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Post#1381 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 9, 2024 9:39 pm

payitforward wrote:Castle's not on that 2d list, dat?


No. I like guards/wings that aren't hesitant to shoot it. He's a jump shot away from being a damn good role player ... i'm not using a top pick to find the next Derrick White or Hebert Jones. That's how you end up with MKG (learned from my mistakes) and DeAndre Hunter as top 3 picks.
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Post#1382 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 9, 2024 9:48 pm

Castle as a late lottery/mid-first pick is fine. He does alot of things well but you gotta squint harder than a mf'er to see a high ceiling there.
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Post#1383 » by Dat2U » Tue Apr 9, 2024 9:52 pm

I could see the FO leaning Topic based on his size & instincts. He fits the type of guy they looked for in OKC. Arguably a better prospect than Josh Giddey.
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Post#1384 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Tue Apr 9, 2024 11:36 pm

NatP4 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
NatP4 wrote:New No Ceilings mock:

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/2024-nba-mock-draft-v5

Has us taking Topic at #2 (yes please), Edey up to #11, Murray-Boyles at #20. Ware at #26 would be great value.



I don't know anything about Ware but Topic + project center would be an ideal draft for me.


Topic and CMB that’s all I’m asking for.



This guy's a little overboard, and wrong about Deni, but I agree I don't see it with Topic. He looks so unathletic, slow, no burst or acceleration, not much length or quickness for a PG. He looks to me like he'd be a really good college guard that would struggle in the NBA. He wouldn't be in my top 10.

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Post#1385 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:36 am

Dat2U wrote:The only big I'd take with a top 6 pick is Alex Sarr. Not a chance in hell i'd feel comfortable taking Clingan that high.

Sarr, Dillingham, Topic & Holland are who I'm considering at the top.

I also like Sheppard, Collier, McCain, Knecht, Ware, Kolek & de Silva.
Kolek looks like a cannot miss late first to me. He's a starting NBA guard IMO

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Post#1387 » by dobrojim » Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:30 pm

So has Reed Sheppard's draft stock now fallen below where we'd likely pick?
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Post#1388 » by Benjammin » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:11 pm

Fwiw, I still think Reed is in play if the Wizards are picking in the 5 or 6 spot. Dat is making me think harder about Dillingham. I hope (maybe just the mystery box) that the three international guys would be the top 3 followed by Dillingham/Shepperd/Clingan.
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Post#1389 » by Dat2U » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:22 pm

Benjammin wrote:Fwiw, I still think Reed is in play if the Wizards are picking in the 5 or 6 spot. Dat is making me think harder about Dillingham. I hope (maybe just the mystery box) that the three international guys would be the top 3 followed by Dillingham/Shepperd/Clingan.


Reed is in play if you think he's got enough in his bag as a ballhandler to be PG. Off the ball he loses value being an undersized low usage 2. His off the ball defense is very good but he will definitely get attacked on the ball.

I lean Topic & Dillingham over Shepp because I don't see a versatile handle or a guy that's chaining together multiple moves. I worry he's more of a game manager than a play maker. Still he's a lock lottery pick this year although I don't see a huge difference between Shepp and Jared McCain.
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Post#1390 » by closg00 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:42 pm

I absolutely would take Dillingham over Reed, and I will be hoping we take him if Sarr is gone, I don’t want Topic > Dillingham. Dillingham would be the most dynamic Wizard since Gilbert.
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Post#1391 » by bsilver » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:09 pm

I was impressed by Alabama's PG Mark Sears play in the tournament. Reminded me of Jalen Brunson. Good passer, driver, shooter. Downside is his size, 6-1. Should be considered in the 2nd round if he's available.
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Post#1392 » by DCZards » Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:48 pm

I’m a little concerned about Dillingham’s size (176lbs). But De’Aaron Fox (who is the same height at 6-3) is not a lot bigger and I’d expect Dillingham to put on weight…as Fox has done since leaving Kentucky.

Dillingham is an amazing offensive talent…and given the way that Kentucky guards like Fox and Maxey have blown up it might be a mistake to pass on drafting him.

I’d still take Sarr at #1 and I believe Castle will improve his shooting and be a versatile and outstanding wing player. (Been checking out some film on Holland and, offensively, he might be as good or better than Castle).
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Post#1393 » by doclinkin » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:02 pm

Welp.

I think you can knock Risacher down the top of the draft boards. He played decent in the first game of Tuesdays Eurocup final. 11 pts, 4 boards in the loss. Then came up way short in the rematch for only 2 pts. letting Paris win the cup.

Here's the good and bad of his game Tuesday night. Shot it on target and short most of the night. But decent defense.

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Post#1394 » by nate33 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:57 pm

DCZards wrote:I’m a little concerned about Dillingham’s size (176lbs). But De’Aaron Fox (who is the same height at 6-3) is not a lot bigger and I’d expect Dillingham to put on weight…as Fox has done since leaving Kentucky.

Dillingham is an amazing offensive talent…and given the way that Kentucky guards like Fox and Maxey have blown up it might be a mistake to pass on drafting him.

I’d still take Sarr at #1 and I believe Castle will improve his shooting and be a versatile and outstanding wing player. (Been checking out some film on Holland and, offensively, he might be as good or better than Castle).

If Dillingham is 6-2 barefoot, I'll eat my hat. My guess is he is a hair over 6 feet, and will be generously listed at 6-2 in shoes.

D'Aaron Fox is 6'-2 barefoot, but has a 6'-6.5" wingspan.
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Post#1395 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:18 pm

nate33 wrote:
DCZards wrote:I’m a little concerned about Dillingham’s size (176lbs). But De’Aaron Fox (who is the same height at 6-3) is not a lot bigger and I’d expect Dillingham to put on weight…as Fox has done since leaving Kentucky.

Dillingham is an amazing offensive talent…and given the way that Kentucky guards like Fox and Maxey have blown up it might be a mistake to pass on drafting him.

I’d still take Sarr at #1 and I believe Castle will improve his shooting and be a versatile and outstanding wing player. (Been checking out some film on Holland and, offensively, he might be as good or better than Castle).

If Dillingham is 6-2 barefoot, I'll eat my hat. My guess is he is a hair over 6 feet, and will be generously listed at 6-2 in shoes.

D'Aaron Fox is 6'-2 barefoot, but has a 6'-6.5" wingspan.



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Post#1396 » by NatP4 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:36 pm

doclinkin wrote:Welp.

I think you can knock Risacher down the top of the draft boards. He played decent in the first game of Tuesdays Eurocup final. 11 pts, 4 boards in the loss. Then came up way short in the rematch for only 2 pts. letting Paris win the cup.

Here's the good and bad of his game Tuesday night. Shot it on target and short most of the night. But decent defense.



Has to be a loss of confidence. In the last 3 months, he's made 15 of 65 3PA (23%) 21-34 from FTA (61%) and has 27 turnovers to 12 assists.

His overall numbers are still solid: 16.4 points 5.2 rebounds 1.5 assists 1.4 steals 0.6 blocks 2.4 turnovers 57.5% TS in 52 games (1200 minutes) against some quality competition. especially the euro-2 games.
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Post#1397 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:43 pm

NatP4 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:Welp.

I think you can knock Risacher down the top of the draft boards. He played decent in the first game of Tuesdays Eurocup final. 11 pts, 4 boards in the loss. Then came up way short in the rematch for only 2 pts. letting Paris win the cup.

Here's the good and bad of his game Tuesday night. Shot it on target and short most of the night. But decent defense.



Has to be a loss of confidence. In the last 3 months, he's made 15 of 65 3PA (23%) 21-34 from FTA (61%) and has 27 turnovers to 12 assists.

His overall numbers are still solid: 16.4 points 5.2 rebounds 1.5 assists 1.4 steals 0.6 blocks 2.4 turnovers 57.5% TS in 52 games (1200 minutes) against some quality competition. especially the euro-2 games.


Confidence issues don't bode well for success in the NBA. Probably not ready if this is the case. A weak draft gets weaker... :roll:

Wow! Just checked NBA Draft Room, Risacher dropped from #1 to 6. :o
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Post#1398 » by NatP4 » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:43 pm

Dillingham would be my least favorite outcome of all the top group. He just doesn't look all that athletic, doesn't get all the way to the rim and bend the defense. Going to be more of a jumpshooter than slasher/driver. Liability on defense, not just below average. Just looks and plays small, more of a Lou Williams/Bones Hyland type I think.
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Post#1399 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:49 pm

NatP4 wrote:Dillingham would be my least favorite outcome of all the top group. He just doesn't look all that athletic, doesn't get all the way to the rim and bend the defense. Going to be more of a jumpshooter than slasher/driver. Liability on defense, not just below average. Just looks and plays small, more of a Lou Williams/Bones Hyland type I think.



Agree I don't see Dillingham as a good fit for us.
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Post#1400 » by NatP4 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:50 pm

Cooper Flagg has one of the strangest looking jump shots I have seen.

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