Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

closg00 · Post #916 » by **closg00** » Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:14 pm

HOUSTON -- The Houston Rockets have suspended first-round pick Royce White for "refusing to provide services" required by his contract.

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General manager Daryl Morey said Sunday that the team will continue to work with White in hopes of finding a resolution.

Last week, White refused his assignment to Houston's D-League affiliate. The 16th overall pick in the June draft has spent most of the season on Houston's inactive list while he and the team figure out how to handle his anxiety disorder and overall mental health.

The 6-foot-8 White missed the first week of training camp. He flew to Detroit with the team for the season opener and then traveled by bus to Atlanta and Memphis for games. But he soon stopped participating in team activities, saying his mental health took precedence over his NBA career.

MikeTheKid · Post #917 » by **MikeTheKid** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:39 pm

Looks like Boston is working really hard to get DMC today, If they get DMC and not have to give up Avery Bradley the Maloofs should fire Geoff Petrie today.

DeMarcus Cousins could be walking through that door. The Kings’ center, who has been connected to the Celtics in trade rumors for more than a month, could be on his way to Boston by Monday morning, according to a report. A source told NBAonNBC.com that Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge was working to complete a deal to bring Cousins to the Celtics by the end of Sunday night. Jeff Green, Jason Terry, Jared Sullinger and Courtney Lee are among the players who could be packaged in an offer for Cousins, the website reports. The inclusion of Avery Bradley appears to be a sticking point. Cousins, 22, is averaging 17.4 points and 10.3 rebounds per game for the Kings. He was recently suspended for insubordination, but since his return, he has posted six straight double-doubles and one triple-double while leading Sacramento to a 4-2 record.

Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/01/report-celtics- ... to-boston/

Post #918 » by **nate33** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 4:08 pm

Sam Amick has debunked this on Twitter at about 11PM last night:

Sam Amick wrote:‏DeMarcus Cousins is not going to the Celtics. Teams continue to be told that he's not available. That is all.

https://twitter.com/sam_amick

I'd be shocked if Sacramento traded Cousins for that paltry package at this point. That may well be the best they can do for Cousins, but there's no reason why they shouldn't continue to shop him until the Trade Deadline to be sure.

Upper Decker · Post #919 » by **Upper Decker** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 4:33 pm

Boston's screwed for a long time because how bad last off-season was.

Jeff Green is quickly becoming one of the worst contracts in the NBA 4/37 is so awful. There's not a chance he has any positive value.

Courtney Lee looks like a mega bust and he's signed for MLE for 4 seasons.

Brandon Bass has basically gone Andray Blatche on the C's and his remaining contract's for 3/20.

JET is washed up and has 3/16 left on his deal.

This goes without saying Sullinger and Melo look like absolute busts. I don't think Melo's even appeared for 1 minute this season. Why they didn't pick Perry Jones is puzzling.

I'm very amused Boston thinks they're a legit contender for Cousins with their garbage.

Nivek · Post #920 » by **Nivek** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 4:56 pm

Agree with you on much of the Celtics commentary, Mr. Decker. Terry is a disappointment. Jeff Green not performing was 100% predictable. Awful contract. Many said so at the time.

Sullinger's actually been okay, though. Boston got him 21st and he's below average overall, but still contributing. Jones has looked far worse in his scant minutes.

closg00 · Post #921 » by **closg00** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:05 pm

How do u figure that Melo is a bust already Upper? Melo is big-man project and the Celts are taking their time with him.

http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/celt ... e.html?m=1

sashae · Post #922 » by **sashae** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:32 pm

The Rockets have waived Scott Machado...

MikeTheKid · Post #923 » by **MikeTheKid** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:48 pm

sashae wrote:The Rockets have waived Scott Machado...

WOW!!! I would sign him to our D-League affiliate ASAP!!!

Severn Hoos · Post #924 » by **Severn Hoos** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:52 pm

Nivek wrote:Agree with you on much of the Celtics commentary, Mr. Decker. Terry is a disappointment. Jeff Green not performing was 100% predictable. Awful contract. Many said so at the time.

Sullinger's actually been okay, though. Boston got him 21st and he's below average overall, but still contributing. Jones has looked far worse in his scant minutes.

And how does Sullinger (the 21st pick) look compared to another rookie, like...oh I don't know, let's say Thomas Robinson (the 5th pick)? Would it go without saying that he's also "an absolute bust"?

closg00 · Post #925 » by **closg00** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:57 pm

Perfect opportunity to try-out Machado after Mack's 10-day is up. Mack isn't a keeper.

Nivek · Post #926 » by **Nivek** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:01 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:
Nivek wrote:Agree with you on much of the Celtics commentary, Mr. Decker. Terry is a disappointment. Jeff Green not performing was 100% predictable. Awful contract. Many said so at the time.

Sullinger's actually been okay, though. Boston got him 21st and he's below average overall, but still contributing. Jones has looked far worse in his scant minutes.

And how does Sullinger (the 21st pick) look compared to another rookie, like...oh I don't know, let's say Thomas Robinson (the 5th pick)? Would it go without saying that he's also "an absolute bust"?

Like a dog with a bone...

Through my last stat update, Sullinger had a PPA of 88 (average = 100; higher is better; replacement level has OFFICIALLY been reset to 45); Robinson: 33.

Sullinger has actually gotten more playing time (by amount 3 minutes per game). He's FAR more efficient offensively -- Robinson shooting just 41% from the floor (all 2pt attempts).

Per minute, pace-adjusted, Sullinger gets more rebounds and commits half as many turnovers. Sullinger is actually low usage -- about 15% of his team's possessions when he's on the floor; Robinson is at 18%.

Robinson gets more steals and blocks.

Upper Decker · Post #927 » by **Upper Decker** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:30 pm

closg00 wrote:How do u figure that Melo is a bust already Upper? Melo is big-man project and the Celts are taking their time with him.

http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/celt ... e.html?m=1

IIRC Hamady Ndiaye posted similar stats on better %'s in the D-League. I chose to take all d-league stats with a massive grain of salt. Boston's only back up center on the roster is Jason Collins who is averaging a stout 1 ppg and 2 rpg. You'd figure Melo would at least crack the line up for one game out of necessity but he's been beyond AWOL. Not all 1st round picks in the NBA are equal, but it's reasonable to expect at least minor contributions from your early 20's 1st rounder. It seems illogical to not consider him a bust because he's literally provided nothing.

Severn Hoos · Post #928 » by **Severn Hoos** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:36 pm

Nivek wrote:
Severn Hoos wrote:
Nivek wrote:Agree with you on much of the Celtics commentary, Mr. Decker. Terry is a disappointment. Jeff Green not performing was 100% predictable. Awful contract. Many said so at the time.

Sullinger's actually been okay, though. Boston got him 21st and he's below average overall, but still contributing. Jones has looked far worse in his scant minutes.

And how does Sullinger (the 21st pick) look compared to another rookie, like...oh I don't know, let's say Thomas Robinson (the 5th pick)? Would it go without saying that he's also "an absolute bust"?

Like a dog with a bone...

I know, perfectly predictable in a Pavolvian kind of way, but c'mon - I couldn't let it slide.

closg00 · Post #929 » by **closg00** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:47 pm

Upper Decker wrote:
closg00 wrote:How do u figure that Melo is a bust already Upper? Melo is big-man project and the Celts are taking their time with him.

http://www.celticslife.com/2013/01/celt ... e.html?m=1

IIRC Hamady Ndiaye posted similar stats on better %'s in the D-League. I chose to take all d-league stats with a massive grain of salt. Boston's only back up center on the roster is Jason Collins who is averaging a stout 1 ppg and 2 rpg. You'd figure Melo would at least crack the line up for one game out of necessity but he's been beyond AWOL. Not all 1st round picks in the NBA are equal, but it's reasonable to expect at least minor contributions from your early 20's 1st rounder. It seems illogical to not consider him a bust because he's literally provided nothing.

Doesn't it seem illogical to call someone a bust who has not played 1 minute yet in the NBA? Ainge made it clear that they were not going play Melo yet. The Wizards could learn something about player development from other teams, look how Seraphin and Vesely are playing.

MikeTheKid · Post #930 » by **MikeTheKid** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:11 pm

He's gotta jumpshot, should we give Jorts a try???

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... ed_By_Heat

Harrellson Waived By Heat
Jan 07, 2013 2:39 PM EST

The Miami Heat have waived Josh Harrellson.

With Harrellson's release, the Heat have two roster spots open.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #931 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:18 pm

closg00 wrote:Perfect opportunity to try-out Machado after Mack's 10-day is up. Mack isn't a keeper.

Interesting call by the Rockets to sign Patrick Beverly out of Euroleague play to a guaranteed deal. That is why they waived Machado's partially guaranteed deal.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/12/patr ... ckets.html

Machado can definitely step right in and help the Wizards if he's brought in for Mack.

closg00 · Post #932 » by **closg00** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:39 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:He's gotta jumpshot, should we give Jorts a try???

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... ed_By_Heat

Harrellson Waived By Heat
Jan 07, 2013 2:39 PM EST

The Miami Heat have waived Josh Harrellson.

With Harrellson's release, the Heat have two roster spots open.

Harrellson would be more useful to us than Vesely.

Nivek · Post #933 » by **Nivek** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 8:42 pm

Nearly any basketball player would be more useful to the Wizards than Vesely.

hands11 · Post #934 » by **hands11** » Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:52 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... orn_Labrum

Well that trade worked out well for both teams.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #935 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 12:38 am

Dwight Howard is out indefinitely with a torn labrum.

That is certainly not to be confused with a torn labia. This gave me a chuckle:

http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online ... torn_labia

This conversation occured this morning at about 5:35am, it made my whole day.

I show up at the gym and one of the regulars is there with his arm in a sling, you could tell he was waiting for someone to ask what happened, so I bite. He's a nice enough guy but will talk your ear off, and is one of those guys who benches in the Smith with wrist straps and half reps.

Me: Hey, what did you do to your arm.

Him: Dude, I was benching yesterday, getting like 315, then I felt a sharp pain in my shoulder. It bothered me all day so I finally got in to see the doctor and he took an X-ray and said it is probably a torn labia.

Me: A torn Labia, you sure he didnt say labrum?

Him: No, he said torn Labia, he said it is a pretty common bench press injury. He wants to do an MRI to make sure though.

Me: Man, I bet that hurts like hell.

Him: Its not to bad now just a little sore and stiff.

Me: Oh man, I can see how a torn labia would feel stiff. I think I may have torn a labia or two when I was in college, never checked it out though.

Him: Yea, you might have, the doctor says it happens alot and people dont even know it.

Me: I dont know man, if you tear a labia its gotta hurt pretty bad, I think you would know.

Him: Yea, I know I felt it.

Me: Well, I gotta get started. Take it easy and do what the doctor says, make sure you let that Labia heal before you hit it again.

I had to bite my lip to keep from laughing this whole time. He was totally serious about the whole thing.