2011 DRAFT blather goes here. Part 3...

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Btw, when is the lottery?? Is it this week?

[SUPERBALLMAN]

This may of been posted before... but this is from nbadraft.net

Jan Vesely 6-11 230 SF/PF Czech Republic 1990 The Wizards are extremely high on Vesely and it's unlikely they would allow him to slip by them at 4. He's is ultra long and athletic and has the ability to play either forward position. He's a tweener but a good tweener in the sense that he can create mismatches due to his size. He will need to add strength and could struggle some guarding on the perimeter due to lack of foot speed, but his incredible length and improving skill set make him a projected high lottery pick. He's been compared to both Dunleavy's (Mike senior and junior) due to his shooting ability and adroit ball handling skills. He has had a strong end to the season for Partizan Belgrade after starting off slowly.

I can see this being Ernie's guy considering his past picks of Nowitzki and Pecherov.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I'd be very pleased if we come out of the draft with Kanter, Singleton and Hansbrough.

I could see all 3 contributing sooner rather than later. A Kanter/McGee rotation at Center (and Seraphin), at PF we got Blatche and Booker, SF Lewis and Singleton, SG Young and Crawford, and PG Wall backed up by Hansbrough.

Of course players can move up or down (Young at SF, Crawford at PG, Lewis at PF, Kanter at PF, and so on). But I love the thought of adding Kanter's low post offense, pick n pop, rebounding, size, and effort, with the blue collar game, athleticism and lock-down D of Singleton to our frontcourt. Hanbrough's just a gritty PG who can knock the 3 to give Wall some backup.

But I like the way those 3 would fill out our roster and rotation.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

More on Singleton at #18...

Draftexpress: "players of Singleton's nature who are capable of locking down multiple positions, rebounding out of their area and scoring in transition (off cuts to the basket and second chance opportunities on the offensive glass) are valuable assets"

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chr ... z1MTfwqdNG
http://www.draftexpress.com


Singleton would be a perfect fit for this team. This team is still in need of toughness, and Singleton adds that. He is what Jeffries was trying to be. He is immediately a defensive sub for Lewis' offensive SF game. I mean at times we can throw McGee, Booker and Singleton at opposing teams when we want a defensive spark. Singleton would be nice to have on the floor with Nick Young at SG and Blatche at PF.

And I believe he will continue to improve offensively, and can score now on hustle plays and fast breaks. Defensively he's a guy we can stick on guys like LeBron, Pierce, Durant. But Singleton is a guy we can add who instantly makes the Wizards a good defensive team. With Singleton and Kanter to bolster the frontcourt with Blatche, McGee, Booker, Seraphin and Lewis, and this team is suddenly looking big, long, athletic and tough. The Wizards tough???!!! But that is the direction we can go, and I would love it.

Add to that the backcourt of Wall, Young, Crawford, (and Hansbrough??) and this team is full of defensive potential and hustle. Imagine the hustle and effort of the Wizards at the end of the season, but with more talent. But Singleton would be a very welcome addition to this team, especially in rotation with the other SF options of this team Lewis and Young.

[sfam]

Yeah, yeah, be all practical. Just get me Kanter, OK?

And yes, seriously, I hope we can resign Nick at a reasonable level that will make everyone happy.

With Wall bringing up the possibility, unsolicited, of picking Kanter 1st overall, you'd have to think he is in management's ear about this. Wall also has the inside skinny on Kanter through his Kentucky connections, so I'm sure he isn't basing his desire off of wild unsupported speculation.

How much do you guys think it would cost to go from 4 or 5 to #2? Who on our team, and what picks would you give up to get there, whether for Kanter, or Williams?

Yeah Wall's comments do help alleviate some of my concerns about Kanter. I mean the reporter asked him about Williams and Wall was like yeah Williams (agreeing w/ the reporter) OR Enes Kanter (on his own unprovoked). I have to think Wall has played w/ Kanter at some point in some form or fashion.

I totally hope we get Williams, but if we get Kanter I will be happy.

I almost hope we get Kanter over Williams - not because Kanter is better, but because I think they'll be enough SFs in next year's draft that we should be able to get a pretty decent one, while our chances of getting a solid BIG are diminished.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

If we don't move up on the lottery, I'm beginning to think we ought to stretch on Tristan Thompson.

He's pretty much guaranteed to be a solid pro... A great post defender and rebounder.

Taking him would allow us target a more one dimentional guy like Jordan Hamilton at 18 and/or Marshon Brooks with the second rounder.

I could roll with:

Wall/Crawford
N1/Brooks
Lewis/Hamilton
Thompson/Booker
Blatche/Mcgee

with Seraphin + 2 d leaguers

If that team could scrape together 40 wins and create some Buzz, we might just have the juice and the young assets for a Howard sign and trade next summer.

[thinker07]

If we don't move up on the lottery, I'm beginning to think we ought to stretch on Tristan Thompson.

He's pretty much guaranteed to be a solid pro... A great post defender and rebounder.

Taking him would allow us target a more one dimentional guy like Jordan Hamilton at 18 and/or Marshon Brooks with the second rounder.

I could roll with:

Wall/Crawford
N1/Brooks
Lewis/Hamilton
Thompson/Booker
Blatche/Mcgee

with Seraphin + 2 d leaguers

If that team could scrape together 40 wins and create some Buzz, we might just have the juice and the young assets for a Howard sign and trade next summer.

This lines up with what I've advocated - except if I had to reach I'd reach for Markieff Morris instead of Thompkins because the latter is simply too limited offensively. I think Morris will also be a solid longterm pro AND is much more ready to play now.

And I think Howard gets traded as soon as the labor situation is resolved. And it won't be to the Wiz because part of the asking price will be to take back Gil and we won't do that.

[theboomking]

I love all of the Singleton talk. I've been advocating for a Kanter, Singleton, Diebler draft for a while now. I think that would really set the table for us to add Bradley Beal, or Jeremy Lamb next year and be fairly set. Imagine the length on this team, if over the next 2 drafts, we added Kanter, Lamb, and Singleton.

PG:Wall
SG:Lamb
SF:Singleton
PF:Kanter
C:McGee

That should be a great defensive team. Your PG has the length of a SG, your SG the length of a SF, your SF the length of a PF, your PF has good length, and we all know about JaVale's length.

The problem is, it just isn't going to happen. We don't have the best odds of picking high enough to add Kanter. As such, we'd probably have to trade up, and as such, would probably have to throw in the 18th pick. Even if we do win the 1st overall pick in the lotto, I think Singleton goes a lot higher than 18 in this draft, meaning we'd have to move up to get him.

[closg00]

This may of been posted before... but this is from nbadraft.net

Jan Vesely 6-11 230 SF/PF Czech Republic 1990 The Wizards are extremely high on Vesely and it's unlikely they would allow him to slip by them at 4. He's is ultra long and athletic and has the ability to play either forward position. He's a tweener but a good tweener in the sense that he can create mismatches due to his size. He will need to add strength and could struggle some guarding on the perimeter due to lack of foot speed, but his incredible length and improving skill set make him a projected high lottery pick. He's been compared to both Dunleavy's (Mike senior and junior) due to his shooting ability and adroit ball handling skills. He has had a strong end to the season for Partizan Belgrade after starting off slowly.

I can see this being Ernie's guy considering his past picks of Nowitzki and Pecherov.

I appreciated draft.nets new extended mock taking team needs into account, don't agree with some of it, but they break it down for each team. 1st-time reading that the Wiz "are extremely high on Vesely"....probably some smoke hopefully.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011-extended-mock-draft

RealGM scouting report on Vesely, I don't want.....don't see the fit cause he doesn't have range or ball-handling skills.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011-extended-mock-draft

[Rafael122]

Btw, when is the lottery?? Is it this week?

Tuesday.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

From Washingtonwizards.com


Team Needs
The Wizards enter the draft with seven players under contract for next season and at least one player to fill every position in their starting lineup. With a well-balanced lineup, there is no glaring need and thus the team will look to stay with the same game plan as last season of taking the best player available to add more young depth to an up and coming team. Of the seven players under contract, only Rashard Lewis is over the age of 25.

[nate33]

I'm worried Minnesota might draft Kanter as high as #1. They don't need Irving with Rubio coming over. And they don't really need Derrick Williams with Beasley and Love already at forward. Kanter at center makes a lot of sense for them.

Basically, we won't get Kanter unless we draft ahead of Minnesota.

[WizTom]

That's an interesting point about Minnesota. You could probably say the same thing about Cleveland and Toronto, too. Because while a point guard with the potential of Irving is sought after, neither Minny or Cleve really needs one. Both need a center to complement their line-ups. Even Toronto would love to move Bargnani off the block to his natural stretch-4 position. And is the potential of a probable NBA tweener like Williams really that sought after?

The more I think about it, the more I believe we can't get Kanter unless we pick ahead of any of them. Big men with skills, legit size and good IQs are always gonna be sought after - especially in a weak draft.

However, Sacramento and Utah might want Irving as a long term piece.

Fingers crossed for Tuesday night...

[cavsfan58]

Say by some miraculous chance the Cavaliers get the number 1 and number 3 pick with the wizards at the number 2 pick.... Our first pick that we take would be Derrick Williams... Who would you take or what would you do with your second overall pick?

[theboomking]

Here is an article where Derrick Williams states that his vertical leap is 34 inches.
http://www.pac-10.org/News/tabid/863/Ar ... -of-a.aspx

Williams also noted that his vertical jump has increased from 31 inches to 34 inches since last season. The Wildcats came into the 2010-2011 season after a preseason filled with two-a-day workouts that included extra cardio, work on the leg press and running. “I feel like getting into better shape has enabled me to be more effective on the defensive end as well as improved jumping ability,” Williams said.

[Rafael122]

I really doubt Minny takes Kanter with the top pick, I disagree. You look at the top 6 teams let's say, Cleveland, Minnesota, Washington, Toronto, Sacramento and Utah - all of them with the exception of the Wizards would take Irving with the top pick.

[closg00]

I really doubt Minny takes Kanter with the top pick, I disagree. You look at the top 6 teams let's say, Cleveland, Minnesota, Washington, Toronto, Sacramento and Utah - all of them with the exception of the Wizards would take Irving with the top pick.

Don't forget that we're talking about Kahn here, who knows what he will do. I posted an article earlier where the writer says that Minny is going to trade their pick for a vet.

[Dark Faze]

Say by some miraculous chance the Cavaliers get the number 1 and number 3 pick with the wizards at the number 2 pick.... Our first pick that we take would be Derrick Williams... Who would you take or what would you do with your second overall pick?

Give up a 2012 unprotected draft pick + 18th + prospect to get the Cavs' #3 pick to select Kanter.

Realistic version: The same names we tend to talk about at 18th overall.

[fishercob]

Sunday draft musings on several subjects, including a few recent posts:

The nbadraft.net report that the Wiz love Veseley is not troubling to me. we all know Ernie plays it close to the vest; that just smacks of agent puffery. If we end up with Vesely, we'll probably have fallen to 7.

As has been discussed before, I think it's unlikely that we draft three players and they're with the team come training camp. We've got too many young players for that. So here are a couple possibilities:

1) consolidate 18 and 34 to move up. We used the 35 last year to move up from 30 to 23 (and got the 56 back in the process), so I'm thinking our two later picks could get us up to 14 or 13. maybe that's where we get a Markieff or Faried or Singleton.

2) trade out (I.e. trade 18). There are several teams with closing windows who desperately need an influx of youth and athleticism (lakers, spurs, celts, magic) who may be willing to mortgage part of their futures for what the believe to be a final puzzle piece. The C's got a future Clips pick in the Perkins deal. Maybe they'd give that and a future first of their own for 18.

3) combo of 1 and 2. What would a capped out aging contender give for Faried or Morris? We may be able to bank some serious value.

Food for thought.

[hands11]

I want us to keep him if it's practical, but that could be a very big IF. He's probably the best scoring guard available in either the draft or free agency, and he's young. I'd rather get something for him than watch him sign somewhere else for too much money.

Nick Young has no trade value.

If somebody wants him, they'll sign him with the MLE. If he costs more than the MLE, nobody is going to want to give up a valuable pick only to overpay a one-dimensional player.

Look, they are not letting Nick just walk. They have invested to much and has proven he can play 6-7 SG 25 with amazing reach and a wet stroke.

They will match what is offered.

No one is going to go totally overboard to sign him so what he is offered at worse will be at the top side of what is seasonable. Plus if there is a new CBA, then everyone will be adjusting their offers. Until there is one, that would only put more pressure on teams not to go overboard. That will make him a good keep or a good trade if they decide that after next year.

$3,695,857 if he qualifying. Offers will probably start around 5 and finish at 7 Hopefully they can sign him to 3 years. That would put him at 28 when he can sign another good contract if he blows up.