Resurrected unified MUSIC thread.

[AFM]

Glad you enjoyed brutha...they certainly deserve more than the 6k followers they have on YT....

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[dobrojim]

decided yesterday to go see Nickel Creek at Wolf Trap last night so I waited until I got
there to walk up and buy a ticket. Was very pleasantly surprised to be offered a ticket
in the second row. Are you effing kidding me? Been to a lot of shows at the Filene Center
going back more than 30 years but that was about the best seat I ever had. The whole band,
3 people plus the bassist, was very good but Chris Thile is simply one of the best musicians
on the planet. He is a tremendous mandolin player, one of the best in the world and he also
possesses a simply beautiful clear pure singing voice. By the way, the band has been playing
together off and on since they were young teenagers. The guitar player and fiddler and
siblings (Sean and Sarah Watkins).

This song became a family fav when my kids were growing up. Yes, parents and their
children can actually agree on music.

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All 3 members are excellent singers but Thile sings lead on this one which they played last night.

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Great show.

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[dobrojim]

Nice
A guy playing a (round neck) dobro.

[pancakes3]

Nice
A guy playing a (round neck) dobro.

Haha, i was just going to come in and ask Dobro's opinion on the guy's playing.

[dobrojim]

Nice
A guy playing a (round neck) dobro.

Haha, i was just going to come in and ask Dobro's opinion on the guy's playing.

Interesting.

I do have one round neck dobro which I play in a similar fashion to this guy, ie without a slide
as if I was playing any other acoustic guitar.

He's pretty solid but he's staying in a fairly modest comfort zone, which is fair when
you're singing at the same time. There is nothing wrong with that. For those who have
never attempted it, playing and singing simultaneously is not as easy as it might seem,
especially if you're trying to riff between lines of the song. He sings with passion which
is a great first step. I liked him.

I was going to post a link to my last open mic performance.
It was blocked for some reason I don't understand.
I did a couple songs solo playing my round neck.
Then I backed up a friend playing square neck.

In case you don't understand the distinction, a round
neck is played like a regular guitar with or without a slide.
The string action is low on a round neck, like a regular guitar.

A square neck is played lap style with a slide.
The body (top) of the guitar is pointed upwards and
the string action is much higher. You do NOT
push the strings down to the neck. The frets on
the neck are visual landmarks to guide you in your
intonation. A square neck has a very vocal quality to
it in a way that is analogous to a violin. You are not
restricted to the discreet notes like a piano or keyboard
but have access to the full range of tones between the
normal scale tones. This can be used to great effect or
for beginners or folks that don't have a good sense of pitch,
can sound awful. In the song She's Better than Me (23 minutes in),
they zoom in one my playing you can see exactly what I was
talking about above.

Here is a youtube of me playing with my main guy Rick Landers
at the Washington Folk Fest a few months ago. I'm completely
oblivious to my mouth doing what it's doing while I'm playing.
SMH at that.

In this video the dobro I play is in open G tuning which means
if I simply strum across the string I will play a G chord although
in this video I'm using a capo to raise the G tuning to what has
become B flat for Working Overtime.

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This is Jerry Douglas playing with Tommy Emmanuel. Douglas is widely
regarded as the preeminent dobro player in the world. He's won a eff-ton
of grammies and played with a very impressive list of performers,
many of who's names you would absolutely recognize. From his career
of many decades as a session player in Nashville, he has an uncanny
understanding of how to add to a song, sometimes with an absolute
minimum of notes.

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Here Jerry is playing with Derek Trucks. In this vid you can see the difference
between sq neck and round neck. They have different tones due to the
way the strings are connected to the cone inside the body of the guitar.

FWIW, Jerry is a super nice down to earth guy and widely considered
one of the finest musicians in the world (by Alison Krauss for one).

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[dobrojim]

I agree 100% with the brother hosting this video.
TTB evokes a deep emotional response for me.

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[bsilver]

Recently saw “Searching for Sugar Man”, which won Academy Award for best documentary in 2013. It’s about Rodriguez, an American performer, mostly unknown in the US, but was a huge star in South Africa in the 1970s. His music is great, sort of working class Bob Dylan. Interesting that he was a Mexican immigrant living Detroit.

[dobrojim]

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Fascinating to me how this classical musician responded to the Dead.
Her response is typical of many people who have heard of this band,
The Grateful Dead, and make assumptions about what a band with a
name like that might sound before they ever actually listen to them.

She digs Garcia's guitar break and what's not to like? She also remarks
on the gentle smoothness of the song.

FWIW, my fav version comes from this famous show at Englishtown Raceway,
which not coincidentally was the 1st Dead show I ever attended. Warning-
this version is like 13 minutes long.

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[dobrojim]

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same guy as commented/review/reacted to the Tedeschi Trucks vid above
listens to his first Dead song.

Funny. He was surprised (not knowing anything about the Dead) to hear them
settle into such a great groove. Now he knows, that is a hallmark characteristic
of the Dead.

[doclinkin]

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same guy as commented/review/reacted to the Tedeschi Trucks vid above
listens to his first Dead song.

Funny. He was surprised (not knowing anything about the Dead) to hear them
settle into such a great groove. Now he knows, that is a hallmark characteristic
of the Dead.

Yeah its been fun watching him discover Led Zeppelin. Someone exposed him to Tool and he was blown away, only to discover it was a cover of a Zeppelin song. Each new song in order sent him to a new level to the point where he was speechless after I think Stairway to Heaven. It's worn out now for me to hear it, but watching him listen to it fresh put me right back in the moment I first heard it, mind blown, felt like my soul had changed somehow.

That sent me down a rabbithole of reaction videos. Oddly satisfying watching multiple people break down into tears in reaction to the guitar solo in Comfortably Numb.

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From the poetry/shenanigans thread:

...I only got into metal because I'm a jazz pianist and thrash metal is the closest thing to it IMO...

Whoa... just noticed this, AFM.

I'm a lifelong jazz fan & aficionado. I don't see how thrash metal is close to jazz -- but so what....

When I say "lifelong," here's what I mean: I bought Miles Davis a drink at the Sutherland Lounge in Chicago when I was 15. Dizzy Gillespie -- a grin on his face -- tried to steal two drinks from me as I was carrying them back from the refreshment bar at a party for the playboy jazz festival (I think...) in 1958 when I was 16.

In the early 1970s when I was down & out while living in Paris, the great soprano saxophonist Steve Lacy put me up for a couple of months in his loft on the rue des Feuillantines.

If you name a jazz musician of any note who played in the '50s & '60s, it's extremely likely that I heard him live, usually more than once. The exception was Bird, who died exactly 6 months before I turned 13 (about a year before I started figuring out how to get into clubs...).

Being a jazz pianist, tell me if you know this guy:

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(one of the most under-appreciated players...)

[AFM]

From the poetry/shenanigans thread:

...I only got into metal because I'm a jazz pianist and thrash metal is the closest thing to it IMO...

Whoa... just noticed this, AFM.

I'm a lifelong jazz fan & aficionado. I don't see how thrash metal is close to jazz -- but so what....

When I say "lifelong," here's what I mean: I bought Miles Davis a drink at the Sutherland Lounge in Chicago when I was 15. Dizzy Gillespie -- a grin on his face -- tried to steal two drinks from me as I was carrying them back from the refreshment bar at a party for the playboy jazz festival (I think...) in 1958 when I was 16.

In the early 1970s when I was down & out while living in Paris, the great soprano saxophonist Steve Lacy put me up for a couple of months in his loft on the rue des Feuillantines.

If you name a jazz musician of any note who played in the '50s & '60s, it's extremely likely that I heard him live, usually more than once. The exception was Bird, who died exactly 6 months before I turned 13 (about a year before I started figuring out how to get into clubs...).

Being a jazz pianist, tell me if you know this guy:

Watch on YouTube

;t=746s
(one of the most under-appreciated players...)

I responded to the rest of your post in the other thread, but...

Sure, on the surface level they aren't anything alike, right? And, if you aren't a longtime listener of thrash, I wouldn't expect you to get it, yet... but you're a smart & cultured guy so...

Thrash like jazz has a lot in common, even though it may sound different--the virtuosity of the solos and the technical ability--the background chords, in jazz we call it comping, in thrash we just call it a riff, in reality its not so different.
Just like jazz, if you show someone some free jazz and they've never listened to jazz at all before they wont "get it". Same with metal. Show someone Megadeth's deep cuts and they'll say "this is just noise". In reality Megadeth's best guitarists are actually talented beyond belief and have had long careers outside of metal (look up Chris Poland). Their current lead guitarist is brazilian and has a long history of playing all types of genre. Check this song out, which was his introduction to the band:

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Here's another, one of my favorite tracks ever. This song was written about a ghost that Dave was certain lived in his attic.

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The solo at 2:18 is Marty, one of the greatest guitarists ever. And then Dave comes in at 2:56. This IMO is the greatest metal lineup ever. Anyway its not hard to hear how the background riffs are like comping and the solos are like the piano solo. At least to my ears. Not expecting you to like it, at least not yet. Smoke some weed and listen to it a hundred times, then get back to me.

[AFM]

Sorry but the way Dave comes in at 2:56 is one the hardest things I've heard in my life. Its like having someone inject liquid testosterone right into your ass cheeks

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AFM -- glad to see the music post above, wch I'll get into tomorrow (& will respond...).

[payitforward]

Truly wonderful -- not to be missed:

https://www.amazon.com/Wayne-Shorter-Zero-Gravity/dp/B0BX3YRTDX

[AFM]

You know Elton John made James cry when he called this "one of the greatest songs ever written". It's not even my favorite Metallica song, but that statement isn't that crazy-- really an amazing piece of songwriting. Shows their versatility.

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But if we're talking about the best metal songs ever written...personal biases aside, I'd probably nominate One.

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As close to perfect as one can get.

[AFM]

"He's a product of your profession, not mine." That's one of the hardest things I've ever heard in my life.

[montestewart]

Sorry but the way Dave comes in at 2:56 is one the hardest things I've heard in my life. Its like having someone inject liquid testosterone right into your ass cheeks

HOF! Somebody second

[montestewart]

"He's a product of your profession, not mine." That's one of the hardest things I've ever heard in my life.

I had this long post about intersections of metal and jazz all perfectly composed in my head when I was driving home. Now I’m home and out of time and can’t remember it. Anyway, cool conversation you and pif have going here. I’ll try to catch up with all these tracks. Thanks!