Kyrie Irving Could Be Out Until January

[olive_triangurl]

Wade is a more clutch playoff performer than anyone on the Cavs/Bulls, so I wouldn't be surprised if Miami makes it to the Finals.
Bosh is also extremely clutch.

[DJ3thenew23]

how are the bulls better than the heat

PG Derrick , Kirk , and Brooks > Dragic , chalmers , TJ -but only if rose is healthy
SG Butler, Snell, Moore = Wade, Green , Richardson -If wade played 82 I will give the edge to heat, but we all know that's not happening
SF Mike dunleavy , McDermott < Deng , winslow , Ennis
PF Paul G , Gibson , Mirotic < Bosh , Macroberts , Haslem -Bosh would own Paul
C Noah , Bairstow << Whiteside , Stoudmire , Anderson - not even close

edge to
PG BULLS
SG EVEN
SF HEAT
PF HEAT
C HEAT

PF Bulls def have the advantage. They have Pau who had a career year last year, Gibson who could start on some teams, and Mirotic who has talent. C is eh, I'm still not sold on Whiteside, Amare you never what you'll get, and Birdman is good but not anything special.

PG Bulls
SG Even
SF Heat
PF Bulls
C Heat/Even (We'll see which way it goes later in the season)

If the new Bulls Coach move Mirotic to the 3 then I would say the Bulls has the advantage at SF. Wade isn't play 82 games, if he plays more than 65 games this season then maybe you can give the Heat the edge at SG but as for right now Bulls has the advantage yet again.

I agree with you on the SG part, if Wade plays more games and Gerald Green plays well then they would have the advantage, but right now the Bulls look better. For SF I don't think there is any way the Bulls would win. Deng was an all-star, if he's healthy he can get back to that point especially since he won't have to play so many minutes. Winslow is a lottery pick, which we all know is hit or miss, but he showed promise in the summer league (again, doesn't reflect the real NBA game, but it's something). And Ennis was good when they called on him last year. As much as I like McDermott, I have a hard time believing him and Dunleavy would be better than Miami's SF depth, even with Mirotic.

[MitchB3]

PF Bulls def have the advantage. They have Pau who had a career year last year, Gibson who could start on some teams, and Mirotic who has talent. C is eh, I'm still not sold on Whiteside, Amare you never what you'll get, and Birdman is good but not anything special.

PG Bulls
SG Even
SF Heat
PF Bulls
C Heat/Even (We'll see which way it goes later in the season)

If the new Bulls Coach move Mirotic to the 3 then I would say the Bulls has the advantage at SF. Wade isn't play 82 games, if he plays more than 65 games this season then maybe you can give the Heat the edge at SG but as for right now Bulls has the advantage yet again.

I agree with you on the SG part, if Wade plays more games and Gerald Green plays well then they would have the advantage, but right now the Bulls look better. For SF I don't think there is any way the Bulls would win. Deng was an all-star, if he's healthy he can get back to that point especially since he won't have to play so many minutes. Winslow is a lottery pick, which we all know is hit or miss, but he showed promise in the summer league (again, doesn't reflect the real NBA game, but it's something). And Ennis was good when they called on him last year. As much as I like McDermott, I have a hard time believing him and Dunleavy would be better than Miami's SF depth, even with Mirotic.

In all honesty I did forget that Deng was on the Heat, so yeah you are right, but at the same Deng would have to guard Butler, (I would love to see that Deng vs Butler since Deng was like a mentor too Butler) at the end of the day, I believe the Heat can get it done because they have the right coach, their players have more chemistry and not to mention Dunleavy never shows up when he's suppose too, so the Heat can actually be a probably for the Cavs.

[DJ3thenew23]

If the new Bulls Coach move Mirotic to the 3 then I would say the Bulls has the advantage at SF. Wade isn't play 82 games, if he plays more than 65 games this season then maybe you can give the Heat the edge at SG but as for right now Bulls has the advantage yet again.

I agree with you on the SG part, if Wade plays more games and Gerald Green plays well then they would have the advantage, but right now the Bulls look better. For SF I don't think there is any way the Bulls would win. Deng was an all-star, if he's healthy he can get back to that point especially since he won't have to play so many minutes. Winslow is a lottery pick, which we all know is hit or miss, but he showed promise in the summer league (again, doesn't reflect the real NBA game, but it's something). And Ennis was good when they called on him last year. As much as I like McDermott, I have a hard time believing him and Dunleavy would be better than Miami's SF depth, even with Mirotic.

In all honesty I did forget that Deng was on the Heat, so yeah you are right, but at the same Deng would have to guard Butler, (I would love to see that Deng vs Butler since Deng was like a mentor too Butler) at the end of the day, I believe the Heat can get it done because they have the right coach, their players have more chemistry and not to mention Dunleavy never shows up when he's suppose too, so the Heat can actually be a probably for the Cavs.

They could be a problem in the playoffs, sure. But they won't be the #1 seed.

[olive_triangurl]

Whiteside is a better C than Mozgov.
Bosh is a better PF than Love.
Wade is a better SG than Smith.
Dragic is a better PG than Irving.
Miami may win more games than Cleveland.

[2thehoopand1]

Damn, this guy is turning to into D Rose.

What a huge overstatement

For now it is. In a season or two it could be right on the money.

[2thehoopand1]

The Cavaliers still have Kevin Love who's capable of averaging 20 ppg, and 10 rpg. and Mo Williams is still a very good point guard. He scored 52 points last year.

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

[Pickled Prunes]

The Cavaliers still have Kevin Love who's capable of averaging 20 ppg, and 10 rpg. and Mo Williams is still a very good point guard. He scored 52 points last year.

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

[JJpauve]

The Cavaliers still have Kevin Love who's capable of averaging 20 ppg, and 10 rpg. and Mo Williams is still a very good point guard. He scored 52 points last year.

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

Mo Williams is a good backup in my opinion but giving value to a single game is ridiculous. Last time I checked finals teams play around 100 games/season. Mo is for quick creating offense of the bench for 12-14min + 4min together with the starting PG in a two PG system. Bosh's numbers were low but he is a defense first player and arguably a top 10 overall defensive PF/C in the game (combining rim protection with team defense and PnR. He could hang w/ most forwards while Kevin Love can't hang with most snails.

Also to everyone else arguing about the lineup going position by position, don't. If we did that Hawks last year would have been 5th or 6th in the east. You need to consider the skill of the coach and the fit of players in both offensive and defensive schemes.

[2thehoopand1]

The Cavaliers still have Kevin Love who's capable of averaging 20 ppg, and 10 rpg. and Mo Williams is still a very good point guard. He scored 52 points last year.

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

If irving really is out till January Love will "return to form" for the beginning of the season. I don't think they have it figured out offensively or defensively when they all 3 stars are on the court at the same time.

[nba2k16]

The Cavaliers still have Kevin Love who's capable of averaging 20 ppg, and 10 rpg. and Mo Williams is still a very good point guard. He scored 52 points last year.

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

16PPG and 10RBG are scrub numbers?!? WHAT? HAHAHA

[Pickled Prunes]

Sure when love is the one and only option he's capable of 20 and 10.

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

16PPG and 10RBG are scrub numbers?!? WHAT? HAHAHA

Do I really need to explain sarcasm to you? You don't need to respond to my posts anymore. You are so concerned with trying to get a jab in that you don't take the time to try and understand what people are saying...

[nba2k16]

Sure, when the third option on a championship contending team, with a new coach and in a new system he only averaged 16.37 pts and 9.75 reb... essentially scrub numbers. In comparison, the last year James was in Miami, Bosh averaged 16.22 pts and 6.61 reb.

I am more skeptical about the Mo Williams comment. He was a great addition to their bench but the Cav's really don't want him starting games until January. The 52 pt game was completely random.

16PPG and 10RBG are scrub numbers?!? WHAT? HAHAHA

Do I really need to explain sarcasm to you? You don't need to respond to my posts anymore. You are so concerned with trying to get a jab in that you don't take the time to try and understand what people are saying...

Use green font next time that's what it's for

[Pickled Prunes]

16PPG and 10RBG are scrub numbers?!? WHAT? HAHAHA

Do I really need to explain sarcasm to you? You don't need to respond to my posts anymore. You are so concerned with trying to get a jab in that you don't take the time to try and understand what people are saying...

Use green font next time that's what it's for

Unbelievable!

[nba2k16]

Do I really need to explain sarcasm to you? You don't need to respond to my posts anymore. You are so concerned with trying to get a jab in that you don't take the time to try and understand what people are saying...

Use green font next time that's what it's for

Unbelievable!

Wrong use of the green font