NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 5

Kanyewest · Post #1541 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 5:06 am

I believe Beal had 2 points in the first half and I was thinking Goodwin could do that. Then Beal had 18 in the 2nd half with a steal and block and clutch defense to close out the game on Fox.

Kanyewest · Post #1542 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:30 pm

Bridges has been kind of meh to close out the season. He's only broken 20 points once in his last 11 games and has had single digits in 2 of his last 3.

NatP4 · Post #1543 » by **NatP4** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:29 pm

Few minutes left in the rockets game, but Amen Thompson has 18-11-10 on 10 shots, has been dominant. Jalen Green finishes with another awful game to round out another awful season in which he was even less efficient than his rookie season. Got benched for the 4th quarter.

Amen Thompson: 15.3 points 10.6 rebounds 4.1 assists 2.0 steals 0.9 blocks 2.3 turnovers 57% TS

Scoot Henderson: 17.7 points 6.9 assists 4.0 rebounds 1.0 steals 0.3 blocks 4.3 turnovers 48.9% TS

NatP4 · Post #1544 » by **NatP4** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:48 pm

I wouldn’t trade for him, but Ivey is going to be very available this offseason. I think they would have to attach an asset to get a player like Kispert in a return.

Sasser has clearly leapfrogged Ivey as a prospect, and Ausar will be back after a promising rookie season. They probably want Sarr in the draft.

Post #1545 » by **nate33** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:00 pm

NatP4 wrote:They probably want Sarr in the draft.

You think?

I figure Detroit is one of the few lotto teams that's not particularly interested in Sarr since they have Duren and Beef Stew. If they landed the #1 overall pick, I'd expect them to try and trade down.

NatP4 · Post #1546 » by **NatP4** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:05 pm

nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:They probably want Sarr in the draft.

You think?

I figure Detroit is one of the few lotto teams that's not particularly interested in Sarr since they have Duren and Beef Stew. If they landed the #1 overall pick, I'd expect them to try and trade down.

Maybe Risacher first, Sarr 2nd actually. They have two primary option PGs in Cunningham and Sasser, probably no interest in Topic or Sheppard. They have invested in Ausar, a promising young non-shooting wing. Ivey doesn’t really fit. No way they are interested in Castle. They need wing/off ball shooting.

I don’t think Duren and Stewart are preventing them from taking another big.

NatP4 · Post #1547 » by **NatP4** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:07 pm

And we have to find a way to steal Dyson Daniels away from NOP. He’s Jalen Suggs pre-breakout right now. Great young player. I just can’t think of a realistic trade with them.

Post #1548 » by **penbeast0** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:14 pm

NatP4 wrote:
I’m not talking about giving up or not giving up on a player, I’m saying Green was the wrong pick. Franz Wagner is a significantly better player at the same age as Green. Same goes for Jalen Suggs and Evan Mobley. It’s a bad pick. Jalen Green is not a good player.

No one ever circles back on these guys because they always score a lot of points. People still think Jordan Poole is a good player. It’s too easy for people to claim that Colin Sexton is having some change of scenery breakout in Utah now.

Scoot over the Thompson twins was an awful pick as well. There is a clear theme here in my view. Drunk on upside.

I don't think anyone not related to Poole or outside of immediate friends think Jordan Poole is a good player. Some still think he can become one.

I do agree that inefficient volume scoring is the most overrated skill among NBA players. The things that make a player able to score at volume (athleticism, quick release, etc.) are indeed pointers to look for in a young player but as that player matures, it becomes harder and harder for me to justify shooting at volume inefficiently. That goes for Poole, that goes for Cade Cunningham, that goes for guys in the Hall of Fame.

I do realize that people disagree with me but from what I've seen, inefficient volume shooting is a team negative most of the time and when it's a positive, it's not that strong a positive.

Post #1549 » by **nate33** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:55 pm

NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
NatP4 wrote:They probably want Sarr in the draft.

You think?

I figure Detroit is one of the few lotto teams that's not particularly interested in Sarr since they have Duren and Beef Stew. If they landed the #1 overall pick, I'd expect them to try and trade down.

Maybe Risacher first, Sarr 2nd actually. They have two primary option PGs in Cunningham and Sasser, probably no interest in Topic or Sheppard. They have invested in Ausar, a promising young non-shooting wing. Ivey doesn’t really fit. No way they are interested in Castle. They need wing/off ball shooting.

I don’t think Duren and Stewart are preventing them from taking another big.

Sheppard might make good sense for Detroit. They have a big PG in Cunningham, which allows them to play a small SG like Sheppard. (I think Sheppard becomes a true PG in time, but he can help them right away with his off ball scoring.)

That said, I don’t see them drafting Sheppard with a #1 or #2 pick.

NatP4 · Post #1550 » by **NatP4** » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:10 am

Sasser was a 1st round pick that played 1300+ minutes and had a solid rookie season, put up 15&6 on 54% TS. There’s no way they draft another 6’2ish guard.

Think Detroit looks for wing help but takes Sarr if they get #1.

Portland: Wing help, think they would go Risacher if he’s there.

Charlotte seems like a great fit for Castle. Could see them liking Sheppard as well.

Toronto: wing help, Risacher/Knecht.

Washington and SAS are eyeing the same player if I had to guess: Topic.

NatP4 · Post #1551 » by **NatP4** » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:15 am

Detroit: Sarr
Washington: Topic
Portland: Risacher
Charlotte: Castle
San Antonio: Sheppard
Toronto: Knecht
Memphis: Clingan

Jay81 · Post #1552 » by **Jay81** » Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:01 am

Beal is playing the best ball of his career

Kanyewest · Post #1553 » by **Kanyewest** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:21 am

6 turnovers for Curry and Thompson can't make a 3 or basket.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1554 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:31 am

Kanyewest wrote:6 turnovers for Curry and Thompson can't make a 3 or basket.

This was Klay's and/or Draymond's last game with Golden State.

It's time to pull the plug.

9 and 20 · Post #1555 » by **9 and 20** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:40 am

Hard to feel bad for a team that had Curry, Durant, and a bunch of championships. Felt bad anyway watching Klay flailing.

Post #1556 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:45 pm

Man Zion Williamson's hamstrings are *cursed*

closg00 · Post #1557 » by **closg00** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:20 pm

So you thought that Nic Batum was washed.....

9 and 20 · Post #1558 » by **9 and 20** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:51 pm

Out West - Denver is going to smoke the Lakers. I hope Sacramento takes that 8 seed. I think they put up a better than good fight against OKC. Could be anyone's game in the West, though. Kinda hoping for Minnesota to make it all the way through, just because Anthony Edwards is such a fun player.

Boston has such an easy walk to at least the ECF. Pretty sure we're going to see Philly/Boston in the east with Giannis not 100%.

9 and 20 · Post #1559 » by **9 and 20** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:17 pm

Beal mostly invisible against Minnesota. Anthony Edwards has been great. Gobert also.

Cleveland has a lot of talent. I don't think Orlando has enough experience yet to make it by them. Cleveland/Boston should be fairly competitive, I think. Hoping so anyway.

Frichuela · Post #1560 » by **Frichuela** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:22 pm

9 and 20 wrote:Beal mostly invisible against Minnesota. Anthony Edwards has been great. Gobert also.

Cleveland has a lot of talent. I don't think Orlando has enough experience yet to make it by them. Cleveland/Boston should be fairly competitive, I think. Hoping so anyway.

Orlando needs a vet PG desperately!