2024 Draft Thread - Part II

[Jay81]

I dont see how Reed Sheppard is going to a bust. I really think he could be an important part of a championship team. we are not going to find our franchise cornerstone in this draft but if you are looking for a 10-12 year career guy that can help win you championships assuming you build properly....Reed is as safe as they come. Likely will win Rookie of the year next year

[Benjammin]

I am warming to Holland thanks to Dat and John Hollinger. I know I am in the minority but I would also very carefully evaluate Castle and Clingan. Dillingham and Sheppard are too small, Topic with another injury and Risacher with too many questions.

So today:

1. Sarr
2. Holland
3. Clingan/Castle

[NatP4]

7 of the remaining 8 playoff teams are playing drop coverage Cs:

Dallas: Lively/Gafford
OKC: Holmgren/Jaylin Williams
Boston: Horford/Kornet
NY: Hartenstein/Sims
Indiana: Turner/Jalen Smith
Denver: Jokic
Minny: Gobert/KAT/Reid

Only team that isn’t: Cleveland with Mobley. Got outrebounded by 16 last night, by 9 in game 3, and by 17 in game 1.

[Mizerooskie]

https://youtu.be/FmVNmKVE8lc?si=aelml3nYpbQ2GB_1

Sounds like execs are trying to evacuate this draft. Could be a good time to sell Kuz and maybe even poole shammaet for good value.

If those execs are correct on this draft, why would it be good value to trade Kuz to add another pick?

I've read/seen that some teams believe having 1st overall this year is like having as low as #10 in another draft year. That doesn't feel like a draft with a whole lot of value.

There's absolutely no rush in trading Kuz. Dawkins and Winger seem committed to a patient rebuild, and I'm with them. Some team out there will give up a future FRP (or two) for him.

[BearlyBallin]

I know little compared to the rest of you here. But I would not be upset with trading the #2 pick down a few spots and take Castle, then trade what ever we gained plus #26 to move up and take Carrington.

I’ve been thinking about Carrington at #26 but after the shooting off the dribble and 3 pt drills at the combine I feel he’ll go higher now. And Castles 3pt shooting drill now make me wonder if he moves up in the draft too…

I think the 2 of them would be a big step to setting the table for a big splash in the 2025 draft.

[NatP4]

Topic avoided serious injury. Minor knee sprain, will be full participant in NBA pre-draft activities.

Should be able to get him over to NA for measurements, medical evals, interviews etc… great news.

[NatP4]

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[Mizerooskie]

I dont see how Reed Sheppard is going to a bust. I really think he could be an important part of a championship team. we are not going to find our franchise cornerstone in this draft but if you are looking for a 10-12 year career guy that can help win you championships assuming you build properly....Reed is as safe as they come. Likely will win Rookie of the year next year

I honed in on a Payton Pritchard comp after the measurements yesterday, and can't get that out of my head. Maybe Sheppard has a bit better feel and a bit better defense, but that feels like a pretty safe projection: super offensively efficient rotation combo guard.

[tontoz]

I like Reed but i can't visualize us taking him at 2. He would have to really show out in workouts.

[tontoz]

Topic avoided serious injury. Minor knee sprain, will be full participant in NBA pre-draft activities.

Should be able to get him over to NA for measurements, medical evals, interviews etc… great news.

[NatP4]

I dont see how Reed Sheppard is going to a bust. I really think he could be an important part of a championship team. we are not going to find our franchise cornerstone in this draft but if you are looking for a 10-12 year career guy that can help win you championships assuming you build properly....Reed is as safe as they come. Likely will win Rookie of the year next year

I honed in on a Payton Pritchard comp after the measurements yesterday, and can't get that out of my head. Maybe Sheppard has a bit better feel and a bit better defense, but that feels like a pretty safe projection: super offensively efficient rotation combo guard.

In terms of measurements, he measured similarly to guys like Curry/Brunson/Trae Young. Sheppard’s freshman year production, was better than Pritchard as a senior. That floor has to be higher than Pritchard/Divincenzo/Tyus I think.

Van Fleet is closer to the floor comparison IMO. The question is the ceiling to me. Think it’s obvious that he’s a PG at the next level. His assists/usage was elite. That’s the difference between Sheppard and a McCain, who measured the same, but only had 68 total assists all year and played as an off ball guard.

Carried half the usage of guys like Young/Brunson/Curry, but historical efficiency. Something has to give at the next level. Then you have the pattern with UK guards having value/upside suppressed.

[nuposse04]

Save for standing reach, wingspan and standing vertical I'm not sure how much stock you can put in most combine measurements. Unless a player has a runway for ideal takeoff a lot of those numbers are meaningfully reproducible in game settings. Perhaps lane agility has some value but the angles aren't necessarily the same. That being said, scoring well on them should be the goal, but I'm unsure if it would really alter much of their draft stock now-a-days.

Also, hello again guys, been a while. Good to see everyone posting through the dark times

[doclinkin]

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Castle right behind Karaban on 3pt shooting at 72%.

Must be a typo, like his height. I am reliably told that Castle cannot shoot. Because its not like he is a young cat with a good work ethic who will be in the woodshop working on his jumper at all. He won a championship so no doubt he has just relaxed since then.

[80sballboy]

All the measurements and shooting wide open shots with no defenders is fine. Let's see how some of these guys do in 5-on-5's today.

[80sballboy]

Wasserman's review of Day 1
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10120912-nba-draft-combine-takes-grading-top-bigs-kus-big-leaper-and-the-bronny-james-show

[closg00]

Topic avoided serious injury. Minor knee sprain, will be full participant in NBA pre-draft activities.

Should be able to get him over to NA for measurements, medical evals, interviews etc… great news.

Ha!!!

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[Dat2U]

I haven’t watched very much of this year’s class yet but I can totally see KOC’s Bones Hyland comp for Dillingham and that is not remotely what you want at #2. I watched a bunch of the non-college guys early in the year and wasn’t impressed with any of them and I know this year’s college crop is weak too…just a tough year for the draft but it sounds like Sarr had some serious development this year. I know Hollinger mentioned Sarr’s jumper has a sideways rotation to it though; not what you want to hear for a big that doesn’t seem to want to mix it up inside.


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It's a lazy comp. Bones had full on tunnel vision, been frezing out teammates since college. Was always a gunner. Dilly has real PG skill and showed he could play the position at UK.

[AFM]

Reed Sheppard confirmed light skin???

[tontoz]

Topic avoided serious injury. Minor knee sprain, will be full participant in NBA pre-draft activities.

Should be able to get him over to NA for measurements, medical evals, interviews etc… great news.

Ha!!!

Arent you the one that said resigning Deni was a bad idea?

[doclinkin]

Reed Sheppard confirmed light skin???

As Nate suggested, he clearly tanked the standing reach to make his max vertical look better. I even said his athletic measurements at the combine would look better than expected, but part of that is that he knows how to game the system. He does not have a 42" vert.

Waiting on the real official numbers on the NBA site. Devin Carter showing up large in the athletics makes 100% sense given his numbers vs his size. I like the guy.