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Bradley Beal - Part II

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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1961 » by dckingsfan » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:11 pm

I would be shocked if Ernie DIDN'T get burned again :)
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Post#1962 » by doclinkin » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:38 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/jorgeccastillo/status/687319960885030913[/tweet]

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For the rest of his career?

I had assumed this stress fracture issue was mostly related to his bones still being young and finalizing the growth process, and that the issue would recede as Beal matures physically. But if he has a minutes limit for the rest of his career, that absolutely has to be a factor in his free agency value. Do you really pay a guy max dollars when he can only play 28 minutes a game and he can't even work out as extensively as one would like?


Sign at a discount. Then Wire him up. LINK. Linked to his tracking and stats. Then build a Phoenix Suns style sports medicine department, with medical tracking software etc. Make our Wiz a squad of bio organic cyborgs with nutritional ninjas and training room genies.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1963 » by nate33 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:50 pm

Rafael122 wrote:His agent lost leverage when Beal publicly came out and said "yeah my minutes will have to be monitored for the rest of my career." It's not like this kid is 33 and is on the down slope of his career. He's 22 years old! MAYBE this is a growth thing and MAYBE it heals. MAYBE some team offers him the max just to mess around and forces the Wiz to match. But I'm not willing to take that risk. I don't know how NBA contracts work, but if they can add incentives that Beal could reach that would increase the total value of the contract then that's what I'd do. 4 yr/$60 million as a base. More money depending on games played. You just don't offer the kid the max and then have this same situation happen every year, missing 20-25 games. I would be shocked if Ernie got burned on this again.

Beal is in a no win situation here. He could play out his RFA contract and be UFA but risks the potential of this happening again next season thus hurting his value even more (think about it, 5 straight years with a stress reaction). Or he could take an offer that's less than the max. The bright side is, he would be entering the prime of his career when his contract runs out. He's got youth going for him.

It is unlikely that we will be in position to negotiate a contract like this. Beal is going to wait for the best offer from another team, and we will have 2 choices: match it or not. I'd refrain from matching anything higher than $15M a year unless we had already signed Durant. (If we sign Durant, we're all in and we may as well match any offer for Beal since we'd be exceeding the cap anyway.)
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1964 » by keynote » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:07 pm

Oof. Another J. Michael special. :nonono:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/morning-tip-real-deal-when-it-comes-bradley-beal

Bradley Beal is a max player, and barring any unfortunate circumstances such as a season-ending injury, he'll be paid like one this summer when the Wizards' oft-injured shooting guard hits the market.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1965 » by AFM » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:31 pm

I call J Michael and Chris Miller Dumb and Dumber.

It's a shame they have jobs offering "commentary" while Kevin Broom runs his website out of his garage and barely survives off of Ramen and Nabsico crackers.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1966 » by Kanyewest » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:39 pm

I'm not sure if Beal is a max player but I definitely see at least one team giving max dollars or close to it. Wes Matthews coming off Achilles surgery got more than $17 million dollars a year.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1967 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Kanyewest wrote:I'm not sure if Beal is a max player but I definitely see at least one team giving max dollars or close to it. Wes Matthews coming off Achilles surgery got more than $17 million dollars a year.

It must've been good surgery, since he scored 36 points against the Wiz early in his first season with Dallas.
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Post#1968 » by TheSecretWeapon » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:13 pm

keynote wrote:Oof. Another J. Michael special. :nonono:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/morning-tip-real-deal-when-it-comes-bradley-beal

Bradley Beal is a max player, and barring any unfortunate circumstances such as a season-ending injury, he'll be paid like one this summer when the Wizards' oft-injured shooting guard hits the market.

J.Michael said Kevin Seraphin would get $8-10 million this past offseason. He wrote that Seraphin was looking for $12 million per year on a four or five year deal, but that the Wizards didn't want to go that high for a backup. He wrote that Seraphin would command more on the open market.

Seraphin signed with the Knicks for one year at $2.8 million.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1969 » by Dark Faze » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:26 pm

j michael doesn't know anything

i dont think he gets a max offer from others if we don't make the playoffs--give him a national stage to perform well on though again and its a lock
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1970 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:40 pm

keynote wrote:Oof. Another J. Michael special. :nonono:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/morning-tip-real-deal-when-it-comes-bradley-beal

Bradley Beal is a max player, and barring any unfortunate circumstances such as a season-ending injury, he'll be paid like one this summer when the Wizards' oft-injured shooting guard hits the market.

I really can't stand that guy. Absolutely no journalistic integrity. Might as well be working directly for Monumental Sports.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1971 » by keynote » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:54 pm

DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
keynote wrote:Oof. Another J. Michael special. :nonono:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/morning-tip-real-deal-when-it-comes-bradley-beal

Bradley Beal is a max player, and barring any unfortunate circumstances such as a season-ending injury, he'll be paid like one this summer when the Wizards' oft-injured shooting guard hits the market.

I really can't stand that guy. Absolutely no journalistic integrity. Might as well be working directly for Monumental Sports.


You could argue that affirming Beal's too-high asking price hurts Monumental instead of helping them. But perhaps Ted feels that other suitors will get scared off by this talk, freeing them up to having a one-on-one negotiation with Beal for something less than the max.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1972 » by Kanyewest » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:59 pm

Nate Duncan says that somebody is going to max out Beal unless he misses the rest of the year because he is young and there is a lot of money out there.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240383/Duncd-On-Mailbag-Edition
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1973 » by Ruzious » Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:08 pm

keynote wrote:Oof. Another J. Michael special. :nonono:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/basketball-washington-wizards/talk/morning-tip-real-deal-when-it-comes-bradley-beal

Bradley Beal is a max player, and barring any unfortunate circumstances such as a season-ending injury, he'll be paid like one this summer when the Wizards' oft-injured shooting guard hits the market.

This is the same J. Michael who said - more than once - that Kevin Seraphin was going to get $10 million annually. Seraphin actually got a 1 year 2.8 million contract. And it's not like he at least gives valid believable reasons for his opinions that turn out to be completely wrong. J Michael is a complete amateur getting propped up as a professional.

Edit - oops, sorry I missed Kevin's more accurate post.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1974 » by Kanyewest » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:39 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:I'm not sure if Beal is a max player but I definitely see at least one team giving max dollars or close to it. Wes Matthews coming off Achilles surgery got more than $17 million dollars a year.

It must've been good surgery, since he scored 36 points against the Wiz early in his first season with Dallas.


Yeah, Matthews averaged 32 ppg against the Wizards; although for the season he is only averaging 13 ppg.
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1975 » by deneem4 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:06 am

He keeps the defense honest....
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
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Re: Bradley Beal - Part II 

Post#1976 » by nate33 » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:50 pm

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