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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#21 » by Higga » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:54 pm

Even though I don't think the Hawks are that good, I'd still rather face the Nets. That geriatric team can't keep up with our studs and you know Pierce is going to want to kill his old team(not that he wouldn't bring it vs. the Hawks).
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Post#22 » by Dark Faze » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:51 pm

I just want to to watch us continue to play good basketball
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#23 » by fishercob » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:09 pm

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Yup, George McGinnis (sp?) probably put up better numbers, but I'd take Jones over him 7 days a week.



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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#24 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:03 am

Wow. Love out for the playoffs.

Now that helps when we face up with CLE in the ECF

Could we finally get our revenge against LeDouche ?
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Post#25 » by dobrojim » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:44 pm

He knows the player tendencies I guess but remember, they changed coaches.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#26 » by Sluggerface » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:05 pm

hands11 wrote:Wow. Love out for the playoffs.

Now that helps when we face up with CLE in the ECF

Could we finally get our revenge against LeDouche ?


I find it pretty hilarious that people still think Cleveland can win a title this year with Thompson and Mozgov as their only viable frontcourt players.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#27 » by Ruzious » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:51 pm

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hands11 wrote:Wow. Love out for the playoffs.

Now that helps when we face up with CLE in the ECF

Could we finally get our revenge against LeDouche ?


I find it pretty hilarious that people still think Cleveland can win a title this year with Thompson and Mozgov as their only viable frontcourt players.

Their small forward (some guy) is going to move to PF. We'll see if Mike Miller and James Jones can still do enough at the 3. I wouldn't bet the mortgage against them.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#28 » by Dat2U » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:55 pm

Sluggerface wrote:
hands11 wrote:Wow. Love out for the playoffs.

Now that helps when we face up with CLE in the ECF

Could we finally get our revenge against LeDouche ?


I find it pretty hilarious that people still think Cleveland can win a title this year with Thompson and Mozgov as their only viable frontcourt players.


It's called denial.

People can continue to think Mosgov & Thompson are very good players if they want lol.
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Post#29 » by dckingsfan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:00 pm

Just guessing it is going to be something like this until Smith comes back

PG: Irving, Dellavedova
SG: Shumpert, Miller
SF: Jones, Miller
PF: James, Thompson
C: Mozgov, Thompson

Then

PG: Irving, Dellavedova
SG: Shumpert, Miller
SF: Smith, Jones, Miller
PF: James, Thompson
C: Mozgov, Thompson

They have to go small to have a chance.
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Post#30 » by dckingsfan » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:02 pm

Regardless, I think they lost their 3rd and 4th best players for the first two games... if they get a split, they will be lucky.
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Post#31 » by J-Ves » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:50 pm

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hands11 wrote:Wow. Love out for the playoffs.

Now that helps when we face up with CLE in the ECF

Could we finally get our revenge against LeDouche ?


I find it pretty hilarious that people still think Cleveland can win a title this year with Thompson and Mozgov as their only viable frontcourt players.


It's called denial.

People can continue to think Mosgov & Thompson are very good players if they want lol.

They are "good" in that they are playoff rotation quality players, but TT is an energy big off the bench nothing more, and Mosgov is probably the worst center left in the playoffs. The sad thing is CLE still might make it into the finals on the back of the crappy east, but they will lose in 4 or 5 to the Spurs or the Warriors. Then CLE fans will say things would of been different if they had Love. No they wouldn't, your team doesn't play defense and you traded away your chance at a dynasty when you gave up Wiggins for peanuts.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#32 » by TheSecretWeapon » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:51 am

With the way Hawks keep getting hurt, definitely Atlanta. Millsap, Horford, Teague, Sefalosha...and now Carroll did something to his hand.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#33 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:09 am

The Nets are terrible. They are a slow team that's reliant on making jumpers off the bounce on offense and they aren't physical on defense or the glass despite the fact they are bigger than everyone else. And they can't defend the perimeter at a playoff level. There really is no debate here. We want Brooklyn. They are a bad team and Atlanta is good. Atlanta is tough, they can shoot, defend the perimeter, and they are very smart. A series against Atlanta will be a dogfight and there are certain things that are a lock to happen that scare me: they will force a ton of turnovers and run on us and they will make a million threes. OTOH, we'd sweep Brooklyn.

But if you want Atlanta based on the idea that a much, much tougher test would be good for us, then you'll probably get your wish.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#34 » by TheSecretWeapon » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:25 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:The Nets are terrible. They are a slow team that's reliant on making jumpers off the bounce on offense and they aren't physical on defense or the glass despite the fact they are bigger than everyone else. And they can't defend the perimeter at a playoff level. There really is no debate here. We want Brooklyn. They are a bad team and Atlanta is good. Atlanta is tough, they can shoot, defend the perimeter, and they are very smart. A series against Atlanta will be a dogfight and there are certain things that are a lock to happen that scare me: they will force a ton of turnovers and run on us and they will make a million threes. OTOH, we'd sweep Brooklyn.

But if you want Atlanta based on the idea that a much, much tougher test would be good for us, then you'll probably get your wish.


You're definitely correct on this. I think there are three main reasons why the Nets-Hawks series has been close:

  1. The Hawks coasted the last month of the season. They clinched their playoff spot on March 2.
  2. Even with the month-long coast, the Hawks are dinged up -- to varying degrees, the performance of Millsap, Horford, Teague, and Sefalosha have been affected by their health.
  3. The perils of small sample size.
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Re: Who is the better match up for the Wizards Round 2 

Post#35 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:03 pm

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stevemcqueen1 wrote:The Nets are terrible. They are a slow team that's reliant on making jumpers off the bounce on offense and they aren't physical on defense or the glass despite the fact they are bigger than everyone else. And they can't defend the perimeter at a playoff level. There really is no debate here. We want Brooklyn. They are a bad team and Atlanta is good. Atlanta is tough, they can shoot, defend the perimeter, and they are very smart. A series against Atlanta will be a dogfight and there are certain things that are a lock to happen that scare me: they will force a ton of turnovers and run on us and they will make a million threes. OTOH, we'd sweep Brooklyn.

But if you want Atlanta based on the idea that a much, much tougher test would be good for us, then you'll probably get your wish.


You're definitely correct on this. I think there are three main reasons why the Nets-Hawks series has been close:

  1. The Hawks coasted the last month of the season. They clinched their playoff spot on March 2.
  2. Even with the month-long coast, the Hawks are dinged up -- to varying degrees, the performance of Millsap, Horford, Teague, and Sefalosha have been affected by their health.
  3. The perils of small sample size.


Yeah, swings in level of execution are so big game to game in the playoffs that you can't trust the sample size of a series to indicate how the team will play next round.

Some things we do know about Atlanta:

- They can shoot threes from all five positions
- They are good at defending the perimeter and clogging passing lanes
- They are very good on the offensive glass
- They are a great fast break offense where they can both score against numbers at the basket AND hit trailing threes from a variety of positions
- And thus, they are extremely good at turning TOs and loose balls and offensive rebounds into points. Probably better than anyone else in the league this year at doing this. When Horford senses an opening, that 50/50 ball WILL end up in his hands and he is going to react faster than everyone else and be at the rim scoring before you figure out what's going on.
- They have good PnR ball handlers
- Korver's ability to reliably hit threes against good defense off high screens is a major source of offense for them. He is surprisingly physical in his ability to get open against tough defense. Does a good job running his man into screens and pushing off of them without getting called and they set a million high screens and back screens for him over the course of a game.

Whether or not we can defend those various sources of offense is the key to the series for us IMO. Have to completely stifle them by being strong with our rebounding. Have to be disciplined and limit turnovers. Have to get back as fast as we can when we do turn it over, and make sure someone is covering the trailers. And we have to find somebody that can stick to Korver, I think Porter in particular is in for an exhausting, challenging series.
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Post#36 » by jmrosenth » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:37 pm

I think we need to think bigger. I'm liking our matchup with the Warriors in the finals.
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Post#37 » by nate33 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:45 pm

jmrosenth wrote:I think we need to think bigger. I'm liking our matchup with the Warriors in the finals.

I don't.

I think we should all be rooting for the Grizzlies. We can match up with them.
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Post#38 » by jmrosenth » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:50 pm

I'm still bitter about the '75 Finals and want revenge.
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Post#39 » by Ruzious » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:54 pm

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jmrosenth wrote:I think we need to think bigger. I'm liking our matchup with the Warriors in the finals.

I don't.

I think we should all be rooting for the Grizzlies. We can match up with them.

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Post#40 » by hands11 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:55 pm

Which Otto stepping up and the Wizards trading A Miller for Sessions, the Wizards have gone from

"Old" to "Not Old" just like that. Which is why the worry over them being old was always so over played.

Wall, Beal and Otto as a core is younger then either ATL or BRK's core. Actually, its the youngest core in the playoffs once MIL is gone.. If that happens this series.

Gortat isn't old either. Just mature. He should be good to go well into the 35 range.

So you get PP for hopefully another year, then that age is gone as well.

Plenty of time and opportunity to roll in younger and mid/young aged players over the next couple years. Wall is 24 and will be 25 in Sept. You can start rolling on a young PG behind him to learn now. Beal and Otto are still just 21. :lol:

Otto not a bust.
Wizards not old.
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Keep the rolling rebuild going. We are at the early stages to the Stage 4 with Wall coming into his prime as a WallStar and Beal and Otto soon to follow.

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