Game Thread: WAS @ ORL

The Fax · Post #241 » by **The Fax** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:00 am

Ruzious wrote:
You tell me - who should he have been setting up?

I don't know what to tell you. But I do know that he did way more last season than just wait to dish it to Young off a screen and hit the occasional McGee ally-oop.

Besides, if you want to argue about the talent level around Wall, how do you explain Steve Nash having 3 9+ assist games with that crap fest of a Suns roster around him?

JWizmentality · Post #242 » by **JWizmentality** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:00 am

Glad we didn't break the bank on blatche.

TheBigThree · Post #243 » by **TheBigThree** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:00 am

I only watched a few minutes of the game because, let's be honest, the outcome of this one was obvious.

However, every time I tuned in I couldn't believe how TERRIBLE McGee's positioning on rebounding. It's like no one ever told him how to box out. This team is dumb but I see no signs of coaching at all.

It's embarrassing.

Post #244 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:10 am

The Fax wrote:
Besides, if you want to argue about the talent level around Wall, how do you explain Steve Nash having 3 9+ assist games with that crap fest of a Suns roster around him?

Well, one guy is Steve Nash, and the other guy, he is considerably not Steve Nash.

Post #245 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:14 am

The Fax wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
You tell me - who should he have been setting up?

I don't know what to tell you. But I do know that he did way more last season than just wait to dish it to Young off a screen and hit the occasional McGee ally-oop.

Besides, if you want to argue about the talent level around Wall, how do you explain Steve Nash having 3 9+ assist games with that crap fest of a Suns roster around him?

Young was completely useless in the first half. He was 0 fer at least his first 6 shots. McGee was in way over his head against the best defensive big man in the game.

Steve Nash is surrounded by guys with 3 point range. That's because they look to get guys like Channing Frye and Markeiff Morris - not great players by any means - but they fit with Nash.

ST21 · Post #246 » by **ST21** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:18 am

how does wall have 5 assists at half and finsih with 5?

he flat out sucks this year. i don't care about how many games we win but i want to see improvement from our "franchise player". he is worse in every category this year. he might really be a bust.

hands11 · Post #247 » by **hands11** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:23 am

So how you'll doing ?

Is it time for me to post another blonde joke ?

closg00 · Post #248 » by **closg00** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:30 am

ST21 wrote:how does wall have 5 assists at half and finsih with 5?

he flat out sucks this year. i don't care about how many games we win but i want to see improvement from our "franchise player". he is worse in every category this year. he might really be a bust.

Rose, Rondo, & Evans didn't have shots either and they are all doing fine now. Philly hired a shooting coach for Turner.

Ted & Ernie erred badly with the slow-rebuild plan. Wall also needs real talent around him NOW, not later.

GhostsOfGil · Post #249 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:30 am

ST21 wrote:how does wall have 5 assists at half and finsih with 5?

he flat out sucks this year. i don't care about how many games we win but i want to see improvement from our "franchise player". he is worse in every category this year. he might really be a bust.

I'm not quite there yet but I am starting to get the feeling this kid not at all what we thought he would be.

hands11 wrote:So how you'll doing ?

Is it time for me to post another blonde joke ?

hands11 · Post #250 » by **hands11** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:32 am

Dude.

Between the board melting down and this crazy girl calling me, I need some laughter.

Why are some women so freakn crazy ? She made me lose my freakn appetite.

mohammed10 · Post #251 » by **mohammed10** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:33 am

closg00 wrote:
ST21 wrote:how does wall have 5 assists at half and finsih with 5?

he flat out sucks this year. i don't care about how many games we win but i want to see improvement from our "franchise player". he is worse in every category this year. he might really be a bust.

Rose, Rondo, & Evans didn't have shots either and they are all doing fine now. Philly hired a shooting coach for Turner.

Ted & Ernie erred badly with the slow-rebuild plan. Wall also needs real talent around him NOW, not later.

I think many of us on this here board agree. Now if we could only get this insight to Ted.

popper · Post #252 » by **popper** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:40 am

Wall and McGee will be fine with the right kind of leadership. Blatch, EG and Saunders need to go ASAP.

sfam · Post #253 » by **sfam** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:54 am

just1bullet wrote:We have been watching these guys in week to week, month to month, year to year shoot decade to decade....same story over and over. This franchise does the same thing every time..falls in love with three or four guys, think they are going to "get it", wait for to work and find out they are a bunch of knuckle heads that waisted all our time and the franchise's money....Let's try something different blow it up now and try again and save three years of frustration!

Newsflash: We already blew up the team. That's why Arenas, Caron and Antwan are no longer here. The team done got blown up - what you're seeing now is the aftermath.

Its not pretty, I agree. They also didn't blow enough up - we all agree that Blatche should have gone like 20 years back, but that hasn't happened yet. Bottom line, blowing up a completely destroyed building isn't gonna make it play lots better. We gotta figure how to build something again, not blow something up. I personally am OK with most of the people they've brought in the last two years.

We can also argue whether or not Flip's expiry date has past. I think its clear to most that it probably has, but again, having no training camp with this roster is gonna lead to some real serious ****, no matter who the coach is. We all agree though that if they keep playing without effort, the coach will be leaving earlier rather than later - how early is clearly a point of contention.

sfam · Post #254 » by **sfam** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:57 am

Jay81 wrote:this is the worst basketball team I have ever seen....who assembled this piece of ****? every game this season before i eat my first potatoe chip, we are down by 18 in the 1st quarter.

Thank God this season just started and didnt start in Late October.

If I could give you some constructive criticism? I'd definitely open the bag of chips earlier... :wink:

sfam · Post #255 » by **sfam** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:59 am

hands11 wrote:Dude.

Between the board melting down and this crazy girl calling me, I need some laughter.

Why are some women so freakn crazy ? She made me lose my freakn appetite.

Here's my attempt for laughter - for some reason this post reminds me of the horrid redneck joke... "Research has shown that 70% of women abused by their spouses JUST DON'T LISTEN!!!!"

J the Drafter · Post #256 » by **J the Drafter** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:01 am

hands11 wrote:Dude.

Between the board melting down and this crazy girl calling me, I need some laughter.

Why are some women so freakn crazy ? She made me lose my freakn appetite.

Provided.
That Mitchell and Web Look: Angel Summoner and BMX Bandit

sfam · Post #257 » by **sfam** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:02 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
ST21 wrote:how does wall have 5 assists at half and finsih with 5?

he flat out sucks this year. i don't care about how many games we win but i want to see improvement from our "franchise player". he is worse in every category this year. he might really be a bust.

I'm not quite there yet but I am starting to get the feeling this kid not at all what we thought he would be.

I still think Wall is gonna be awesome. The fact that he has some bad games early in season two when surrounded by a truly rotten team does not change my opinion of him. I'm totally OK giving Wall a long leash - he will get it.

Fact is its clear that Wall is having real trust issues with his team right now. Given his team, I can't blame him!

Jimmy Recard · Post #258 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 4:46 am

Wall looks like a zombie out there. As does Young and most of the other guys in the rotation. The only guys that have made a conscious effort out there are Booker, Singleton, Seraphin (even though he can't play) and for the most part, Mcgee. I've defended Flip over the last year, but when your troops are no longer responding to you or your instruction, then you need to go.

I can live with watching a rebuilding team who wins few games as long as i see some effort, improvement and then progress at some point. But i just don't see if from this group. It's one thing to lose, but they're not even competitive. I've seen younger, less talented teams around the league that have been more disciplined, played harder and smarter and executed better than this team ever has.

They can't score, rebound, or stop anyone. That's a recipe for not just the worst team in the league, but a historically awful team. They shouldn't be THAT bad. Flip needs to go.

MD's Finest · Post #259 » by **MD's Finest** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 5:10 am

Jimmy Recard wrote:Wall looks like a zombie out there. As does Young and most of the other guys in the rotation. The only guys that have made a conscious effort out there are Booker, Singleton, Seraphin (even though he can't play) and for the most part, Mcgee. I've defended Flip over the last year, but when your troops are no longer responding to you or your instruction, then you need to go.

I can live with watching a rebuilding team who wins few games as long as i see some effort, improvement and then progress at some point. But i just don't see if from this group. It's one thing to lose, but they're not even competitive. I've seen younger, less talented teams around the league that have been more disciplined, played harder and smarter and executed better than this team ever has.

They can't score, rebound, or stop anyone. That's a recipe for not just the worst team in the league, but a historically awful team. They shouldn't be THAT bad. Flip needs to go.

Ernie fired EJ when he was 1-8 I believe with his top player and starting center out of commision so you figure Flip has to be on thin Ice plus you figure EG is fighting for his job as well so he cant let whats going on keep going, truth is Ted should fire EG and just let the new guy figure out the coaching situation, its time to let someone else try to build this. We might not need to blow it up but we need to add some real talent to go with Wall and some of our other young guys and move some of these guys out of here and by some of these guys I mean Blatche.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #260 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Thu Jan 5, 2012 5:42 am

popper wrote:Wall and McGee will be fine with the right kind of leadership. Blatch, EG and Saunders need to go ASAP.

+1

Seems to me the best plan would be to fire Flip and EG and to promote Wittman to interim coach. Let someone like Tommy Sheppard be the acting GM. Get rid of Tapscott, too.

Wittman needs to do just two things: (1) Start Booker in place of Blatche. (2)Start Singleton in place of Lewis

Another thing the team should consider is to just go ahead and deactivate Rashard Lewis. He's not able to play well enough to make a difference. He's not part of the future. I would just as soon see the Wizards bring back Larry Owens to play defense well and provide energy. The veteran SF who might be helpful is Mo Evans.

If the Wizards would run with Wall, Young, Singleton, Booker, and McGee at least they would be energetic and have guys running the court.