Wall out 8 weeks with injury to patella

[BruceO]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

[Higga]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

I miss those 45 win teams. I remember at the time saying I wish we could bottom out so we could rebuild a contender, but after this disaster of a start I'd rather go back to those days. No we'd never win a title but who cares? It's almost impossible to win in the rigged ass NBA anyway. At least we'd have entertaining basketball for 6 months a year to bridge the gap between NFL and MLB.

[AFM]

That WizCavs series....first home game....when Arenas came up out of the ground for his introduction with his hands in the air...VC went crazy...sigh

[hands11]

You can tell when he is going to miss before it gets to the basket. Its when he doesn't release all in one motion but instead hold it a moment to long after he jumps. Its when there is a hitch in his shot. When he jumps, crocks and release all in one smooth motion, it goes in.

Actually hands nailed it. When it goes in, it's smooth and there's really no hitch. When he misses, there is a slight hitch. Not perfect, but I do see progress.

Also happy to see him shooting 3s. Hopefully he'll add that back in to his game this year.

He looks like it's only a matter of time before he's playing again. Maybe sometime next week?

Appreciate that DAT.

Hey, what would be good practice for Wall would be to practice shooting like Gil was. One handed. That would teach him to get that guide hand off the ball and remove the hitch. Can't hitch it if you can't hold it. Not unless you have Shaq hands.

He needs to learn to trust the process/form of shooting. You can tell he is still trying to guide/feel the shot to much. You can't he a good shooter if you are doing that.

Targeting with eyes and getting his body into the right position to enter the shot should be 100% of his focus.
Knees bent. Elbow and wrist cooked. Ball held off the palm of the hand.
Then just take the energy from your legs up and through the elbow and flick the wrist.

If he gets the mechanics of getting into the right position and balanced going into the shot and his eyes are set on the target at a consistent point ( front of rim/back of rim), the rest should just be muscle memory.

The actually shooting part shouldn't even he something he thinks about. All his mental energy needs to be on getting to a spot to be able to shoot or looking the ball into his hands for the catch and shoot. And balance. And getting his body into the shooting position. That and targeting the rim. Shooting shouldn't even enter his mind. That should be a reflect that follows all those other things.

That's my two cents.

[hands11]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

I miss those 45 win teams. I remember at the time saying I wish we could bottom out so we could rebuild a contender, but after this disaster of a start I'd rather go back to those days. No we'd never win a title but who cares? It's almost impossible to win in the rigged ass NBA anyway. At least we'd have entertaining basketball for 6 months a year to bridge the gap between NFL and MLB.

I don't miss it. It was fun the first year they got to the playoffs. After that, I personally had already given up on Gil leading them anywhere. DS was a fool. AJ had no D. I liked Haywood and Caron when healthy. Hated EFJ and this weave and heave no D ways.

They could have transitioned that team into something but the Gil contract killed that as did the EFJ and AJ extensions.

I knew the rebuild would be painful and wins would be hard to come by. Surely I would have made lots of different decisions then they made but this team is going to establish a new more solid baseline this year then what we have seen. Injuries over the summer crashed any chance of them getting off to decent start. Hell, they even had injuries since the year has started that add to the problem.

Nene, Wall and Kevin all out was killer. No Nene is one thing. But then Kevin was hurt. And no Wall. No way.
Add Singleton got hurt. Booker is now hurt. Livingston even missed a game. Hell even Pargo was hurt during preseason.

Just to much for a rebuild team like this to over come. Specially with a new coach and more new players.

They will look better. Most of us thought they would be near .500 when healthy. A defensive team with Wall and Nene as the core. I can still see them becoming that. Actually, I think they could be even a little better because back then we had no idea Webster would be this good or that they team would be adding Livingston.

And even with all of that, they were still in most games. A little more scoring ability would have helped a lot.

For now, they have everyone mostly back except Wall. Now its up to Randy to get the line up right.

[TheKingOfVa360]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

I miss those 45 win teams. I remember at the time saying I wish we could bottom out so we could rebuild a contender, but after this disaster of a start I'd rather go back to those days. No we'd never win a title but who cares? It's almost impossible to win in the rigged ass NBA anyway. At least we'd have entertaining basketball for 6 months a year to bridge the gap between NFL and MLB.

I was thinking that yesterday, I miss those treadmill teams. I loved rooting for them and they were exciting to watch. The current Wizards are boring and I can't connect with most of the current players. This team will probably never win a title in my lifetime thanks to the NBA being so rigged.

[Zonkerbl]

It's weird, Wall seems to have his off hand halfway wrapped around the ball.

[Knighthonor]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

I miss those 45 win teams. I remember at the time saying I wish we could bottom out so we could rebuild a contender, but after this disaster of a start I'd rather go back to those days. No we'd never win a title but who cares? It's almost impossible to win in the rigged ass NBA anyway. At least we'd have entertaining basketball for 6 months a year to bridge the gap between NFL and MLB.

I don't miss it. It was fun the first year they got to the playoffs. After that, I personally had already given up on Gil leading them anywhere. DS was a fool. AJ had no D. I liked Haywood and Caron when healthy. Hated EFJ and this weave and heave no D ways.

They could have transitioned that team into something but the Gil contract killed that as did the EFJ and AJ extensions.

I knew the rebuild would be painful and wins would be hard to come by. Surely I would have made lots of different decisions then they made but this team is going to establish a new more solid baseline this year then what we have seen. Injuries over the summer crashed any chance of them getting off to decent start. Hell, they even had injuries since the year has started that add to the problem.

Nene, Wall and Kevin all out was killer. No Nene is one thing. But then Kevin was hurt. And no Wall. No way.
Add Singleton got hurt. Booker is now hurt. Livingston even missed a game. Hell even Pargo was hurt during preseason.

Just to much for a rebuild team like this to over come. Specially with a new coach and more new players.

They will look better. Most of us thought they would be near .500 when healthy. A defensive team with Wall and Nene as the core. I can still see them becoming that. Actually, I think they could be even a little better because back then we had no idea Webster would be this good or that they team would be adding Livingston.

And even with all of that, they were still in most games. A little more scoring ability would have helped a lot.

For now, they have everyone mostly back except Wall. Now its up to Randy to get the line up right.

YEAH BUT COULDN'T THEY HAVE DECIDED TO GET HURT NEXT YEAR WHEN IT COUNTED? (#WIGGINS2DC)


I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF STERN GIVES THE CAVS WIGGINS

HE GOT TO GO IF HE DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!

[Knighthonor]

I was over on sb nation and the Philly guys were talking about how nick young reps the opposite of what they want from a ball player but how they just love him anyway.. Personality, his love for the game. It's been a while since Philly had a character like that on their team. Made me think damn they should have seen the wizards.. Nick, dray, javale, Gilbert, deshawns can't feel my face, Caron, AD complaining to nick torun plays, aj flipping shots Ethan and Haywood beefing, songaila.. Ruffin all in one spot. And pech I get mad buckets son. I miss that team

I miss those 45 win teams. I remember at the time saying I wish we could bottom out so we could rebuild a contender, but after this disaster of a start I'd rather go back to those days. No we'd never win a title but who cares? It's almost impossible to win in the rigged ass NBA anyway. At least we'd have entertaining basketball for 6 months a year to bridge the gap between NFL and MLB.

I don't miss it. It was fun the first year they got to the playoffs. After that, I personally had already given up on Gil leading them anywhere. DS was a fool. AJ had no D. I liked Haywood and Caron when healthy. Hated EFJ and this weave and heave no D ways.

They could have transitioned that team into something but the Gil contract killed that as did the EFJ and AJ extensions.

I knew the rebuild would be painful and wins would be hard to come by. Surely I would have made lots of different decisions then they made but this team is going to establish a new more solid baseline this year then what we have seen. Injuries over the summer crashed any chance of them getting off to decent start. Hell, they even had injuries since the year has started that add to the problem.

Nene, Wall and Kevin all out was killer. No Nene is one thing. But then Kevin was hurt. And no Wall. No way.
Add Singleton got hurt. Booker is now hurt. Livingston even missed a game. Hell even Pargo was hurt during preseason.

Just to much for a rebuild team like this to over come. Specially with a new coach and more new players.

They will look better. Most of us thought they would be near .500 when healthy. A defensive team with Wall and Nene as the core. I can still see them becoming that. Actually, I think they could be even a little better because back then we had no idea Webster would be this good or that they team would be adding Livingston.

And even with all of that, they were still in most games. A little more scoring ability would have helped a lot.

For now, they have everyone mostly back except Wall. Now its up to Randy to get the line up right.

YEAH BUT COULDN'T THEY HAVE DECIDED TO GET HURT NEXT YEAR WHEN IT COUNTED? (#WIGGINS2DC)


I AM GOING TO BE PISSED IF STERN GIVES THE CAVS WIGGINS

HE GOT TO GO IF HE DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT!!!

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

I think Wall returns at home against GSW.

[vinceWin]

I think Wall returns at home against GSW.

Source?

[Knighthonor]

I think Wall returns at home against GSW.

Source?

this........

[MJG]

I think Wall returns at home against GSW.

Source?

Original source for that quote is right here. Here's the relevant snippet from the link:

I think Wall returns at home against GSW.

[LyricalRico]

[nate33]

One small silver lining is that we have played the fewest games out of every team in the league. The average team has played 16 or 17 games. The busiest teams have played 18 games. We have played just 14 games and have just one game between now and Friday.

At least our schedule has been slow during the time period with Wall out.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

IRC Beal made a TON of shots in an empty gym during pre-draft exercises. I'll believe Wall's improved his jumper during real game action. It is encouraging that he's making sharp cuts and looks like he has a spring in his step.

I think Walls return will be a lot like Kevin Loves return. Out of no where he'll just start playing. Speaking of Love--anyone subscribe to the Ewing theory? Wolves were 5-4 w/o love and 1-4 with him...

I do. He's the best player on the court but they play often play better without him. I think Kirilenko being out is affecting the Wolves some, but IIRC they lost with Love and Kirilenko in the lineup also.

Kevin Love will need to improve his defense to become an all time great. I don't doubt he can do it.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You can tell when he is going to miss before it gets to the basket. Its when he doesn't release all in one motion but instead hold it a moment to long after he jumps. Its when there is a hitch in his shot. When he jumps, crocks and release all in one smooth motion, it goes in.

Actually hands nailed it. When it goes in, it's smooth and there's really no hitch. When he misses, there is a slight hitch. Not perfect, but I do see progress.

Also happy to see him shooting 3s. Hopefully he'll add that back in to his game this year.

He looks like it's only a matter of time before he's playing again. Maybe sometime next week?

I'm upset because I burned claiming a player off the waiver wire just before I saw the Wall video. Somebody in fantasy league had waived Wall. I saw the video and thought like Dat, John Wall is weeks if not days away from returning.

The form on his jumper is definitely better.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

One small silver lining is that we have played the fewest games out of every team in the league. The average team has played 16 or 17 games. The busiest teams have played 18 games. We have played just 14 games and have just one game between now and Friday.

At least our schedule has been slow during the time period with Wall out.

I noticed that, too, nate.

The Wizards have the most games left and this roster is altogether better with Nene playing. They're going to be over .500 with Wall. I told my son the Wizards are going to win a lot of games before the season. His respectful response: "This time you've gone too far, dad. No way. The Wizards suck."

I think they've been through the worst of it and should bounce back pretty strong. It really depends on how many games Nene suits up. I hope Wall does not experience typical Wizards luck. When he comes back I hope and sort of expect he's going to be okay. Shutting him down a long time has been the right thing. No matter how many losses.

As for my predictions, young dude didn't believe me when I said Texax A&M would beat Alabama. Didn't believe Oregon would lose to Stanford. Really didn't believe Baylor was going to be Kansas St. I have not missed much this year. Felt good about the Skins at Dallas. Tonight, I don't even think the game will be close. Skins are going to stomp an overconfident Giants team.

[pancakes3]

a sliver of silver

[Jimmy Recard]

It must be rough for Randy Wittman constantly being asked for updates on John Wall's recovery, particularly when he doesn't have much information to provide. After Sunday's practice, Wittman expressed his frustration with Wall's situation to reporters, as chronicled by Ben Standig (HT: Ball Don't Lie):

"Until the doctor says he's ready to go full bore. I don't know what to tell you guys," said Wittman, repeating his usual mantra about Wall - and done in good spirits despite the bummer of the situation. Clearly the coach of the 1-13 team wants his fast-breaking leader back. This time Wittman added a line for emphasis to show he's not simply deflecting.

But as hard as it has to be dealing with the media on a constant basis, it sounds like he's getting it just as bad once he gets home:

Wittman said, "I'm serious. I tell my mom, ‘I don't know.' She asks me every day, too. ‘When's John coming back?' ‘I don't know mom.' "

While I'm sure Randy appreciates his mother's concern and interest level in his job, but I get the feeling he'd rather be discussing holiday plans right now.

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2012/12/3 ... mom-mother