyway, I'll vote in a couple of hours.

OG 24' is anyway only 46% of the games a Knick
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Post#12 » by Snakebites » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:37 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Gasol is a Grizzly in this season.

Over 50% of the games played was in Memphis, numbers dont lie.

Think this should have made more explicit in the rules - I passed on 2024 OG for that reason.

Anyway, I'll vote in a couple of hours.

OG played more games for the Raptors than the Knicks. So he’d have been ineligible by my read of the rules, while Gasol and Carter in those seasons would be eligible by my reading.
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Post#13 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:41 pm

durantbird wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Gasol is a Grizzly in this season.

Over 50% of the games played was in Memphis, numbers dont lie.

Think this should have made more explicit in the rules - I passed on 2024 OG for that reason.

Anyway, I'll vote in a couple of hours.

OG 24' is anyway only 46% of the games a Knick

You're correct, my point was more that I didn't bother to check because I figured it was a no-go.
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Post#14 » by durantbird » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:53 pm

I don't see too glaring mismatches for either side, so I'll go with the team that seems to have better chemistry, and for me it's flaco. Nash-Amar'e chemistry with Carter as another creator seems like a very strong combo, added by two superb glue guys in EJ and Kirilenko.

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Post#15 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:07 pm

Both teams are elite in the halfcourt, but it feels like flaco can get to a higher level offensively with the transition game, especially if they're consistently beating Dr P's defensive anchor down the floor. The rim protection and overall athleticism of AK-47 and JJJ are also a real competitive advantage on the defensive end in this kind of series.

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Post#16 » by Laimbeer » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:21 pm

I took like Flaco's offensive synergy. I think his defense is questionable but Dr P can't take advantage in a big enough way.

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Post#17 » by Larry_Russell » Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:51 pm

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