Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8

Post #701 » by **Rafael122** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:16 pm

So Morey accepted the deal that was on the table 2 months ago. He's lost his fastball.

Post #702 » by **nate33** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:28 pm

Rafael122 wrote:So Morey accepted the deal that was on the table 2 months ago. He's lost his fastball.

His problem was acquiring Harden in the first place. That guy is the worst team killer of all time. Nobody in history has sabotaged 3 teams in a row like that. A true disgrace to professional sports.

mhd · Post #703 » by **mhd** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:12 pm

nate33 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:So Morey accepted the deal that was on the table 2 months ago. He's lost his fastball.

His problem was acquiring Harden in the first place. That guy is the worst team killer of all time. Nobody in history has sabotaged 3 teams in a row like that. A true disgrace to professional sports.

Yup, Harden frankly should never have been on the top 75. Jokic has already surpassed him. Imagine if Jordan didn't coast on defense like Harden did. Instead, MJ treated defense just as importantly as offense. He refused to lose. Look at the crappy postseason performances of Harden in comparison.

76ciology · Post #704 » by **76ciology** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:30 pm

Rafael122 wrote:So Morey accepted the deal that was on the table 2 months ago. He's lost his fastball.

Got an extra first and 2 extra 2nd round picks.

Post #705 » by **nate33** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:01 pm

Read on Twitter

Man, Charlotte is so bad at drafting. They're basically the only team the Wizards can look down upon.

payitforward · Post #706 » by **payitforward** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:30 pm

In the Harden deal, Philly picked up one of the best 22-year old players in the league: Kenyon Martin, Jr.

If they'd trade him for any combination of a veteran & a future R2 pick, I'd jump on it. But, I'm guessing they're too smart to go for anything of that kind.

OTOH, I wonder whether the Clippers would be willing to part with Filip Petrusev, who comes to them in this same deal....

mhd · Post #707 » by **mhd** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:15 pm

nate33 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Man, Charlotte is so bad at drafting. They're basically the only team the Wizards can look down upon.

I think Kupchak is a good talent evaluator. Mark Williams was a good pick. Obviously Alonzo was a good pick. Ditto PJ. Despite being a turd, Bridges is a talent. Everyone has misses. Kupchak is way above EG in comparison.

Post #708 » by **nate33** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:27 pm

mhd wrote:
nate33 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Man, Charlotte is so bad at drafting. They're basically the only team the Wizards can look down upon.

I think Kupchak is a good talent evaluator. Mark Williams was a good pick. Obviously Alonzo was a good pick. Ditto PJ. Despite being a turd, Bridges is a talent. Everyone has misses. Kupchak is way above EG in comparison.

Mark Williams was a good pick.

Lamelo Ball was a no-brainer. Everyone knew that Ball, Wiseman and Edwards were going top 3. Charlotte picked 3rd and draft the guy who was still left on the board. I'm not giving Kupchak credit for that.

The PJ pick was okay I guess. It wasn't a home run or anything, but not a bad acquisition at #12 in a pretty lousy draft. Herro was still on the board and went #13, but at least he avoided Doumbouya and Langford who went 14th and 15th.

The Bridges pick seems good at first, until you realize he was acquired on a draft day trade with Charlotte sending out SGA as the outgoing centerpiece.

payitforward · Post #709 » by **payitforward** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:29 pm

nate33 wrote:Man, Charlotte is so bad at drafting. They're basically the only team the Wizards can look down upon.

They're terrible -- but I'm not so sure we can look down on them to tell the truth.

Since 2018:

The Bad:
2018 they took SG-A & traded him for Miles Bridges & 2 R2 picks.

2019 they took PJ Washington at 12; he has not been at all good.
2021 -- Bouknight...

The Good:
2019 Cody Martin at #36 -- that was a very high-value pick.
2020 Lamelo at #3 (a no-brainer but still very high value given how meh the next 9 picks have turned out to be)
2022 traded 13 (Duren) -- questionable in principle, but they did get a boatload.
2022 Mark Williams at #15. Looks like he may be a very good NBA player.

Overall that's Miles Bridges, Cody Martin, Lamelo & Mark Williams. Plus a bunch of picks in the trades mentioned above.

As for us:
2018: Troy Brown Jr. -- traded for Gaff
2019: Rui -- turned into 2 future R2 picks
2020: Deni -- then wasted a R2 pick
2021: Corey -- then wasted a R2 pick
2022: Johnny -- then wasted a R2 pick

Overall that's Gafford, Avdija, Kispert & Johnny Davis. Plus a couple of picks.

Neither team has been any good, but through '22 at least, the Hornets were better than the Wiz if anything....

payitforward · Post #710 » by **payitforward** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:33 pm

nate33 wrote:...The Bridges pick seems good at first, until you realize he was acquired on a draft day trade with Charlotte sending out SGA as the outgoing centerpiece.

Without a doubt this one is the lead weight. But at least Bridges was a good player (if not a good person....)

I_Like_Dirt · Post #711 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 4:45 am

nate33 wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:So Morey accepted the deal that was on the table 2 months ago. He's lost his fastball.

His problem was acquiring Harden in the first place. That guy is the worst team killer of all time. Nobody in history has sabotaged 3 teams in a row like that. A true disgrace to professional sports.

Morey's problem is that he always has to poison the well to try to make himself look better. Going for Harden wouldn't have come with this kind of drama if he had just been willing to pay the going rate. Instead he decided to nickel and dime things so he could appear like he was building a great supporting cast with PJ Tucker's skeleton and Paul Reed. Letting a single one of those guys go and he has money for Harden and he doesn't have a problem, and if he wants out of Harden he can quietly look for trades behind the scenes without leaking stuff all the time, which he can't help himself from doing.

gambitx777 · Post #712 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 9:49 pm

Josh primo is on the clippers btw lol that flew under the radar lol .

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closg00 · Post #713 » by **closg00** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:53 pm

gambitx777 wrote:Josh primo is on the clippers btw lol that flew under the radar lol .

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I am just finding out about this, I floated we should give me a chance....

Kanyewest · Post #714 » by **Kanyewest** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:02 pm

Kai Jones might be signed by the Clippers

Post #715 » by **nate33** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:10 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Kai Jones might be signed by the Clippers

It's like they're trying to torture Tyrone Lue. What did that poor man do to deserve this treatment?

gambitx777 · Post #716 » by **gambitx777** » Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:11 am

nate33 wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Kai Jones might be signed by the Clippers

It's like they're trying to torture Tyrone Lue. What did that poor man do to deserve this treatment?

The last clippers are gonna change their name to the la mentally ill

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gambitx777 · Post #717 » by **gambitx777** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:22 pm

WoW scoot getting sent to the G league is wild! I was never on his band wagon.

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TGW · Post #718 » by **TGW** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:55 pm

gambitx777 wrote:WoW scoot getting sent to the G league is wild! I was never on his band wagon.

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It was just to rehab his ankle. He's been injured.

gambitx777 · Post #719 » by **gambitx777** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:03 pm

TGW wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:WoW scoot getting sent to the G league is wild! I was never on his band wagon.

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It was just to rehab his ankle. He's been injured.

He was trash before that..... I smell a cover up.

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Post #720 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:01 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
TGW wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:WoW scoot getting sent to the G league is wild! I was never on his band wagon.

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It was just to rehab his ankle. He's been injured.
He was trash before that..... I smell a cover up.

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If that's true...yikes!

Whiffing on him puts the Portland rebuild in a hole before it starts.