Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part III

[DCsOwn]

Let's assume the first 7 picks go in the order that nbadraft.net has them:

1. McLemore
2. Noel
3. Porter
4. Bennett
5. Burke
6. Len
7. Oladipo.

That would suck. Those are the top 7 guys on my board (though not necessarily in that order). We'd be choosing among Zeller, Olynyck and Shabazz. Yuck. I guess I'd go with Zeller, but I'd definitely shop the pick first.

Man, I really hope somebody above us falls in love with Zeller or Shabazz, so at least we end up with Len or Oladipo.

I'd take Shabazz in that scenario without question. A Wall/Beal/Muhammad trio is a very solid foundation IMO, even if Muhammad is very clearly the third most talented guy in the trio.

It's really early in the process though, and we're likely to see plenty of risers and fallers between now and the week preceding the draft, so I'm not overly concerned about any projections floating around atm.

[nate33]

After watching the playoffs this weekend, I think the need for a pure stretch 4 while there, is exxagerated. Who in our frontcourt is capable of creating their own shot? Anyone? In the playoffs the closeouts are tougher and the drivnig lanes close up a lot quicker of the pump fake and drive. An Ilyasova or Anderson type will have a bigger impact in the regular season. We need someone in the frontcourt who can create their own shot, especially when so much of our offense is predicated on Wall creating open looks for others.....

Edit...The ONE player who fits the bill and can do both is K Love and unfortunately we don't have the ammo to make a real offer for him. I'd offer this year's 1 (we draft for them), 2014 unprotected, a 2016 #1, Seraphin, Satoransky, plus anything else they want outside of Wall and Beal and we still would get laughed off the phone.

Nene can create his own shot very nicely when healthy.

[Dark Faze]

Nene can create his own shot in a myriad of ways.

We really don't need a stretch 4. What we need is a great bench as security for our starters going out. When the starters are on the floor we've proven we can be an above .500 ball club. When certain guys go out we can't even compete though.

Kind of why I wanted Olynyk. Good third big who will produce as a backup and be there to cover for either Nene or Okafor if one of them is out. Guards are cheap in FA now. We don't need quite as much help at SF if we keep Ariza.

Realistically our biggest needs are a PF/C and someone to replace Price.

[pancakes3]

After watching the playoffs this weekend, I think the need for a pure stretch 4 while there, is exxagerated. Who in our frontcourt is capable of creating their own shot? Anyone? In the playoffs the closeouts are tougher and the drivnig lanes close up a lot quicker of the pump fake and drive.

Not sure if I follow your logic. You say the defenses get packed in tighter in the playoffs so we need to counteract that by finding someone who operates exclusively in those packed defenses?

[jivelikenice]

After watching the playoffs this weekend, I think the need for a pure stretch 4 while there, is exxagerated. Who in our frontcourt is capable of creating their own shot? Anyone? In the playoffs the closeouts are tougher and the drivnig lanes close up a lot quicker of the pump fake and drive.

Not sure if I follow your logic. You say the defenses get packed in tighter in the playoffs so we need to counteract that by finding someone who operates exclusively in those packed defenses?

What I'm saying is having a stretch 4 is fine, but the closeouts will be harder in the postseason. And if they try to fake and drive, the lanes will close more quickly. Its too bad Ilyasova isn't 100%, because I wanted to see how effective he'd be in the playoffs. Who in the frontcourt can be relied upon to create their own offense? Martell is incapable of that at the 3. Do we want a similar player at the 4? My basic point is we need someone in the frontcourt who can create their own offense at times. Nene should be that guy, but you can't plan dependent on him w/ his injury troubles. Bennet could be that guy, but I don't think he'll be there when we pick and would they even take a freshman?

[jivelikenice]

After watching the playoffs this weekend, I think the need for a pure stretch 4 while there, is exxagerated. Who in our frontcourt is capable of creating their own shot? Anyone? In the playoffs the closeouts are tougher and the drivnig lanes close up a lot quicker of the pump fake and drive. An Ilyasova or Anderson type will have a bigger impact in the regular season. We need someone in the frontcourt who can create their own shot, especially when so much of our offense is predicated on Wall creating open looks for others.....

Edit...The ONE player who fits the bill and can do both is K Love and unfortunately we don't have the ammo to make a real offer for him. I'd offer this year's 1 (we draft for them), 2014 unprotected, a 2016 #1, Seraphin, Satoransky, plus anything else they want outside of Wall and Beal and we still would get laughed off the phone.

Nene can create his own shot very nicely when healthy.

No doubt, but can you rely on him being healthy? Either way you need to get someone in the pipeline who eventually can be that front court piece who can create their own shot.

[Knighthonor]

Wizards need a young talent Big that can drive and shoot. Aka Nene Jr.
But if he had a block too....
Man I want Noel!!!! oh well....
How can the Wizards get somebody with that kind of talent in the draft without giving up 2014 first round pick?

[MikeTheKid]

How about Ryan Kelly in the 2nd round as a stretch 4 for us??? I don't remember if we talked about it already. I know his interior defense was terrible and he cant rebound but he can shoot

[Induveca]

Is there really any question the Wizards end up with Cody "Guaranteed Bust" Zeller?

Every year, almost without fail the Wiz draft the guy I don't want (Wall however was a no-brainer). Beal, who I wasn't horribly excited about was the only nice surprise.

Outside of them? Every damn year passing up obviously capable players in favor of some odd Grunfeldian algorithm.

[sfam]

Let's assume the first 7 picks go in the order that nbadraft.net has them:

1. McLemore
2. Noel
3. Porter
4. Bennett
5. Burke
6. Len
7. Oladipo.

That would suck. Those are the top 7 guys on my board (though not necessarily in that order). We'd be choosing among Zeller, Olynyck and Shabazz. Yuck. I guess I'd go with Zeller, but I'd definitely shop the pick first.

Man, I really hope somebody above us falls in love with Zeller or Shabazz, so at least we end up with Len or Oladipo.

I'd take Shabazz in that scenario without question. A Wall/Beal/Muhammad trio is a very solid foundation IMO, even if Muhammad is very clearly the third most talented guy in the trio.

It's really early in the process though, and we're likely to see plenty of risers and fallers between now and the week preceding the draft, so I'm not overly concerned about any projections floating around atm.

In that situation, I probably take whoever is the best shooter and passer between Olynyk and Zeller. Neither are gonna be great defenders, but both could potentially be decent offensive weapons from the 4 position. The plan then would be to extend Okafor, and have one of these two eventually replace Nene.

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[mhd]

I'd pawn of Shabaaz to the highest bidder b/c Minny would gladly snap him up at 9. Shabaaz would be the last elite wing in the draft. If no one would bite, I'd just take him myself as BPA. However, I don't see the top 7 unfolding like that:

1) Magic-Noel
2) Bobcats-Mclemore
3) Cavs-Porter
4) Suns-Len (I think he rises)
5) NO-Burke
6) Sac-Oladipo/Shabaaz (They have Thompson and Patterson as PFs, they need wing help)
7) Det-Shabaaz/Oladipo (They are not drafting a non-starter (i.e. a PF or C). They need wing help)
8) Wiz-Bennett

I think 1 of Bennett or Len would fall to the Wiz b/c Sac & Det both would take wings over bigs.

[Upper Decker]

I think 1 of Bennett or Len would fall to the Wiz b/c Sac & Det both would take wings over bigs.

This. Wiz will end up with a big in this draft. Although I'd prefer Len.

[doclinkin]

We're getting the 3rd pick anyway. Trust docstradamus.

[sfam]

We're getting the 3rd pick anyway. Trust docstradamus.

*Cues Black Eyed Peas, "I Gotta Feelin"

I was thinking the same thing last week. I like our 15% chance to move up (I'm guessing its the 3 as well) lots more than our 15% chance to move down.

[pineappleheadindc]

We're getting the 3rd pick anyway. Trust docstradamus.

Doc, I'm glad it's you not me. I just tried the ESPN lottery machine again. And let's just say that if I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all.

I couldn't get the Wizards anywhere near #3 (much less 1 or 2) after a whole lot of spins. I just gave up.

I hope you're right about #3 because I'm pretty pessimistic at this point.

[hands11]

Let's assume the first 7 picks go in the order that nbadraft.net has them:

1. McLemore
2. Noel
3. Porter
4. Bennett
5. Burke
6. Len
7. Oladipo.

That would suck. Those are the top 7 guys on my board (though not necessarily in that order). We'd be choosing among Zeller, Olynyck and Shabazz. Yuck. I guess I'd go with Zeller, but I'd definitely shop the pick first.

Man, I really hope somebody above us falls in love with Zeller or Shabazz, so at least we end up with Len or Oladipo.

You take CJM or Dieng and walk away smiling

As for us getting top 3, wouldn't be surprised at all. Then its a tough choice. Len or Otto

[Ruzious]

An overlooked 2nd round prospect is Robert Covington of Tennessee State. 6'8 215 with 7'2 wingspan. He had a great junior season (with a 30 PER and over 60% eFG and TS%), but he tore his miniscus in his senior season, and his shooting stats fell way off. He's supposedly not a great athlete, but his getting 2.0 blocks and 2.2 steals in 31 minutes a game says differently. As a soph and junior he made 45% of his 3's at a high volume. Don't be too quick to poo poo Tennessee State - he played 3 games against Murray State as a junior - and they were ranked in the top 10 - also played #1 ranked UNC that season. A smaller school version of Otto Porter, perhaps.

[verbal8]

We're getting the 3rd pick anyway. Trust docstradamus.

Doc, I'm glad it's you not me. I just tried the ESPN lottery machine again. And let's just say that if I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all.

I couldn't get the Wizards anywhere near #3 (much less 1 or 2) after a whole lot of spins. I just gave up.

I hope you're right about #3 because I'm pretty pessimistic at this point.

I ran it and the Wizards ended up with 8th. But they did get Len, so it could be worse The Cavs got the number 1 when I ran it. Bobcats 2 and Hornets 3.

[verbal8]

An overlooked 2nd round prospect is Robert Covington of Tennessee State. 6'8 215 with 7'2 wingspan. He had a great junior season (with a 30 PER and over 60% eFG and TS%), but he tore his miniscus in his senior season, and his shooting stats fell way off. He's supposedly not a great athlete, but his getting 2.0 blocks and 2.2 steals in 31 minutes a game says differently. As a soph and junior he made 45% of his 3's at a high volume. Don't be too quick to poo poo Tennessee State - he played 3 games against Murray State as a junior - and they were ranked in the top 10 - also played #1 ranked UNC that season. A smaller school version of Otto Porter, perhaps.

Sounds like a good possibility. Very strange about his senior season. He might be a more athletic Justin Harper. I think he is a guy where his measurements are going to make a big difference in whether he is drafted.

[nate33]

An overlooked 2nd round prospect is Robert Covington of Tennessee State. 6'8 215 with 7'2 wingspan. He had a great junior season (with a 30 PER and over 60% eFG and TS%), but he tore his miniscus in his senior season, and his shooting stats fell way off. He's supposedly not a great athlete, but his getting 2.0 blocks and 2.2 steals in 31 minutes a game says differently. As a soph and junior he made 45% of his 3's at a high volume. Don't be too quick to poo poo Tennessee State - he played 3 games against Murray State as a junior - and they were ranked in the top 10 - also played #1 ranked UNC that season. A smaller school version of Otto Porter, perhaps.

Can he gain 20 pounds and play stretch 4?