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Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010

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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#46 » by verbal8 » Sun Apr 4, 2010 3:54 pm

clipocketurs wrote:Would Wizards fans be happy if the Wizards traded Arenas for Eddy Curry's expiring contract?

You would also get an extra $6.5 million in cap space this summer and get out of Arenas' contract.

It depends on who the Wizards 1st round pick is. If the Wizards end up with a guy like Aminu or Favors, who will be somewhat of a project I would not mind making the move.

However if they get Wall, Turner or Cousins I would like to see them give "win-now" a shot. The problem with dumping Arenas for no talent in return is that the flexibility it creates will soon be taken up extending Blatche and McGee.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#47 » by Mezotarkus » Mon Apr 5, 2010 8:26 pm

Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#48 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:13 pm

Mezotarkus wrote:Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.


I'd do it in a heartbeat. Don't spend any money this summer, and look to totally cash out in Summer of '11. Add that to two lottery picks and this rebuilding thing doesn't take as long as I anticipated. All while the youngings we already have are refining their games.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#49 » by AceDegenerate » Mon Apr 5, 2010 10:26 pm

Mezotarkus wrote:Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.


You don't need to ask, just read up.

Most here are willing to trade Gilbert for any garbage that amounts to cap space. Somehow other teams can find value in Arenas, but for the Wizards; definitely not. Bring Out Your Garbage for Arenas trades. Everybody is accepting them here.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#50 » by fishercob » Mon Apr 5, 2010 11:19 pm

Mezotarkus wrote:Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.


I'd hit Charlotte up for some pick consideration. At least a first, maybe a second or two as well. Pre-injury Arenas was a better version of Iverson. He'd be an absolute beast in a Larry Brown system surrounded by huge, aggressive defenders. Frankly, it's what the Wiz should have done, instead of putting more all-offense, no-D guys around him.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#51 » by LyricalRico » Tue Apr 6, 2010 12:49 am

Mezotarkus wrote:Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.


Interesting. Chandler+Augustin for Gil is definitely a better return than Eddy Curry, who's name has been thrown around a number of times. We get out of the contract and get guys who can actually play.

I don't see Charlotte wanting Gil, though. But maybe LB sees him as another Iverson-type undersized SG.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#52 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:51 am

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Mezotarkus wrote:Some of you may shoot me for this (no pun intended) but I am curious what the Wizards fan mindset is about Arenas and whether there would be any interest in the following trade:

Tyson Chandler ($13m expiring), Nazr Mohammed ($6m expiring), and DJ Augustin for Gilbert Arenas.

Wizards get a complete fresh start salary wise and a promising prospect in Augustin.


Interesting. Chandler+Augustin for Gil is definitely a better return than Eddy Curry, who's name has been thrown around a number of times. We get out of the contract and get guys who can actually play.

I don't see Charlotte wanting Gil, though. But maybe LB sees him as another Iverson-type undersized SG.

Yeah. Chandler + Augustin for Gil makes some sense. You can keep Mohammed. We don't need the extra salary baggage and Charlotte would need a big man anyhow.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#53 » by Rafael122 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 3:57 am

I'd never trade within the division.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#54 » by MJG » Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:07 am

Rafael122 wrote:I'd never trade within the division.

Why not?
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#55 » by Rafael122 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 1:44 pm

I'd do it if it were for lower level players, but trading Arenas to a divisional rival? And having to see him 4 games a year? Ship him West if we were to trade him.
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Post#56 » by Severn Hoos » Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:04 pm

So this is both crazy and unrealistic, but hey - what's a message board for anyway?

Suppose the Wiz get Cousins in the draft. How about sending McGee out for a mid-1st (pick a wing like James Anderson) and then sign Channing Frye as a FA?

It's kinda risky, both in terms of if McGee reaches his potential, and was Frye just playing for a contract? But in theory, think of the crazy mismatches you could create in a 3-man rotation with Cousins beating people up inside, Frye hitting 3s from outside, and Blatche being the do-it-all, mid-range, passing Big?

I know Frye opted out specifically so the Suns could re-up him to a better deal, so I know it won't happen. But that sure would be fun to watch...
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#57 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:14 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:So this is both crazy and unrealistic, but hey - what's a message board for anyway?

Suppose the Wiz get Cousins in the draft. How about sending McGee out for a mid-1st (pick a wing like James Anderson) and then sign Channing Frye as a FA?

It's kinda risky, both in terms of if McGee reaches his potential, and was Frye just playing for a contract? But in theory, think of the crazy mismatches you could create in a 3-man rotation with Cousins beating people up inside, Frye hitting 3s from outside, and Blatche being the do-it-all, mid-range, passing Big?

I know Frye opted out specifically so the Suns could re-up him to a better deal, so I know it won't happen. But that sure would be fun to watch...

I'm on board for trading McGee for a guard if we draft Cousins. I'm not sure if I'd take the risk on a mid-1st panning out though. I'd rather try and get Fernandez or maybe adding some incentive to get Harden.

As far as signing a backup center, Frye is a possibility. I have no great love for Frye, but sure, if the price was right, it's worth considering. So would a lot of other free agent centers, both this year and next year. My guess is that Frye is more valuable to Phoenix than he is to us so they would offer more money.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#58 » by verbal8 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 2:43 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:So this is both crazy and unrealistic, but hey - what's a message board for anyway?
Suppose the Wiz get Cousins in the draft. How about sending McGee out for a mid-1st (pick a wing like James Anderson) and then sign Channing Frye as a FA?

Why give up on McGee for mid first? I think a package of the later picks and maybe a future 2nd or Nick Young should be able to get a mid-first rounder.

Also cap space is another way to address the weaknesses at SG/SF.

Severn Hoos wrote:It's kinda risky, both in terms of if McGee reaches his potential, and was Frye just playing for a contract? But in theory, think of the crazy mismatches you could create in a 3-man rotation with Cousins beating people up inside, Frye hitting 3s from outside, and Blatche being the do-it-all, mid-range, passing Big?

I think a 4 man rotation with McGee is even harder for teams to match up with. It means Blatche doesn't have to play Center and Frye can be primarily a "stretch-4".
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#59 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 6, 2010 4:47 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:So this is both crazy and unrealistic, but hey - what's a message board for anyway?

Suppose the Wiz get Cousins in the draft. How about sending McGee out for a mid-1st (pick a wing like James Anderson) and then sign Channing Frye as a FA?

It's kinda risky, both in terms of if McGee reaches his potential, and was Frye just playing for a contract? But in theory, think of the crazy mismatches you could create in a 3-man rotation with Cousins beating people up inside, Frye hitting 3s from outside, and Blatche being the do-it-all, mid-range, passing Big?

I know Frye opted out specifically so the Suns could re-up him to a better deal, so I know it won't happen. But that sure would be fun to watch...


I don't like it. I'd rather just keep McGee as a backup C (where he seems much more comfortable by the way) and avoid overpaying Frye. I'm not quite ready to give McGee for a mid-1st rounder yet.

Also James Anderson, while a decent NBA prospect, is not someone I'm fawning over to get.

I guess at this stage in the process I'm more interested in adding & keeping athletic talent than finding system guys.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#60 » by daddyfivestar » Tue Apr 6, 2010 6:38 pm

I posed a Foye question to you all after the trade deadline - would the Wiz match a 4 to 5 mil offer from another team?

Now that he's been the main guard for you for a few months since the suspensions, and with the wiretap story, just wondering if this still holds true... The Laker board is hot for him but not at the full MLE.

Any insight?
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#61 » by AceDegenerate » Tue Apr 6, 2010 6:42 pm

Foye is not getting the MLE from anybody. He sucks. We should've never made the trade.

He is Juan Dixon with a dribble.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#62 » by verbal8 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:06 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:I posed a Foye question to you all after the trade deadline - would the Wiz match a 4 to 5 mil offer from another team?

Did some team just hire Isiah Thomas as their GM? :) j/k I doubt he gets that much.

daddyfivestar wrote: The Laker board is hot for him but not at the full MLE.
Any insight?

I think being paired with Roy in Portland or Kobe in LA would be the perfect fit for him. He is decent in most areas of his game, but is a good shooter.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#63 » by nate33 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 7:37 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:I posed a Foye question to you all after the trade deadline - would the Wiz match a 4 to 5 mil offer from another team?

Now that he's been the main guard for you for a few months since the suspensions, and with the wiretap story, just wondering if this still holds true... The Laker board is hot for him but not at the full MLE.

Any insight?

No. The Wizards won't pay $5M to retain Foye. If they were interested in doing so, they would have extended the qualifying offer.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#64 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:18 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:I posed a Foye question to you all after the trade deadline - would the Wiz match a 4 to 5 mil offer from another team?

Now that he's been the main guard for you for a few months since the suspensions, and with the wiretap story, just wondering if this still holds true... The Laker board is hot for him but not at the full MLE.

Any insight?


I've thought for a while Foye & the Lakers would be an ideal fit. Foye makes alot sense as Fisher's replacement. He doesn't need to be a real PG. Just spot up or come off of screens and hit open jumpers. Basically, he's like Fisher, but 8 years younger. Both have the clutch gene to nail big shots late but OTOH both will also get lit up by quicker PGs defensively.

As for signing him. We have no interest in keeping him. We need more than tweener at this point and we have bigger aspirations for our cap space. He's all yours if you want him.
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Re: Official Trade Thread XIII - Summer of 2010 

Post#65 » by verbal8 » Tue Apr 6, 2010 8:33 pm

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daddyfivestar wrote:I posed a Foye question to you all after the trade deadline - would the Wiz match a 4 to 5 mil offer from another team?

Now that he's been the main guard for you for a few months since the suspensions, and with the wiretap story, just wondering if this still holds true... The Laker board is hot for him but not at the full MLE.

Any insight?


I've thought for a while Foye & the Lakers would be an ideal fit. Foye makes alot sense as Fisher's replacement. He doesn't need to be a real PG. Just spot up or come off of screens and hit open jumpers. Basically, he's like Fisher, but 8 years younger. Both have the clutch gene to nail big shots late but OTOH both will also get lit up by quicker PGs defensively.

As for signing him. We have no interest in keeping him. We need more than tweener at this point and we have bigger aspirations for our cap space. He's all yours if you want him.


A Foye S&T to the Lakers might be a good BOYD trade. They send the Wizards Vujacic, cash towards his salary and the 2011 1st(probably heavily protected). It gives the Lakers a decent player and luxury tax savings or a TPE for the salary difference.

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