Predict the Wizards' record in 2011-2012

[Dat2U]

So do you think the re-build really begins with the next draft and FA? Is 2012 when we finally begin to
surround Wall with offensive help? With Young probably gone next year, it will pretty-much wipe our slate clean for re-building the offensive side of this club.

Forget FA. I don't see us being a participant again. It looks like Leonsis is focused on the long term rebuild. Only thing I see us likely doing next year is re-signing Javale.

It's all about the 2012 draft. That's were we'll have to find the second difference maker to pair with Wall, otherwise it gets real sketchy after that. As far as rebuilding the offensive side of this club. Who cares? It's about adding stars, not scorers.

[Dat2U]

But personally, I'm not sold on Wall just yet. I mean that in terms of him being able to lead the team. I know he has speed, but I want more from a PG. He has to learn to run the team and use pace. That and when he needs to score and how. From what I have seen so far, I don't know if he will get into that D Ross, CP, Kidd, Nash level or running a team. Seems more like a Gil /AI type to me and that concerns me. He really needs to round out his game and forget about the flash. My advice for Wall, ditch the Doggie and copy the style of KD. Just not sold he is the franchise guy. This team could end up being Vesleys team before it is all said and done.

Dude your talking out of your ass. What exactly has Wall done, or not done to indicate he's shooting guard masquerading as a PG? He's a 21 yr old PG learning on the job coming off one of the most impressive rookie campaigns for a PG ever. What more do you want? Is it because he didn't wow you in two preseason games after about a week of training camp? Really?

And I'm not seeing the show over substance your alluding to either. Because he danced before a game or at an all-star game? Does that make him less of player in your eyes?

And the whole "this could end up being Vesley's team" statement is outright laughable. Vesley's best case scenario is as a role player on a winning team. Maybe you think a future frontline of Vesley & Seraphin is something to build upon (you've mentioned more than once how Seraphin would likely steal McGee's starting role) but frankly I'd question whether that would be a starting quality front line in the Spain ACB League. And if this does become Vesley's team then Lord help us.

[Nivek]

My prediction: 18 wins.

[pancakes3]

Dude your talking out of your ass...

i don't agree entirely with hands but i do see where he's coming from. It probably has a lot to do with the rose comparisons. look at what Rose did to the lakers last night. that was unbelievable. time winding down, no timeout, cross fisher up and get funneled inside into help in the form of gasol and he floats it right over him - after adjusting and pulling his shot launch to the right. it was just phenomenal. if it was wall in that situation, i would think he would have done what kobe did 1 possession later - bury his head and bull his way to the rim only to get it swatted at by 3 different guys.

knowing when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em is skill that wall just doesn't have and that's worrisome. i'm not saying he's doomed but that is a deep fundamental flaw in his game.

[Nivek]

Rose didn't get funneled anywhere. He got to the middle, which is exactly where he wanted to be. He made a tough shot over Gasol, but it was the shot he wanted. Kobe is the one who got funneled -- pushed baseline into lots of help.

And by the way, Kobe's clutch reputation is so preposterously overblown it's ridiculous. I was disappointed to see the broadcast team break out that 19 game-winning baskets since 2001 stat because of how incredibly misleading it is. Henry Abbott at TrueHoop has chronicled Kobe's incredible failure rate in those situations.

[wermolwermol777]

Ugh i can't believe there are so few people more optimistic than me. Can't really say that the preseason games made me feel good about my prediction in any way, but not going to change it either. Can't wait to finally have some basketball to follow again!

[Benjammin]

17 wins. Going optimistic is rarely the right way to go.

[closg00]

I’m going with 16-50.

I’ve gone back through the thread to summarize the picks. Here’s where (I think) we stand thus far:

32-34 nuposse04

30-36 pancakes3, FAH1223

28-38 wermolwermol777, jimij
27-39 7-Day Dray, DallasShalDune
26-40 CaPtaiN eYeSaNo
25-41 dandridge 10
24-42 gesa2, fishercob
23-43 miller31time, hands11, AnotherFinn
22-44 TGW, daSwami
21-45 Nigel Tugnel, MF23
20-46 Higga, MJG, toughjuice03, Halcyon
19-47 mohammed10
18-48 zaRdsAndZeRos, FreeBalling, The Consiglieri
17-49 tontoz, floydfan29, willbcocks
16-50 Ruzious, hermitkid, verbal8, fugop, bulletproof_32
15-51 TheBigThree, Jay81, jmrosenth
14-52 Zonkerbl

12-54 sashae, no D in Hibachi, Chocolate City Jordanaire
11-55 Induveca
10-56 LyricalRico

Roughly one-more hour left to get your predictions in. Proof, can you give us the final tally before the lock-down?

I had predicted 29, but with the b2b and 3 game per weeks on the schedule, I'm afraid I have revise downward into the teens. Put me down for 19 wins.

[tkunit]

22 wins, it going to be a wild season

[greendale]

Middle of the first quarter of game one is done so I guess I am ineligible. However, I'm thinking the Wizards are better than alot believe -- I'm looking for 29 victories.

[crackhed]

18 wins i think for the wizards

[Severn Hoos]

FWIW, back on page 8 I predicted 17 wins.



But then, I may have been a bit giddy in my optimism at the time....

[nate33]

I predicted 14 wins a couple of pages ago and I'm feeling pretty good about it.

[Higga]

We may not win 20 but I guess I'm stuck with it. Think it was Dat who said in another thread we'll start off slow but finish strong.

[bulletproof_32]

Updated/ Final Predictions:

34-32 Joe_Wiz
33-33 Shorty
32-34 nuposse04

30-36 pancakes3, FAH1223
29-37 greendale
28-38 wermolwermol777, jimij
27-39 7-Day Dray, DallasShalDune
26-40 CaPtaiN eYeSaNo, Chocolate City Jordanaire
25-41 dobrojim
24-42 gesa2, fishercob, SUPERBALLMAN
23-43 miller31time, hands11, AnotherFinn
22-44 daSwami, Black Eyed Sooz, Dat2U
21-45 Nigel Tugnel, MF23, dandridge 10
20-46 Higga, MJG, toughjuice03, Halcyon, BigA
19-47 mohammed10, Hoopalotta, DaRealHibachi, closg00
18-48 zaRdsAndZeRos, FreeBalling, The Consiglieri, Nivek, crackhed
17-49 tontoz, floydfan29, willbcocks, Severn Hoos, sfam, Benjammin
16-50 Ruzious, hermitkid, verbal8, fugop, bulletproof_32
15-51 TheBigThree, Jay81, jmrosenth, Donkey McDonkerton, montestewart
14-52 Zonkerbl, TGW, nate33
13-53 JAR69
12-54 sashae, no D in Hibachi
11-55 Induveca
10-56 LyricalRico, lupin
9-57 Illuminaire

[doclinkin]

Updated/ Final Predictions:

34-32 Joe_Wiz
33-33 Shorty
32-34 nuposse04

30-36 pancakes3, FAH1223
29-37 greendale
28-38 wermolwermol777, jimij
27-39 7-Day Dray, DallasShalDune
26-40 CaPtaiN eYeSaNo, Chocolate City Jordanaire
25-41 dobrojim
24-42 gesa2, fishercob, SUPERBALLMAN
23-43 miller31time, hands11, AnotherFinn
22-44 daSwami, Black Eyed Sooz, Dat2U
21-45 Nigel Tugnel, MF23, dandridge 10
20-46 Higga, MJG, toughjuice03, Halcyon, BigA
19-47 mohammed10, Hoopalotta, DaRealHibachi, closg00
18-48 zaRdsAndZeRos, FreeBalling, The Consiglieri, Nivek, crackhed
17-49 tontoz, floydfan29, willbcocks, Severn Hoos, sfam, Benjammin
16-50 Ruzious, hermitkid, verbal8, fugop, bulletproof_32
15-51 TheBigThree, Jay81, jmrosenth, Donkey McDonkerton, montestewart
14-52 Zonkerbl, TGW, nate33
13-53 JAR69
12-54 sashae, no D in Hibachi
11-55 Induveca
10-56 LyricalRico, lupin
9-57 Illuminaire

Rats. I was offline and missed it.

Either way. The Vegas over/under for season wins was 19.5 wins. I'd take the under on that one and post at 19 wins.

[Severn Hoos]

I always suspected doc and Hoopalotta were the same person. This seals it.

[fishercob]

65-1, bitches!

[Donkey McDonkerton]

DAMN!
http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html

[The Fax]

Man I coulda sworn I posted that they'd go 16-50, is it too late?