The (way too early) 2024 Draft thread. Woo! Tanking!

payitforward · Post #841 » by **payitforward** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:44 pm

JAR69 wrote:As long as we are going to suck next year (and we are going to suck), let's have some fun. And it may not even require a pick!

I want the Japanese Steph Curry. Want. Don't tell me he is too small. Don't tell me he is 23. Don't tell me anything. I don't care. I don't care. Just watch.

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Wow!!
If you can shoot... (& can he ever!)

Post #842 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:03 pm

JAR69 wrote:As long as we are going to suck next year (and we are going to suck), let's have some fun. And it may not even require a pick!

I want the Japanese Steph Curry. Want. Don't tell me he is too small. Don't tell me he is 23. Don't tell me anything. I don't care. I don't care. Just watch.

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Wow!

He really is the Japanese Steph Curry! He even moves like him. It's like how Kobe eerily looked like Jordan, not just in his skillset, but in the way he moved around the court. Statistically, he's really not that far off from Curry with his shooting. He has the same TS% and roughly the same 3PA rate and 3P% as Curry at Davidsonville. Curry carried a much bigger share of his team's offense, and had significantly better rebounding numbers though. And Curry is bigger.

NatP4 · Post #843 » by **NatP4** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:44 pm

Curry took 11.9 3s per 40 on 41.2%

Tominaga took 8.8 3s per 40 on 37%

Not to mention Curry was 21 years old when he entered the draft, not 23. Also racked up steals, assists, rebounds, and averaged an absurd 34.0 points per 40 in his final year.

Carried a mid major team to 3 consecutive 27+ win seasons, 2 NCAA appearances, and a trip to the elite 8.

Post #844 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:24 pm

NatP4 wrote:Curry took 11.9 3s per 40 on 41.2%

Tominaga took 8.8 3s per 40 on 37%

Not to mention Curry was 21 years old when he entered the draft, not 23. Also racked up steals, assists, rebounds, and averaged an absurd 34.0 points per 40 in his final year.

Carried a mid major team to 3 consecutive 27+ win seasons, 2 NCAA appearances, and a trip to the elite 8.

I was looking at their final seasons. Curry has 11.9 3PA's/100 to Tominaga's 9.5. Not THAT big of a difference.

But I see now that my post may have come across as if I actually thought Tominaga could conceivably approach Curry's impact. I don't think that all. The size, defense and passing is too big of a gap to overcome. And as you say, even the shooting isn't quite up to Curry's level. But he is a fun college player who makes good highlights.

FAH1223 · Post #845 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:53 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #846 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:21 pm

FAH1223 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yikes!

Every comp on the list tops out as maybe the 3rd best guy on a good team, and most of them are 4th guys.

AFM · Post #847 » by **AFM** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:40 pm

Bigger Goran Dragic doesn’t sound that bad to me.

mhd · Post #848 » by **mhd** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:45 pm

nate33 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yikes!

Every comp on the list tops out as maybe the 3rd best guy on a good team, and most of them are 4th guys.

I think a healthy Gallo (unfortunate) would assuredly have been the 3rd best player on a contender. Still, we all know this draft sucks for stars. If we get #1, I'm looking to trade down and see if we can get a future #1 pick as part of the package.

Post #849 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:51 pm

AFM wrote:Bigger Goran Dragic doesn’t sound that bad to me.

Yeah, that probably sounds like the most encouraging comp. Dragic was a weird player. He was a solid but unremarkable player early in his career, but then suddenly started hitting his 3's and put together one glorious season, making 3rd Team All-NBA. His 3-point shooting regressed a bit the following year, and he went back to being a solid starter, and then the injury bug hit and he could never stay healthy again.

But if we can have something close to peak Dragic for an 6-year stretch, that would be awesome.

NatP4 · Post #850 » by **NatP4** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:16 pm

Sheppard as a freshman, is better than Van Fleet was as a Junior/Senior.

DCZards · Post #851 » by **DCZards** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:40 pm

Not sure what to make of DAT’s comps. Comps are often difficult and faulty.

If I had to guess, the two players he’s probably underestimating are Sarr and Sheppherd.

His comparison of Dillingham to Garland is interesting. Garland is bigger and stronger and probably a better playmaker but I suspect that Dillingham will be a more dynamic scorer.

pcbothwel · Post #852 » by **pcbothwel** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:59 pm

NatP4 wrote:Sheppard as a freshman, is better than Van Fleet was as a Junior/Senior.

The upside is that FVV is a REALLY Good player and Sheppard projects to be a better shooter and finisher. If Sheppard can refine is playmaking/passing, then thats a really interesting comp.
I lean more towards Jeff Hornacek/Hersey Hawkins.

NatP4 · Post #853 » by **NatP4** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:59 pm

I’d say that list is underrating Holland and Sheppard, although McDaniels and Van Fleet are good outcomes.

Overrating Sarr, Risacher, and Dillingham. Massively overrating Williams, who is just awful.

FAH1223 · Post #854 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:52 pm

NatP4 wrote:I’d say that list is underrating Holland and Sheppard, although McDaniels and Van Fleet are good outcomes.

Overrating Sarr, Risacher, and Dillingham. Massively overrating Williams, who is just awful.

Williams is clearly hurt.

He was playing well until the injuries.

dobrojim · Post #855 » by **dobrojim** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:01 am

Forget Shepperd

Draft Gohlke

OMG

No I’m not actually serious

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #856 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:11 am

dobrojim wrote:Forget Shepperd

Draft Gohlke

OMG

No I’m not actually serious

Sheppard and Dillingham are finished for the season, if not as NCAA players.

So is Murray-Broyles.

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NatP4 · Post #857 » by **NatP4** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:14 am

dobrojim wrote:Forget Shepperd

Draft Gohlke

OMG

No I’m not actually serious

That dude is atleast 40 :lol:

closg00 · Post #858 » by **closg00** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:51 am

Kentucky bounced in a upset, Reed didn't even score in the first half.

NatP4 · Post #859 » by **NatP4** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:12 pm

Auburn is going to win the tournament. They have as dominant of a trio as college basketball has seen in a long time with Broome, Baker-Mazara, and Jaylin Williams.

Broome really should be a lottery pick, right up there with guys like Clingan, Ware, and Filipowski.

26.2 points 13.6 rebounds 3.5 assists 1.4 steals 3.7 blocks 2.5 turnovers 59% TS. Developed a 3pt shot this year, shooting a respectable 35%.

Post #860 » by **Rafael122** » Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:21 pm

I specifically watched the UK game just to see if I was tripping on Sheppard and he couldn't have picked a worse game to flame out. I'll pass on him as a top 5 pick, but if he's there in the 20s, take the shot. If you're physically outmatched by juniors and seniors from OAKLAND UNIVERSITY, I cannot in good conscious think you'll be able to play against grown NBA men.

I'll pass on Dillingham too, 6'1 with a 6'2'' wingspan are just awful metrics.