Why Kevin Seraphin Could Have A Breakout Season

[hands11]

Dude has been rebounding, blocking shots and dunking with a lot more aggressiveness the last few games.

[queridiculo]

3 turnovers and -11 in 17 minutes, that dunk was great though right?! He's a regular Etan Thomas out there.

[miller31time]

3 turnovers and -11 in 17 minutes, that dunk was great though right?! He's a regular Etan Thomas out there.

I guarantee you that the average Wizards fan (and perhaps our coach) will come away from this game thinking Seraphin played well.

J Michael thinking this dude is worth 8mil per season makes me laugh....then cry.

[TheSecretWeapon]

3 turnovers and -11 in 17 minutes, that dunk was great though right?! He's a regular Etan Thomas out there.

I guarantee you that the average Wizards fan (and perhaps our coach) will come away from this game thinking Seraphin played well.

J Michael thinking this dude is worth 8mil per season makes me laugh....then cry.

J. Michael thinks $8-to-$10 million. And, I'd be ecstatic if Seraphin could get a deal like that. Especially if he signed it with Oklahoma City.

[hands11]

3 turnovers and -11 in 17 minutes, that dunk was great though right?! He's a regular Etan Thomas out there.

I guarantee you that the average Wizards fan (and perhaps our coach) will come away from this game thinking Seraphin played well.

J Michael thinking this dude is worth 8mil per season makes me laugh....then cry.

J. Michael thinks $8-to-$10 million. And, I'd be ecstatic if Seraphin could get a deal like that. Especially if he signed it with Oklahoma City.

You know like I know, there is no way he is getting that. He would be luck to get 5M. I expect more like 2 years at 4M with a player option for the 3rd year. Probably less.

[hands11]

Well the last 2-3 games, Kev has returned to the Spaz-O-Matic

This idea of playing with more intensity and effort while also getting less minutes I believe steers KIife exactly in the opposite direction he needs to go. He needs to play calm. He needs to slow down. And with the less minutes has come less passing.

While his game clearly still has major holes in maturity/wisdom, he has done some nice things this year. But he still hasn't turned that into effectiveness which is the ultimate goal.

He looks to me to be a decent player to keep around if they can sign him for Sessions type money. One year deal with option for 2 to 2.5M is all I would offer. And if not KLife, at least Blair is still signed.

Like with drafting Otto in case TA left, seems like the Blair is the back up plan to Kevin. They clearly don't need and can't afford 2 roster spots for both of them. Not when they need open spots to audition other players for other skills.

Gortat, Nene, Hump, Klife, Gooden, Blair was great depth, but longer term... to much similarity.

Gooden is likely gone for a younger stretch prospect. And one of KLife or Blair will be gone. That two slots.

That front court will get remade over the next 2 years with only Gortat likely remaining. Man, Hump really needs to extend his range to 3. That would help so much.

[hands11]

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400579230

Now that's how you do it Kevin.

One of his best games. He played smart. Passed the ball quit. When he shot, it was one of his money ball shots in his spot all except one shot I can think of.

One series. He posted. Got it. Passed it out quickly. Re-posted. Got it back and make a move and still passed it again to a cutter.

That's how you do it Kev.

Now do it consistently.

This dude is maddening.

[Kanyewest]

J. Michael thinks $8-to-$10 million. And, I'd be ecstatic if Seraphin could get a deal like that. Especially if he signed it with Oklahoma City.

OKC is probably happy with their big men rotation of Ibaka, Kanter, Collison, McGary, and Adams- plus Durant as a small ball four. The Knicks or Lakers could overpay for Seraphin though.

[nate33]

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400579230

Now that's how you do it Kevin.

One of his best games. He played smart. Passed the ball quit. When he shot, it was one of his money ball shots in his spot all except one shot I can think of.

One series. He posted. Got it. Passed it out quickly. Re-posted. Got it back and make a move and still passed it again to a cutter.

That's how you do it Kev.

Now do it consistently.

This dude is maddening.

It's not gonna happen. He will never be consistent and he will never be a good rebounder. I think he has a place in this league, but it's as a 4th big on a mediocre team earning $3M a year or so.

[dckingsfan]

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          ORtg   DRtg   WS/48   VORP   RPM
2010-11   95     110    0.017   -0.4
2011-12   105    105    0.094    0.2   
2012-13   89     104    0.004   -1.6   
2013-14   100    106    0.066   -0.5   -3.09
2014-15   98     104    0.076   -0.1   -5.08


[queridiculo]

Things that are guaranteed to happen every time Seraphin is on the floor.

Shuffling his feet and turning the ball over when he's being doubled.

A foul by Seraphin following a turnover he's responsible for.

Turnover as a result of a moving pick, at least once a game.

Gathering an offensive rebound and immediately putting up and ill advised fading jumper.

Anything I've missed?

[hands11]

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These numbers above are not accurate. Your WS/48 and VORPs are messed up.

[dckingsfan]

Thanks hands, corrected...

[hands11]

Thanks hands, corrected...

np

Interesting to see his WS/48 and VORP marginally better. But see RPM 2 pts lower.

I like the RPM system but sometimes it doesn't make sense to me. Specially for KS. His ORPM is -3.96 and his DPRM is -1.12

You would expect to see his ORPM better then that.

Nikola Vucevic ORPM is -1.58 and he averages 19pts a game at .530

ORPM: Player's estimated on-court impact on team offensive performance, measured in points scored per 100 offensive possessions

RPM stats are provided by Jeremias Engelmann in consultation with Steve Ilardi. RPM is based on Engelmann's xRAPM (Regularized Adjusted Plus-Minus). Play-by-play data provided by Basketball-Reference.com.

[dckingsfan]

Yep, it just shows that although a great basketball player he isn't a good NBA player - year over year. And I don't think you can use any one statistic to understand a players contribution - this pretty much says, don't keep him.

[fishercob]

The Wizards are 7 -2 in their last 9 games. Serahphin has played 10.8 mpg.

The less Seraphin, the better. Drew should absolutely keep KS's minutes when Hump comes back. Not saying Drew is a great player or even a good one, but defenses react to his spacing in a such a fashion that helps the offense.

[dckingsfan]

The Wizards are 7 -2 in their last 9 games. Serahphin has played 10.8 mpg.

The less Seraphin, the better. Drew should absolutely keep KS's minutes when Hump comes back. Not saying Drew is a great player or even a good one, but defenses react to his spacing in a such a fashion that helps the offense.

And he doesn't foul as often...

[airyak13]

Can someone please find me that Kevin Seraphin diagram where every scenario basically ended with "Jump Hook Shot"? It was posted on here about 2 years ago.

[dckingsfan]

Can someone please find me that Kevin Seraphin diagram where every scenario basically ended with "Jump Hook Shot"? It was posted on here about 2 years ago.

It has been replaced by one with a turnover...

[airyak13]

Can someone please find me that Kevin Seraphin diagram where every scenario basically ended with "Jump Hook Shot"? It was posted on here about 2 years ago.

It has been replaced by one with a turnover...

Found it