'13-'14 Rookie Discussion Thread #1

[dckingsfan]

Sophomores going to the Rising Star Game

Harrison Barnes, Golden State
Bradley Beal, Washington
Anthony Davis, New Orleans
Andre Drummond, Detroit
Terrence Jones, Houston
Damian Lillard, Portland
Jared Sullinger, Boston
Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto
Dion Waiters, Cleveland

The Rockets sent Jones to D-League for virtually all his rookie season. Otto needs that, too, IMO.

Violent agreement, I would add that they need to assign a full-time strength and conditioning coach to him as well.

[dckingsfan]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =ws_per_48

I guess this makes a point that Rookies aren't really contributing that much... 64 is the first rookie that pops on the list. So... if Porter can contribute next year it should be fine.

Kind of supports CCJ's point of sending him to the D League.

[dckingsfan]

Player WS/48
Mason Plumlee 0.146
Steven Adams 0.14
Tim Hardaway 0.119
Jan Vesely 0.088
Hollis Thompson 0.075
Chris Singleton 0.069
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 0.063
Kelly Olynyk 0.06
Michael Carter-Williams 0.056
Tony Snell 0.055
Giannis Antetokounmpo 0.046
Trey Burke 0.039
Nate Wolters 0.039
Kevin Seraphin 0.033
Victor Oladipo 0.02
Cody Zeller 0.017
Ben McLemore 0.005
Al Harrington -0.002
Garrett Temple -0.007
Phil Pressey -0.011
Otto Porter -0.04
Glen Rice -0.045
Eric Maynor -0.055

[dckingsfan]

rookie list mixed with our roster WS/48 - I know, horrible formatting.

[hands11]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... remy-tyler

Pulling for Jeremy to get it going. I liked the idea of us taking a flyer on him in 2011

And even if we didn't, he could have been had for nothing afterward.

New York was smart to pick him up for $556,584 and a team option of 948,163 next year.

I hope he makes it. He is still only 22 years old and he is 6' 10", 250 lbs

The Wizards are missing out by endlessly passing up on these kinds or players. Erik Murphy, Iverson, Ryan Kelly, Kendall Marshall. Instead we add players like Maynor and Cartier Martin and hold them to long.

As for Rookies. Tim is making a case for himself. Nice scoring eff for a SG. But MKW has such a lead. He is going to be hard to catch.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2528 ... ardaway-jr.

As for coaches, we need a new one. I think I Brett Brown would have served us well.

Anyway. So far the draft looks like it has produced at least 4 starters. MKW, VO, Burke and Tim Hardaway looks like he is on his way to that status. And Len, Noel and Adams have starter potential down the road. Not bad. Plus you have players like Giannis Adetokunbo and Dennis Schroeder.

I know Bennett and Shabbazz were busts so not surprised there. With I had good news about Otto but he hasn't even played enough to know.

Thanks EG and Randy.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

rookie list mixed with our roster WS/48 - I know, horrible formatting.

WD was right about Adams.

Mason Plumlee wouldn't have been a bad trade down draft day selection. He looks really good with Brooklyn.

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[hands11]

rookie list mixed with our roster WS/48 - I know, horrible formatting.

WD was right about Adams.

Mason Plumlee wouldn't have been a bad trade down draft day selection. He looks really good with Brooklyn.

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Right about what ?

[dckingsfan]

rookie list mixed with our roster WS/48 - I know, horrible formatting.

WD was right about Adams.

Mason Plumlee wouldn't have been a bad trade down draft day selection. He looks really good with Brooklyn.

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Agreed, at this point he looks like a solid rotation player in the FC. I think he would have been the first FC player off the bench for us this year.

[closg00]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6476/jeremy-tyler

Pulling for Jeremy to get it going. I liked the idea of us taking a flyer on him in 2011

And even if we didn't, he could have been had for nothing afterward.

New York was smart to pick him up for $556,584 and a team option of 948,163 next year.

I hope he makes it. He is still only 22 years old and he is 6' 10", 250 lbs

The Wizards are missing out by endlessly passing up on these kinds or players. Erik Murphy, Iverson, Ryan Kelly, Kendall Marshall. Instead we add players like Maynor and Cartier Martin and hold them to long.

As for Rookies. Tim is making a case for himself. Nice scoring eff for a SG. But MKW has such a lead. He is going to be hard to catch.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2528 ... ardaway-jr.

As for coaches, we need a new one. I think I Brett Brown would have served us well.

+1 We had to burn the Okafor asset in-part because Mgmt didn't bail on Singleton and Vesely. Ernie is not a proactive GM, he only does patchwork crap when injuries occur. Note how NY has a team-option for the 2nd year.

[AFM]

Porter needs to go on dat dere dirty bulk diet. Order dat dude some dominos

[Kanyewest]

Cody Zeller gets blocked by Greg Monroe

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcBq7j9h2PU[/youtube]

[dckingsfan]

ESPN has it's - Worst Class Ever posted: http://espn.go.com/nba/

[dckingsfan]

Interesting and small list...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =ws_per_48

especially compared to last year...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... =ws_per_48

[Zonkerbl]

ESPN has it's - Worst Class Ever posted: http://espn.go.com/nba/

Insider

[hands11]

Nahh. I don't think its going to grade as a bad draft. Specially when we look back at it in after they have played 3 years.

Its just a class that was missing marquee early impact stars and had several players injured. But we know that going into it.

It was a draft of mostly good support pieces with no big name Duncan, KD, LeBron in it.

But a player like VO is likely going to keep looking better. He is one of the players I though had star potential. I think Burke still has a chance to be a leader at PG. Also MCW is looking pretty awesome as a rookie. Way over performed. Tim Hardaway Jr has a chance to be a solid starter. And the bigs like Len, Noel and Adams are just getting started. Greek Freak is still young.

I think it was a good draft class. The more time passes the better it will look.

[dckingsfan]

In quantity, there aren't as many players that are making an impact or look to make an impact compared to recent drafts.

And as you have stated, there aren't any marquee players.

So, why is this a good draft? Is it because the players filled holes within their teams better? Or there is pent-up talent that will emerge in future years?

[dckingsfan]

Looks like no one is catching MCW...

Mason Plumlee : BROOKLYN NETS rockets to #3 - what a great pick.

[hands11]

In quantity, there aren't as many players that are making an impact or look to make an impact compared to recent drafts.

And as you have stated, there aren't any marquee players.

So, why is this a good draft? Is it because the players filled holes within their teams better? Or there is pent-up talent that will emerge in future years?

Would be cool to see some numbers year over years like.

Of the 60 draft, how many remain in the NBA after 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 years
What was the classes total mins, pts, rounds over those years.
How many starters over the same

1-20, I see a lot of players that should still be contribution 6 years from now.

[dckingsfan]

In quantity, there aren't as many players that are making an impact or look to make an impact compared to recent drafts.

And as you have stated, there aren't any marquee players.

So, why is this a good draft? Is it because the players filled holes within their teams better? Or there is pent-up talent that will emerge in future years?

Would be cool to see some numbers year over years like.

Of the 60 draft, how many remain in the NBA after 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 years
What was the classes total mins, pts, rounds over those years.
How many starters over the same

1-20, I see a lot of players that should still be contribution 6 years from now.

Well just looking at the rookie years - it certainly isn't looking good for this year's class.

[dckingsfan]

Interesting...

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/04/0 ... e-numbers/