Knicks Never Even Offered Minimum Deal To Derrick Rose

[RealGM Wiretap]

The New York Knicks never offered Derrick Rose even a contract at the veteran's minimum.

Rose signed with the Cleveland Cavaliers on a one-year, $2.1 million deal. Rose spent one season with the Knicks.

The Knicks drafted Frank Ntilikina in June as their point guard of the future.

“Did we miss something?,” Rose’s agent B.J. Armstrong asked The Post. “Is there something going [on] in New York we didn’t see? We all would agree they are on a different timeline than Derrick — a young team with great young talent there and trying to build something for the future. They’re not on the same timeline as players who are a little older and experienced.

“It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out Derrick’s best basketball is right now. The Knicks aren’t ready to compete at that level right now. It could be three, four years.”

Rose is coming off his fourth surgery after playing 64 games with the Knicks.

Via Marc Berman/New York Post

[Bobalob]

Hopefully this motivates D rose. I do believe that at least SOME of his fall-off as a player is due to him just not givin a damn about basketbal after those injuries. Imagine how he feels watching guys he was flat out better than now in their prime flourishing smh

[Hoopzilla]

Did you miss something... Yes the Pelicans game when he just disappeared. The young players cannot depend on him to be a role model and the team cannot depend on him to show up to games. Have fun with Lebron.

[br7knicks]

Best decision knicks have made so far

[The_Hater]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

[macNcheese3]

NY making a smart basketball decision for a change

[RememberLu]

How the mighty have fallen

he'll always have that MVP

[Scalabrine]

Should have gone to the Pelicans.

[JimmyJammer]

What a disgrace! It's ok to be injured, but when you are surrounded by nutcases whose incomes depend on you, you are doomed to fail. Derrick was once a promising young player who allegedly was supposed to be humble, but as I look at his circle, it is obvious there is something wrong there. Do everyone a favor, Derrick, just retire like Brandon Roy had to do. You do want to be able to walk to your son's graduation, don't you?

[dan-man]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

True or not, he's proven too fragile and risky for a big contract and it seems like the SUPER HIGH off season expectations may have scared off other potential medium sized contracts. Time to fire your agent Rose.

[The_Hater]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

True or not, he's proven too fragile and risky for a big contract and it seems like the SUPER HIGH off season expectations may have scared off other potential medium sized contracts. Time to fire your agent Rose.

I think it's partly that and partly that other teams recognize Rose as a player with tons of negative skills who yet still views himself as a superstar player that teams would build an offense around. Iverson and Marbury played themselves out of the league rather quickly with this same attitude once their abilities began to fade.

There's minimal risk for the Cavs, Rose either figures out that he's no longer that type of player and makes some major changes or the Cavs just release him..

[Camping Fan]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

True or not, he's proven too fragile and risky for a big contract and it seems like the SUPER HIGH off season expectations may have scared off other potential medium sized contracts. Time to fire your agent Rose.

I think it's partly that and partly that other teams recognize Rose as a player with tons of negative skills who yet still views himself as a superstar player that teams would build an offense around. Iverson and Marbury played themselves out of the league rather quickly with this same attitude once their abilities began to fade.

There's minimal risk for the Cavs, Rose either figures out that he's no longer that type of player and makes some major changes or the Cavs just release him..

Personally - I think some one had too much to drink - Rose has had his best days with all of those surgeries. He is finished and past his peak which is a shame because if not for the surgeries - he would have been great. But his agent is trying to sell a product or service - so I think he will put the best spin possible

[Clyde Frazier]

Uh... good.

[Clyde Frazier]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

Nah, he meant he isn't going to get any better than he is right now. So being part of a rebuild didn't make sense.

[dan-man]

Derrick's best basketball is right now? Really BJ? Is that why the best contract you secured was a one year deal at the minimum? Is that how that works?

True or not, he's proven too fragile and risky for a big contract and it seems like the SUPER HIGH off season expectations may have scared off other potential medium sized contracts. Time to fire your agent Rose.

I think it's partly that and partly that other teams recognize Rose as a player with tons of negative skills who yet still views himself as a superstar player that teams would build an offense around. Iverson and Marbury played themselves out of the league rather quickly with this same attitude once their abilities began to fade.

There's minimal risk for the Cavs, Rose either figures out that he's no longer that type of player and makes some major changes or the Cavs just release him..

Nobody can argue that the risk is minimal and value is great for Cavs. I thought that Rose had adjusted his expectations on being the centerpiece of a team but I think his Agent BJ was doing the standard leaking of overly ambitious contract expectations which showed us how that can shoot you in the foot. It'll be interesting to see where this season takes him. Either China or a 3 year 7 million dollar deal somewhere if he projects the right attitude. And then you see 40 something guys like Vince Carter nabbing 8 mil per season.

[dan-man]

True or not, he's proven too fragile and risky for a big contract and it seems like the SUPER HIGH off season expectations may have scared off other potential medium sized contracts. Time to fire your agent Rose.

I think it's partly that and partly that other teams recognize Rose as a player with tons of negative skills who yet still views himself as a superstar player that teams would build an offense around. Iverson and Marbury played themselves out of the league rather quickly with this same attitude once their abilities began to fade.

There's minimal risk for the Cavs, Rose either figures out that he's no longer that type of player and makes some major changes or the Cavs just release him..

Personally - I think some one had too much to drink - Rose has had his best days with all of those surgeries. He is finished and past his peak which is a shame because if not for the surgeries - he would have been great. But his agent is trying to sell a product or service - so I think he will put the best spin possible

Yup. And I think this is a text book case of what can happen to your client when you leak the ludicrous expectations.

[Dr Huge Pecs]

he's a back up now with shredded knees... he'll bounce around then flame out... dude is a footnote in nba history. wouldn't offer hima cup of coffee let alone a minimum contract.

bye bye d rose, find some idiot team that wants iso ball from their point all game.

[Hoopzilla]

I think it's partly that and partly that other teams recognize Rose as a player with tons of negative skills who yet still views himself as a superstar player that teams would build an offense around. Iverson and Marbury played themselves out of the league rather quickly with this same attitude once their abilities began to fade.

There's minimal risk for the Cavs, Rose either figures out that he's no longer that type of player and makes some major changes or the Cavs just release him..

Personally - I think some one had too much to drink - Rose has had his best days with all of those surgeries. He is finished and past his peak which is a shame because if not for the surgeries - he would have been great. But his agent is trying to sell a product or service - so I think he will put the best spin possible

Yup. And I think this is a text book case of what can happen to your client when you leak the ludicrous expectations.

D Rose was full of ludicrous expectations publicly up until the middle of last season, I imagine BJ was working under the instructions of his client and that seems very likely based on D Rose's inflated sense of self and his worth.

[The_Hater]

Personally - I think some one had too much to drink - Rose has had his best days with all of those surgeries. He is finished and past his peak which is a shame because if not for the surgeries - he would have been great. But his agent is trying to sell a product or service - so I think he will put the best spin possible

Yup. And I think this is a text book case of what can happen to your client when you leak the ludicrous expectations.

D Rose was full of ludicrous expectations publicly up until the middle of last season, I imagine BJ was working under the instructions of his client and that seems very likely based on D Rose's inflated sense of self and his worth.

For sure. It's not like it was BJ calling the Knicks a superteam last October.

[Camping Fan]

Yup. And I think this is a text book case of what can happen to your client when you leak the ludicrous expectations.

D Rose was full of ludicrous expectations publicly up until the middle of last season, I imagine BJ was working under the instructions of his client and that seems very likely based on D Rose's inflated sense of self and his worth.

For sure. It's not like it was BJ calling the Knicks a superteam last October.

Well at least they fired Phil Jackson - That was a strong step in the right direction. Hired Fisher to be head coach when Fisher never coached a single game and then fired him to make it look like Fisher was to blame. Resigned Carmello when everyone knows that he never liked Carmello and should have been going after draft picks. I'm sure some one else can find other things that I missed - what a disaster of a gm