Higga wrote:It's cold again
These last couple of weeks and the next couple of weeks are the best weather DC has the entire year. Just beautiful weather.
Moderators: LyricalRico, nate33, montestewart
Higga wrote:It's cold again
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
montestewart wrote:Maybe a gag order on the subject of __________________ for the time being, before everyone is banned for life? LyricalRico, guide us out of this madness, and I promise I'll finish those last three poems in your book by the start of the season.
Dats my two cents.
Kanyewest wrote:So in the summer in 1995 what should the Wizards have done? Should they have re-signed Brent Price? What would have been the wise salary to give Juwan Howard at the time? What would have been Juwan Howard's actual worth in PPA at the time? And what was he actually worth in retrospect? Why did the Bullets trade Rasheed Wallace for Rod Strickland after Juwan Howard had left temporarily? Why was I so happy when Juwan Howard re-signed with the Bullets?
Kanyewest wrote:So in the summer in 1995 what should the Wizards have done? Should they have re-signed Brent Price? What would have been the wise salary to give Juwan Howard at the time? What would have been Juwan Howard's actual worth in PPA at the time? And what was he actually worth in retrospect? Why did the Bullets trade Rasheed Wallace for Rod Strickland after Juwan Howard had left temporarily? Why was I so happy when Juwan Howard re-signed with the Bullets?
montestewart wrote:I forget all the details, but I remember the Bullets played hardball with Howard, used up cap space, and then had only below market money to offer on his rookie contract. They offered an opt out after the second year as an incentive, and acquiring Webber seemed to cement the deal. A perfect storm. Had Howard gotten a typical rookie contract, things may have turned out much different, possibly including moving Howard for backcourt help while retaining Webber and the two Wallaces.
Nivek wrote:montestewart wrote:I forget all the details, but I remember the Bullets played hardball with Howard, used up cap space, and then had only below market money to offer on his rookie contract. They offered an opt out after the second year as an incentive, and acquiring Webber seemed to cement the deal. A perfect storm. Had Howard gotten a typical rookie contract, things may have turned out much different, possibly including moving Howard for backcourt help while retaining Webber and the two Wallaces.
Abe Pollin and Wes Unseld decided that rookies were getting too much money. So, in quixotic fashion, they tried to change the system all by themselves. The going rate for Howard's pick was roughly 6 years and $24 million at the time, which is what David Falk and Howard wanted. What you remember from there is pretty much what happened. Howard signed a 13-year contract (or something equally ridiculous), but with an option to terminate after the 2nd year.
The Bullets were counting on having the right to match, BUT a new CBA went into effect and players were granted unrestricted free agency. So, they had to bid against the Heat.
It was one bad move in a series of them. I earlier mentioned Webber for Richmond and Thorpe as their "biggest" blunder, but trading Ben Wallace (and others) for Ike Austin was probably worse. Austin peaked with Miami in 97-98, and then declined in consecutive years BEFORE Washington traded for him. The argument at the time was that Austin was a "true" center. In fact, he was only about an inch taller than Wallace. In addition to Austin not being that good even when in shape, his Achilles heel was his conditioning.
Meanwhile, fitness freak Ben Wallace's least productive full season (after his abbreviated rookie year) was better than Austin's best season. And, Wallace would go on to a Hall of Fame career (induction pending)...at center.
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I recall getting almost apoplectic over the Ben Wallace/Ike Austin deal.
He locked the doors of the cab and like, like, like, made me pay a higher fare and that was like, like, like, sooooooooooooo wrong everyone should like, like, like, be outraged, Yah.
Wes_Tiny_Abe_ wrote:http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/DC-Woman-Claims-Cab-Driver-Overcharged-Locked-Her-in-Car-280601902.htmlHe locked the doors of the cab and like, like, like, made me pay a higher fare and that was like, like, like, sooooooooooooo wrong everyone should like, like, like, be outraged, Yah.